In a comedy it's funny due to it's ridiculousness, but this is the actual situation with ss and it's far from funny.
So what if they invested it in Trump companies? We would have nothing. You do not risk it. Any investment would be in government bonds.Ok so how about instead of running it like a ponzi scheme the Govt actually invests it for you after confiscating it?
Disability could be an entirely different fund. Of course people would actually have to be disabled in that case unlike now where fraud is rampant.
Then at least you could eat wet cat food.
Who in the fuck is talking about Trump? Is everything about your Daddy now?So what if they invested it in Trump companies? We would have nothing. You do not risk it. Any investment would be in government bonds.
Show your work. There are disabled who are unable to work. Is there some cheating? Sure, and they make good TV. But people seize on the rare cheaters to justify not helping anyone, ever. Disability is not a separate fund. That is a fact. Your speculations are irrelevant.
Let me understand this, because it isn't making much sense.
SS is a forced retirement plan that is automatically deducted from your paycheck. Eventually, they have to start paying you back.
The Ponzi scheme is not the SS system, but what they do with your money after forcefully extracting it from you. They hand you an IOU, one you will be forced to pay interest on, and spend the money to cover deficit spending. The worst part of this scheme is that it is not "security" by any stretch of the imagination. You can't live on it. It didn't provide interest for all those years it was being taken and you can leave it to your survivors like a real investment.
SS is not an entitlement. It is paid for by working taxpayers.
His icon is most apt for a MAGA troll ..... a noisy little bird that's full of shit.That's interesting, you haven't given the person transportation to work, health insurance, utilities like heat and electricity, clothing. Then you forgot about holidays where the person wouldn't get paid to work unless they were in a service industry of some sort.
Auto insurance - $1000
Gas for car - $600
Electricity - $700
Gas for heating home - $1000
Health insurance - $3,600
clothing - $400
Not if they want to actually get to work and have heat and light and electricity to charge their phone and run their internet.
So you admit that your claim is bullshit when you say they can retire with a million dollars.
As we can see, you have not provided valid numbers at all since you forgot much of what a person has to spend money on to live.
No. You didn't do anything other than show us that you are so stupid you have never been able to live on your own since you have not clue as to what a normal person has to pay for to live.
Your revisionism and myopic meanderings border line of full psychotic fantasy.1. Your return on your "contribution" is -4%. That's NEGATIVE 4%.
2. If you die unexpectedly, your "contribution" is absorbed into the system, your family sees $0.00.
3. If you were to actually invest that same money into an IRA, most people would retire millionaires, and if they died unexpectedly,
their family would have access to that wealth.
4. The Social Security tax is just another failed attempt at Collectivism.
5. Your "contribution" is not properly invested by the Government. It is literally used to pay the SS checque to retired people now.
6. Social Security should be phased out, allowing people to invest those earnings tax-free into a retirement portfolio, so they can
actually retire in comfort. A new system should be implemented to help people that are actually destitute.
7. Look at your pay stub. Actually look at it. Understand that you are being robbed. That "contribution" isn't really a contribution.
It's not voluntary. It is forced upon you. It is a tax. Stop believing the lie.
Are you accusing GOP politicians of crimes?And this is different than a ponzi scheme in what significant ways?
The fuck is wrong with your brain? I will say that when I mean that.Are you accusing GOP politicians of crimes?
You are completely fucking clueless. You dipshits have lost everything now but your arrogance. Not a good look.Your revisionism and myopic meanderings border line of full psychotic fantasy.
The Apartheid Punk's babblings have LONG been debunked:
Online Posts Misconstrue Data on Social Security Numbers
www.factcheck.org/2025/02/online-posts-misconstrue-data-on-social-security-numbers/
“Social Security is the biggest Ponzi scheme of all time.”
www.politifact.com/factchecks/2025/mar/19/elon-musk/is-social-security-a-ponzi-scheme-fact-checking-el/
It seems neither you or the Apartheid Punk understand how the Social Security system works. Did you know that by IRS rules and law, if Social Security is your only source of income, you don't pay taxes? That's because for many recipients their SocSec does NOT meet the COLA. Or that by merely raising the "cap" you dump serious bucks into the SocSec fund, keeping it solvent for decades to come?
