SPLC scandal brings down Dems
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evince
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Southern Poverty Law Center says its informants weren't a secret to DOJ
Attorneys for the civil rights group said the "unprecedented" and "irregular" prosecution by the Justice Department seeks to criminalize the tools and programs it used for decades.
www.nbcnews.com
evince
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Federal law enforcement officials were "well aware" that the Southern Poverty Law Center provided information from its confidential informants that "put violent extremists in jail" before the Trump administration sought to indict it last week, attorneys for the civil rights organization said in court papers Tuesday.
It’s a lie they have evidence to destroy immediately
The case is virtually over
It’s a lie they have evidence to destroy immediately
The case is virtually over
QP!
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Yup.
Trump DOJ Hit With Explosive Grand Jury Scandal as SPLC Demands Secret Tapes Over Alleged Misconduct
The Southern Poverty Law Center accuses the DOJ of grand jury misconduct, seeking to unseal transcripts in a controversial wire fraud case, alleging misleading claims and political influence.www.ibtimes.co.uk
The Trump DOJ lied to that grand jury to get the indictment folks
I posted this a few days ago when the SPLC first filed their reply.
The DoJ made all sorts of public statements about this case that are obvious lies pretending this covert actions by the SPLC was not shared with law enforcements when the SPLC has a protocol they follow involving levels of law enforcement and often working directly with them, when they want to join the case.
It is all documented by the SPLC so this case will be kicked soon.
evince
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It’s a doomed case because the Trump DOJ LIED to the Grand Jury
And you bought the lies once again fool
T. A. Gardner
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Sounds to me like the SPLC is trying every legal maneuver to find some obscure technicality to get the charges dismissed.Trump DOJ Hit With Explosive Grand Jury Scandal as SPLC Demands Secret Tapes Over Alleged Misconduct
The Southern Poverty Law Center accuses the DOJ of grand jury misconduct, seeking to unseal transcripts in a controversial wire fraud case, alleging misleading claims and political influence.
The Trump DOJ lied to that grand jury to get the indictment folks
evince
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T. A. Gardner
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So, the SPLC shouldn't do that, should they?
QP!
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it sounds to you like that as you are an idiot. Don't act like anyone but you has to hear things with the idiocy you hear them and assume.
WHat it "sounds like" to others who read the material is that the DoJ lied in their filings and likely the grand jury presentation, pretending that SPLC was doing all this covertly when in fact they have records to demonstrate they notify local police or the FBI and they often participate in the investigations.
That "sounds like" more than legal maneuver of some obscure technicality and instead is a core legal issue that will result in charges ALWAYS being dismissed.
QP!
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OMG.
How we now know Terry has no clue the SPLC would not have presented to the Grand Jury and only the DoJ did.
(not sarcastic emoji)And here Terry is not even knowing that and he will still act like he should keep commenting instead of shutting up and learning something.
T. A. Gardner
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If you had millions upon millions to spend and got handed a federal indictment for something, what would you do? The usual call is:OMG.
How we now know Terry has no clue the SPLC would not have presented to the Grand Jury and only the DoJ did.
And here Terry is not even knowing that and he will still act like he should keep commenting instead of shutting up and learning something.
Hire lawyers
Have them search through every document to find a mistake or something that could be used to get the charges quashed on a technicality.
Start filing motions to suppress, etc. everything.
File more motions to change venue, etc.
Drag everything out to the max.
That's what the SPLC is doing. It's the standard playbook for these cases.
QP!
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Only someone who believes the DoJ and government are infallible thinks looking for the mistakes and misrepresentations in their accusations and charges with lawyers is a a bad thing.
I get people like you exist who think the DoJ and government is perfect and thus the very act of hiring lawyers to defend and point out where they are wrong is somehow an afront to you but NO ONE ELSE is like you. Most people want every improper filing, related to charges to exposed and for the DoJ to not make mistakes or misrepresentations to try and get someone.
In this case the misrepresentations are glaring. SO much so this case almost certainly will not make it to trial and will be kicked during open motions and that is when you again will cry about 'how those accused do this' and get things kicked this way, as if that is improper.
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
The DOJ is fallible and that's what the SPLC is clearly banking on at this point. They and their liars... err, lawyers, are trying to find some technicality that will get the case tossed. Given their track record on this sort of case, I'd say the SPLC is on the short end of the stick right now. My bet is the SPLC tries to plea bargain or otherwise get the charges reduced once it becomes obvious they can't get the case itself tossed.
On that note, I'd think they'd go for no individual charges are brought and only the LLC / PLC / Corporation faces charges and those are paid off with a massive fine and some negotiated outcome like not doing that shit again.
QP!
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See, just like you have no clue what the word sarcasm means and how to use it you also do not understand if the FBI says "Terry committed a crime in New York yesterday' and charges Terry with that, then Terry getting a lawyer to point out, in fact he was not in New York and they can prove he was in another in another city and State is not Terry trying to 'find some technicality that will get the case tossed' in a the bad way you are suggesting.
That is exactly what Terry should do. Terry should lay out how his provable facts show the charges are BS.
And you wanting to 'bet the SPLC plea bargains' shows how hopelessly stupid you are how you CANNOT learn as you said the same things about the initial charges against Comey and Letisha. You predicted due to the "DoJ high success rate that they would plea bargain' and i told you at the time you were stupid as 'Trumps DoJ is laughably inept and does not enjoy the historic success rate of ALL PRIOR DoJ'. That Trump DoJ reflects him and magats and is 'stupid people running it'.
You are laughably wrong then and learn nothing now, so you repeat the same stupid predictions.
Some people cannot learn.
(no sarcasm intended)
QP!
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Exactly right.
Are they talking about the Don Lemon case? Pursuing it still?
James Comey case 1? Pursuing it still?
Letisha James? Pursuing it still?
or did they start for the headlines and smears that magats swallow each and every time while proclaiming the imminent guilty verdict, or as @T. A. Gardner predicts wrongly each time, that they will plead out as the DoJ is so good', FLOL,.... NO. They simply move on to the next case that is exposed as laughable and with no chance to survive initial dismissal motions over DoJ misrepresentations of core facts. Something almost uncertainly they lied to the Grand Jury to get the indictment.
That is why Terry is now trying to frame all such exposing of DoJ lies and misrepresentations to get dismissals as wrong to do and is suggesting that the defense should let those things slide. That is because Terry has accepted Trumps DoJ will almost always lie and misrepresent key facts and thus almost ALL CASES will fail this way, and he is struggling to rationalize that as magats have been told the left is so clearly guilty and Trump's DoJ was going to expose them so surely they must be able to put together cases without lies and misrepresentations. Right. ... RIGHT???
(intended sarcasm for Terry who does not understand it)