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Darth Omar

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Six months into the Covid-19 pandemic, the U.S. has now carried out two large-scale experiments in public health—first, in March and April, the lockdown of the economy to arrest the spread of the virus, and second, since mid-April, the reopening of the economy. The results are in. Counterintuitive though it may be, statistical analysis shows that locking down the economy didn’t contain the disease’s spread and reopening it didn’t unleash a second wave of infections.

Considering that lockdowns are economically costly and create well-documented long-term public-health consequences beyond Covid, imposing them appears to have been a large policy error. At the beginning, when little was known, officials acted in ways they thought prudent. But now evidence proves that lockdowns were an expensive treatment with serious side effects and no benefit to society.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-failed-experiment-of-covid-lockdowns-11599000890
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Scathing indictment of the lockdown strategy [backed by statistics] in the WSJ.

For months, some of us have been saying the social/health/economic costs of the type of lockdowns we saw the earlier in the year were not only entirely predictable—but they were being ignored by the medical bureaucracy.

Fauci called them ‘an inconvenience’.

This will be looked back on as the single most destructive policy ever instituted by the government.
 
Darth Omar said:
Six months into the Covid-19 pandemic, the U.S. has now carried out two large-scale experiments in public health—first, in March and April, the lockdown of the economy to arrest the spread of the virus, and second, since mid-April, the reopening of the economy. The results are in. Counterintuitive though it may be, statistical analysis shows that locking down the economy didn’t contain the disease’s spread and reopening it didn’t unleash a second wave of infections.

Considering that lockdowns are economically costly and create well-documented long-term public-health consequences beyond Covid, imposing them appears to have been a large policy error. At the beginning, when little was known, officials acted in ways they thought prudent. But now evidence proves that lockdowns were an expensive treatment with serious side effects and no benefit to society.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-failed-experiment-of-covid-lockdowns-11599000890

Scathing indictment of the lockdown strategy [backed by statistics] in the WSJ.

For months, some of us have been saying the social/health/economic costs of the type of lockdowns we saw the earlier in the year were not only entirely predictable—but they were being ignored by the medical bureaucracy.

Fauci called them ‘an inconvenience’.

This will be looked back on as the single most destructive policy ever instituted by the government.
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Correct again.
 
If we had a true leader it would has been better controlled with testing and tracing. It just proves how much Trump sucks. Our economy will continue to suffer and people will continue to die because Trump sucks.
 
BartenderElite said:
It's an opinion piece. The writer is the guy who said the market was perfectly healthy literally a day before the 2008 crash.
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The facts are what they are.

We opened up the economy [except in a few democrat precincts that are dragging their feet even though people are fleeing] and never saw a second ‘April-March’ wave that devastated some states.

The Sun Belt got to post-peak without the draconian [and cruel] mitigation measures they were put into place in March-May.

It requires an explanation; and the OP writer seems to be ‘in the ballpark’.
 
Darth Omar said:
Six months into the Covid-19 pandemic, the U.S. has now carried out two large-scale experiments in public health—first, in March and April, the lockdown of the economy to arrest the spread of the virus, and second, since mid-April, the reopening of the economy. The results are in. Counterintuitive though it may be, statistical analysis shows that locking down the economy didn’t contain the disease’s spread and reopening it didn’t unleash a second wave of infections.

Considering that lockdowns are economically costly and create well-documented long-term public-health consequences beyond Covid, imposing them appears to have been a large policy error. At the beginning, when little was known, officials acted in ways they thought prudent. But now evidence proves that lockdowns were an expensive treatment with serious side effects and no benefit to society.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-failed-experiment-of-covid-lockdowns-11599000890
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Scathing indictment of the lockdown strategy [backed by statistics] in the WSJ.

For months, some of us have been saying the social/health/economic costs of the type of lockdowns we saw the earlier in the year were not only entirely predictable—but they were being ignored by the medical bureaucracy.

Fauci called them ‘an inconvenience’.

This will be looked back on as the single most destructive policy ever instituted by the government.
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You have to be a real dishonest fuckhead to think that the last 3 months has been anything but a massive failure of Conservatism.
 
Phantasmal said:
If we had a true leader it would has been better controlled with testing and tracing. It just proves how much Trump sucks. Our economy will continue to suffer and people will continue to die because Trump sucks.
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Trump didn’t shut down the economy lol.

