Socialist Is A Synonym For Communist/Socialist

[Flanders]

Socialist/Communist is accurate but not a stem-winder phrase that speech writers dream about; so President Trump said “AMERICA WILL NEVER BE A SOCIALIST COUNTRY.”

Trump could have, and should have, said “AMERICA WILL NEVER BE A COMMUNIST COUNTRY.”

Trump saying “Socialist” sounded good but it was a mistake because the public separates Socialism from Communism when there is only one difference between the two. Early Socialist planners planted the misconception in the late 19[SUP]th[/SUP] century when they set out to acquire political power incrementally, while Communists preferred violent revolution.

The intelligentsia knew the public would accept the word SOCIALISM, but never COMMUNISM because of the Soviet Union’s documented brutality; so the press and the teachers took the misconception to new heights in the 1930s when they laid down their most efficient lie to date —— Communism is good because Fascism is so bad. (Socialism is good because Fascism is so bad)

Finally, imagine what Trump would have done to the Democrat Party had he said COMMUNIST! This cartoon defines the debate Democrats will kill to avoid:

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[Evmetro]

Good post. Socialist, communist, progressive, Democrat, lefty, and commie all mean the same thing these days. I either call them lefties or commies, but they all want free shit and they are all parasites. Lefty politicians like to use various identifiers to try making their agenda sound better, but they all mean the same thing to their commie base who are going to vote for whatever commie is going to get them the most free shit.

 

[CFM]

Socialist is a synonym for entitlement minded freeloader.

 

[Jade Dragon]

You don't even know what socialism is? We already have some in America, just not with our healthcare. That's the big one most if not all civilized countries have figured out. So why is America the best, when it sucks at so many things?

 

[Cypress]

@ post 1
I doubt anyone under the age of 40 even remembers the cold war, and anyone at this point who is still indulging in 1950s-era archaic and outdated cold war lexicon is really showing their age. What are you, like eighty seven years old??

As an antidote to your historical ignorance, I will give you one history lesson for free: the Bolsheviks, and the totalitarian Leninist state they established were among history biggest mass murderers and oppressors of Russian liberals and Russian democratic socialists - who were opposed to the idea of a totalitarian Leninist state, and were keen to establish a federal democratic socialist republic or a constitutional monarchy.

 

[Flanders]

You don't even know what socialism is? We already have some in America, just not with our healthcare. That's the big one most if not all civilized countries have figured out. So why is America the best, when it sucks at so many things?

@ post 1
I doubt anyone under the age of 40 even remembers the cold war, and anyone at this point who is still indulging in 1950s-era archaic and outdated cold war lexicon is really showing their age. What are you, like eighty seven years old??

As an antidote to your historical ignorance, I will give you one history lesson for free: the Bolsheviks, and the totalitarian Leninist state they established were among history biggest mass murderers and oppressors of Russian liberals and Russian democratic socialists - who were opposed to the idea of a totalitarian Leninist state, and were keen to establish a federal democratic socialist republic or a constitutional monarchy.

To Jade Dragon & Cypress: I no longer have the patience to educate fools with countless indisputable facts. Research my messages if you want to learn about Communism/Socialism.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Socialist/Communist is accurate but not a stem-winder phrase that speech writers dream about; so President Trump said “AMERICA WILL NEVER BE A SOCIALIST COUNTRY.”

Trump could have, and should have, said “AMERICA WILL NEVER BE A COMMUNIST COUNTRY.”

Trump saying “Socialist” sounded good but it was a mistake because the public separates Socialism from Communism when there is only one difference between the two. Early Socialist planners planted the misconception in the late 19[SUP]th[/SUP] century when they set out to acquire political power incrementally, while Communists preferred violent revolution.

The intelligentsia knew the public would accept the word SOCIALISM, but never COMMUNISM because of the Soviet Union’s documented brutality; so the press and the teachers took the misconception to new heights in the 1930s when they laid down their most efficient lie to date —— Communism is good because Fascism is so bad. (Socialism is good because Fascism is so bad)

Finally, imagine what Trump would have done to the Democrat Party had he said COMMUNIST! This cartoon defines the debate Democrats will kill to avoid:

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Descriptors are descriptors...some people like and use them, some people don't.

I am no more a socialist or a communist...than I am an American conservative. But I would MUCH rather be mistaken for a socialist or a communist...than an American conservative.

And rather than "an American conservative who supports Donald Trump"...I WOULD EMBRACE SOCIALIST OR COMMUNIST. Being either of those things is a hell of a lot less insulting!

 

[Ross Dolan]

To Jade Dragon & Cypress: I no longer have the patience to educate fools with countless indisputable facts. Research my messages if you want to learn about Communism/Socialism.

That would be like researching the writings of Rush Limbaugh for information on how to stay slim!

 

[domer76]

Socialist/Communist is accurate but not a stem-winder phrase that speech writers dream about; so President Trump said “AMERICA WILL NEVER BE A SOCIALIST COUNTRY.”

Trump could have, and should have, said “AMERICA WILL NEVER BE A COMMUNIST COUNTRY.”