I know it's a LOT for you to stop parroting your myopic mumblings and actually THINK using ALL FACTS available but give a try. It won't kill you.
Are you accusing GOP politicians of crimes?
This dipshit has been in a decaying orbit of stupidity since his first post in this thread.When you have no counter argument it's better to not reply than to post something as utterly stupid as the above.
This dipshit has been in a decaying orbit of stupidity since his first post in this thread.
SHOW ME THE NUMBERS!His reply boiled down to NUHN UHN. It is pathetic.
I am not and your charge has no logic or sense to it. I care about others. Trump and his minions are attacking SS. Did you not know that?Who in the fuck is talking about Trump? Is everything about your Daddy now?
I bet you're one of those phony disabled SSDI parasites aren't you?
That's a bold faced lie. They are attacking fraud. If that makes you nervous so be it.I am not and your charge has no logic or sense to it. I care about others. Trump and his minions are attacking SS. Did you not know that?
Stop blaming me for your own issues. You'll never learn that way.I see you clearly don't know the difference between a question and a statement.
This person has two legs to walk on. Walking doesn't cost anything. Bus fare is another option for this person and it is fairly cheap ($780/yr in my neck of the woods). Add $780 onto his yearly expenses if you wish, otherwise this person lives in an apartment that is close enough to where he works so that he can walk to and from work each day.That's interesting, you haven't given the person transportation to work,
This person gets health insurance through his employer; that expense is taken out of his paycheck pre-tax. I've already included that expense in my calculation.health insurance,
This person lives in an apartment and utilities are included in the rent rate. I've already included that expense in my calculation.utilities like heat and electricity,
Donations don't cost anything.clothing.
This person gets paid for the typical holidays that private-sector workers get paid for (New Years, Memorial, Independence, Thanksgiving, Christmas, etc) 2,080 hours/year is a standard guesstimate for total hours worked per year (40hrs per week, 52 weeks per year). This person might also have overtime opportunities and work overtime for extra money.Then you forgot about holidays where the person wouldn't get paid to work unless they were in a service industry of some sort.
Why are you assuming that this person owns a car? Maybe he walks to work each day. Maybe he rides the bus each day. Maybe he rides bike around. Auto insurance isn't a part of this person's expenses.Auto insurance - $1000
See above. Gasoline isn't a part of this person's expenses.Gas for car - $600
Included in this person's rent rate.Electricity - $700
Included in this person's rent rate.Gas for heating home - $1000
This person has health insurance through his employer and that rate is taken out of his paycheck pre-tax. Already accounted for. See above.Health insurance - $3,600
Clothing does NOT have to cost $400/year. Not even close. See above.clothing - $400
This is all included in my calculation. See above. See my prior post. The math is there, dude.Not if they want to actually get to work and have heat and light and electricity to charge their phone and run their internet.
I'm "admitting" that YOUR claim that they "can't" retire a millionaire is bullshit. See above. See prior post. See calculations.So you admit that your claim is bullshit when you say they can retire with a million dollars.
I forgot nothing. See above. All necessities are included (and I was even quite generous with phone/internet).As we can see, you have not provided valid numbers at all since you forgot much of what a person has to spend money on to live.
You've done nothing other than show us that you have absolutely no clue how to read, comprehend, perform basic math calculations, or even how to "pinch a penny".No. You didn't do anything other than show us that you are so stupid you have never been able to live on your own since you have not clue as to what a normal person has to pay for to live.
Sybil is looking down on other people in less fortunate situations than himself.Sybil thinks everyone lives in a tent in the park like himself and walks to work.
So you do not know what they are doing. That already showed. Trump aims to kill SS. They said they were going to stop checks as soon as next month. Then the blowback made them change. You are so proudly wrong. https://www.americanprogress.org/article/trumps-plan-defund-social-security/That's a bold faced lie. They are attacking fraud. If that makes you nervous so be it.
Sybil is looking down on other people in less fortunate situations than himself.