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Jarod said:
So, in your feelings, who is ahead in this race?
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Honestly I don't know. If you look at traditional campaigns and conventional wisdom Hillary.

But if this year should have taught anyone anything, conventional wisdom was thrown out of a window.

Here are the things that lead me to believe that there could be a surprise come November 8th

1) I don't see much if any Hillary signage. No bumper stickers, no yard signs etc. To be fair there is much Trump but it is definitely more than Hillary. Maybe these types of signals of support are waning I can't tell. But, based on what I see nobody is willing to put her name where it counts. That wasn't true for Obama in 2008 and 2012

2) she has to rely 100% on surrogates like Obama and Moochelle. Well as people say they aren't on the ballot.

3) she can't pull the kinds of crowds Trump does. Not even close. He pulls 15,000 and she pulls 200

4) Trump has taken a media onslaught unlike any GOP candidate I have seen and yet Hillary still can't get above 45% in most polls. If you look historically if an incumbent can't get above 50% it spells doom. Now you will argue that she isn't technically an incumbent and that is correct but she is as close as anyone in modern history. In terms of name recognition and being seen as an establishment figure for all intents and purposes she is an incumbent. Based on everything that has happened the last few weeks and all these supposed demographic shifts we hear about favoring democrats she should be in the 50s in every poll

5) her book was a complete flop.

So with all of this we are supposed to believe she is a lock?

I honestly don't know. I think anything can happen up til Election Day.
 
Crooked ILLary said:
Honestly I don't know. If you look at traditional campaigns and conventional wisdom Hillary.

But if this year should have taught anyone anything, conventional wisdom was thrown out of a window.

Here are the things that lead me to believe that there could be a surprise come November 8th

1) I don't see much if any Hillary signage. No bumper stickers, no yard signs etc. To be fair there is much Trump but it is definitely more than Hillary. Maybe these types of signals of support are waning I can't tell. But, based on what I see nobody is willing to put her name where it counts. That wasn't true for Obama in 2008 and 2012

2) she has to rely 100% on surrogates like Obama and Moochelle. Well as people say they aren't on the ballot.

3) she can't pull the kinds of crowds Trump does. Not even close. He pulls 15,000 and she pulls 200

4) Trump has taken a media onslaught unlike any GOP candidate I have seen and yet Hillary still can't get above 45% in most polls. If you look historically if an incumbent can't get above 50% it spells doom. Now you will argue that she isn't technically an incumbent and that is correct but she is as close as anyone in modern history. In terms of name recognition and being seen as an establishment figure for all intents and purposes she is an incumbent. Based on everything that has happened the last few weeks and all these supposed demographic shifts we hear about favoring democrats she should be in the 50s in every poll

5) her book was a complete flop.

So with all of this we are supposed to believe she is a lock?

I honestly don't know. I think anything can happen up til Election Day.
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In your opinion, why would that be a surprise?
 
Crooked ILLary said:
Jarod said:
Well according to you and many others the election is over. Trump has ZERO chance of winning. That is what you all are saying and quite frankly behaving like.

I know if I were as confident as you appare to be about Hillary winning, I would be surprised if Trump won
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According to Trump, also.

If he thought he was winning, he wouldn't be calling the election "rigged" every 2 minutes.
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