Trump saying “Socialist” sounded good but it was a mistake because the public separates Socialism from Communism when there is only one difference between the two. Early Socialist planners planted the misconception in the late 19[SUP]th[/SUP] century when they set out to acquire political power incrementally, while Communists preferred violent revolution.

The intelligentsia knew the public would accept the word SOCIALISM, but never COMMUNISM because of the Soviet Union’s documented brutality; so the press and the teachers took the misconception to new heights in the 1930s when they laid down their most efficient lie to date —— Communism is good because Fascism is so bad. (Socialism is good because Fascism is so bad)

Finally, imagine what Trump would have done to the Democrat Party had he said COMMUNIST! This cartoon defines the debate Democrats will kill to avoid:

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A communist behind every bush!

From the idiot who thinks civil rights legislation was intended to usurp the Constitution.

What a laughable fool.

 

[kudzu]

You don't even know what socialism is? We already have some in America, just not with our healthcare. That's the big one most if not all civilized countries have figured out. So why is America the best, when it sucks at so many things?

Hitler and the Nazis outlawed socialism, and executed socialists and communists en masse, even before they started rounding up Jews.

In 1933, the Dachau concentration camp held socialists and leftists exclusively. The Nazis arrested more than 11,000 Germans for "illegal socialist activity" in 1936.

In the 1930s and even beyond, nazism, in sharp contrast to socialism, was strongly supported by leading capitalists and right wingers in the US. Henry Ford, the leading industrialist and auto maker, was a great admirer of the nazis.

When Henry Ford announced that he might run for president in 1923, the little-known Hitler told the Chicago Tribune that he would like to send shock troops to Chicago to assist in the campaign. Later in 1938, the year of Kristallnacht, Ford was awarded the Grand Cross of the German Eagle, the highest civilian award given by the nazis.

Ford accepted it with pride, and Ford's company collaborated with the nazis as late as August 1942. General Motors, Standard Oil, ITT, and Chase National Bank (later Chase Manhattan Bank) among others also had major financial investments and collaborations with Nazi Germany.

J. Edgar Hoover, the first director of the FBI (and virulently anti-communist) was a great admirer of the nazis and was a pen pal of Heinrich Himmler (Reichsfuhrer of the Nazi SS, head of the Gestapo, and second most powerful leader of the Nazi party). Hoover sent Himmler a personal invitation to attend the 1937 World Police Conference in Montreal, and in 1938 welcomed one of Himmler's top aids to the U.S.

In June 1939, when the Nazi SS was conducting savage attacks against Jews, Gypsies, and homosexuals throughout Germany, Hoover personally autographed a photo of himself and sent it in response to a request, to KRIPO, the Nazi criminal police agency. He continued communication with Nazi police until December 4, 1941 (three days before Pearl Harbor).*

Nazism is a right wing ideology. It is violently racist, anti-socialist, and it targets the political left for extermination.

This is underscored by Albert Einstein's embrace of socialism throughout his life -- and in particular in his 1949 essay, Why Socialism? -- along with the fact that Einstein's name was included on a nazi death list with a bounty of $50,000 offered for his assassination.

If nazism really is socialism, why would Einstein have identified himself as a socialist a scant four years after WWII?

The current right wing conflation of nazism and the left is sleazy. A more informed population would view this as completely idiotic, but unfortunately this propaganda is becoming increasingly effective.

http://www.csun.edu/~vcmth00m/NazismSocialism.html

 

[StoneByStone]

Socialist/Communist is accurate but not a stem-winder phrase that speech writers dream about; so President Trump said “AMERICA WILL NEVER BE A SOCIALIST COUNTRY.”

America was founded as a white ethnostate. Do you think we were wrong to change? This isn't what the founders wanted.

 

[kudzu]

America was founded as a white ethnostate. Do you think we were wrong to change? This isn't what the founders wanted.

You aren't counting the African slaves, the Chinese who built the railroads.. Italians, Greeks, Spaniards and Jews who weren't considered white people.

 

[kudzu]

Socialist is a synonym for entitlement minded freeloader.

Einstein was a lifelong socialist.

 

[StoneByStone]

You aren't counting the African slaves, the Chinese who built the railroads.. Italians, Greeks, Spaniards and Jews who weren't considered white people.

Ethnostate doesn't mean only one race/ethnicity. It means the majority race/ethnicity gets certain privileges.

 

[kudzu]

Ethnostate doesn't mean only one race/ethnicity. It means the majority race/ethnicity gets certain privileges.

That's really not compatible with a Representative democracy that claims all men are created equal.


George Orwell wrote in 1944 :

"the word 'Fascism' is almost entirely meaningless ... almost any English person would accept 'bully' as a synonym for 'Fascist'".

 

[StoneByStone]

That's really not compatible with a Representative democracy that claims all men are created equal.