If fact, he advocated opening back up in mid April. The statistics seems to suggest his instincts were right.

The economy was shutdown on a state by state basis at the recommendation of the medical bureaucracy. Trump had little to nothing to do with it and lacked the authority to either implement it or stop it.

And now, it’s looking like it was a pretty shitty idea. This hasn’t been the best six months for our taxpayer funded medical bureaucracy.
 
Darth Omar said:
We opened up the economy [except in a few democrat precincts that are dragging their feet even though people are fleeing] and never saw a second ‘April-March’ wave that devastated some states.
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Of course we did. You were complaining that the numbers were being fixed to make Trump look bad because you're a little bitch ass.

Yesterday we had 40,000 new cases of COVID and over 1,100 deaths.
 
Darth Omar said:
The Sun Belt got to post-peak without the draconian [and cruel] mitigation measures they were put into place in March-May.
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And the result? 12,000 deaths in Florida, 13,000 deaths in Texas, 5700 deaths in Georgia, 5000 deaths in Arizona...all happening months after what happened in NY.
 
Darth Omar said:
If fact, he advocated opening back up in mid April. The statistics seems to suggest his instincts were right.
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What statistics? What are you fucking talking about? We have just as many new cases (and more deaths) today as we had back in April and May.

Only difference is, those new cases and deaths are happening in Red States that didn't heed the warnings from NY and refused to impose the guidelines that were effective in NY.

Basically, you wasted months on miracle cures and hoaxes, and now we are right back to where we were 4 months ago, with 40,000+ new cases and 1,000+ deaths per day.

In fact, we're in worse shape because in April/May, it was largely in a handful of states. Now, it's everywhere.

And you are 100% responsible for it.
 
Darth Omar said:
The facts are what they are.

We opened up the economy [except in a few democrat precincts that are dragging their feet even though people are fleeing] and never saw a second ‘April-March’ wave that devastated some states.

The Sun Belt got to post-peak without the draconian [and cruel] mitigation measures they were put into place in March-May.

It requires an explanation; and the OP writer seems to be ‘in the ballpark’.
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None of that means the shutdowns were ineffective or didn't serve their purpose.

The writer was as wrong as you can be about the economy right before our biggest crash in decades. For an opinion (not fact) piece, that has some weight.
 
Darth Omar said:
The economy was shutdown on a state by state basis at the recommendation of the medical bureaucracy. Trump had little to nothing to do with it and lacked the authority to either implement it or stop it.
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Implement shutdowns or stop them?

Is your brain so ravaged by dementia that you don't even know what you're saying?

Every instinct you and Trump have had about COVID have been wrong.

Every. Single. One.

From you saying it was a hoax, to Trump saying you should drink bleach...all of you were wrong.
 
Terri4Trump said:
You are an ignorant lying sack of shit.
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The economy entered a recession in February.

The lockdowns didn't start until mid-March.

You're a piece of shit, and one of these days, you are going to doxx yourself and your life will be ruined by people like me.
 
Darth Omar said:
Trump didn’t shut down the economy lol.

If fact, he advocated opening back up in mid April. The statistics seems to suggest his instincts were right.

The economy was shutdown on a state by state basis at the recommendation of the medical bureaucracy. Trump had little to nothing to do with it and lacked the authority to either implement it or stop it.

And now, it’s looking like it was a pretty shitty idea. This hasn’t been the best six months for our taxpayer funded medical bureaucracy.
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Still without a job? That’s not the shut downs fault, people don’t feel safe, the economy will not recover till people feel safe. People will not return to their doctors until they feel safe.

Testing and tracing would have made people feel safe, it because Trump is not a leader, he refuses to implement a national plan.
 
Phantasmal said:
Still without a job? That’s not the shut downs fault, people don’t feel safe, the economy will not recover till people feel safe. People will not return to their doctors until they feel safe.

Testing and tracing would have made people feel safe, it because Trump is not a leader, he refuses to implement a national plan.
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Went ahead and retired but thanks for asking.

I wouldn’t say it’s the shutdowns ‘fault’ because things turned out ok for me lol. But it definitely had personal consequences for me. But millions of people were put out of work ‘that don’t have happy tales to tell’; people lost their shirts in small businesses and many won’t come back; depression and suicides are up; opioid abuse; on and on it goes.

The lockdown strategy left a trail of human misery—statistics are suggesting it made no difference difference in the end.
 
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