True, but despite that contradiction, America was still founded as a white ethnostate.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?111075-Question-for-Americans-who-care-about-what-the-founders-thought

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

I'm a communist

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

True, but despite that contradiction, America was still founded as a white ethnostate.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...cans-who-care-about-what-the-founders-thought

White and ethnostate as terms did not exist when america was founded

America is a cobbling together of feudal states merged together by a barely post feudal law they call "the constitution". It still has feudal anachronisms like the electoral college! Literally it's like the HRE dukes appointed their king, that's how the American elite appoint their president.

 

[Flanders]

Hitler and the Nazis outlawed socialism, and executed socialists and communists en masse, even before they started rounding up Jews.

To kudzu: If you insist on invoking Hitler compare him to Stalin in this context: The only difference between the two was Hitler killing Soviet Communists gave him one saving grace while Stalin had none. Then-Senator Harry Truman knew the truth of it:

If we see that Germany is winning we ought to help Russia, and if Russia is winning we ought to help Germany, and that way let them kill as many as possible. Harry Truman
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Henry Ford, the leading industrialist and auto maker, was a great admirer of the nazis.

When Henry Ford announced that he might run for president in 1923, the little-known Hitler told the Chicago Tribune that he would like to send shock troops to Chicago to assist in the campaign. Later in 1938, the year of Kristallnacht, Ford was awarded the Grand Cross of the German Eagle, the highest civilian award given by the nazis.

Ford accepted it with pride, and Ford's company collaborated with the nazis as late as August 1942. General Motors, Standard Oil, ITT, and Chase National Bank (later Chase Manhattan Bank) among others also had major financial investments and collaborations with Nazi Germany.

J. Edgar Hoover, the first director of the FBI (and virulently anti-communist) was a great admirer of the nazis and was a pen pal of Heinrich Himmler (Reichsfuhrer of the Nazi SS, head of the Gestapo, and second most powerful leader of the Nazi party). Hoover sent Himmler a personal invitation to attend the 1937 World Police Conference in Montreal, and in 1938 welcomed one of Himmler's top aids to the U.S.

In June 1939, when the Nazi SS was conducting savage attacks against Jews, Gypsies, and homosexuals throughout Germany, Hoover personally autographed a photo of himself and sent it in response to a request, to KRIPO, the Nazi criminal police agency. He continued communication with Nazi police until December 4, 1941 (three days before Pearl Harbor).*

To kudzu: The men you cite, and many others, saw Communism for what it is. The things they said and did was nothing more than “The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”

NOTE: J. Edgar Hoover was the only person that ever stood up to FDR:

Among those clamoring for internment of the Japanese was NOT FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover. He forwarded a memorandum to President Roosevelt informing him that 770 Japanese Americans should be questioned and or arrested. Not only did Hoover not recommend the internment of all Japanese Americans, but he thought it was both unnecessary and a gross violation of civil self-reliance.
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http://histclo.com/country/us/chron/940/ww2/intern/usi-jap.html

Do you think we were wrong to change?

To StoneByStone: The scum in government dictating change is always wrong.

That's really not compatible with a Representative democracy that claims all men are created equal.

To kudzu: Nor should it be compatible in a Representative Republic since God created all men equal. The Founders created individual liberties. Socialists/Communists created “ political equality” for the sole purpose of abolishing liberty.

Democrats determined to abolish an instrument of freedom ——the U.S. Constitution —— scream the loudest for equality. The thing that angers Democrats the most is Americans not dropping to their knees and thanking Socialists for “equality.” Eric hoffer saw the lie inherent in political equality long before liberal freaks made equality their first commandment.

Where freedom is real, equality is the passion of the masses. Where equality is real, freedom is the passion of a small minority. Eric Hoffer

They who clamor loudest for freedom are often the ones least likely to be happy in a free society. The frustrated, oppressed by their shortcomings, blame their failure on existing restraints. Actually, their innermost desire is for an end to the "free for all." They want to eliminate free competition and the ruthless testing to which the individual is continually subjected in a free society. Eric Hoffer

Unless a man has talents to make something of himself, freedom is an irksome burden. Of what avail is freedom to choose if the self be ineffectual? We join a mass movement to escape individual responsibility, or, in the words of the ardent young Nazi, "to be free from freedom." It was not sheer hypocrisy when the rank-and-file Nazis declared themselves not guilty of all the enormities they had committed. They considered themselves cheated and maligned when made to shoulder responsibility for obeying orders. Had they not joined the Nazi movement in order to be free from responsibility? Eric Hoffer

Those who see their lives as spoiled and wasted crave equality and fraternity more than they do freedom. If they clamor for freedom, it is but freedom to establish equality and uniformity. The passion for equality is partly a passion for anonymity: to be one thread of the many which make up a tunic; one thread not distinguishable from the others. No one can then point us out, measure us against others and expose our inferiority. Eric Hoffer
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https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Eric_Hoffer#The_True_Believer_.281951.29

 

[CFM]

Einstein was a lifelong socialist.

So?

Millions upon millions of freeloaders in this country rely on a system where, if it weren't for those that were successful using capitalism having THEIR money taken, the good for nothing freeloaders would starve. You seem to think giving someone something they didn't earn will motivate them to do better. They need to do without if they're not willing to provide for themselves. That problem would be solved one of two ways. They'd either learn they have to do or go away.