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It actually says that the more educated you are, the better chance you have at finding a job. That someone with a 4-year liberal arts degree has a better chance at finding a job than someone with just a HS degree. That's what the chart says.

Not sure how you can devise any other conclusion from that link.





OMG, it does matter. You can see it in the unemployment rates yourself; the unemployment rate for a HS diploma is almost twice the unemployment rate for a 4 year degree. Also, the higher your education, the higher your wage.

So after all this you still cannot manage to get a HS degree. Talk about leading a horse to water.
 
Agreed. But when everything is handed to you on a silver platter through affirmative action there's far more hope than the avg. middle class white male has.

Do you seriously believe that there are so many qualified Trump voters out there whose jobs were given to undeserving black people? Or could it be that the reason those resentful, bitter whites lost out on a job was because they were fucking terrible?

Affirmative Action is a nice excuse fragile white losers use to explain their loserdom.

No, the black guy didn't get the job over you because of AA; they got the job over you because you suck.

Take some personal responsibility for yourself instead of blaming a program that levels the playing field.
 
Do you seriously believe that there are so many qualified Trump voters out there whose jobs were given to undeserving black people? Or could it be that the reason those resentful, bitter whites lost out on a job was because they were fucking terrible?

Affirmative Action is a nice excuse fragile white losers use to explain their loserdom.

No, the black guy didn't get the job over you because of AA; they got the job over you because you suck.

I wasn't talking about trump voters. I was referring to IQ64.
Personally I couldn't care less about flunkies, white or black or who they vote for. I make my own luck through hard work and perseverance and tend to associate with like minded people.
 
I wasn't talking about trump voters. I was referring to IQ64.

Well, I'm talking about them. And your whiny criticism of Affirmative Action tells me everything I need to know about you; that you posture on message boards to give yourself more security and comfort because if you actually confronted yourself, you'd have to face facts you're not as clever, savvy, or smart as you want people to think.

You're just a poseur.
 
You think what I support is so good you practiced it yourself, at least you claim you did.

Stating a fact about being responsible isn't anything close to what you state. That you think it is leads me to believe your claims about your kids and grandkids in college is a lie.

I really didn't mention who paid for my children's or who is paying for my grandchildren's college!

Why? Because it's not relevant to my discussing the idea of publicly paid-for Community College!
 
I make my own luck through hard work and perseverance and tend to associate with like minded people.

This is a lie that people with privilege tell themselves because they know that their "success" was defined more by that privilege than their work ethic.

The only thing lucky about you is that you were born white. You didn't make luck for yourself, you exercised your privilege.

Conservatives hate the fact that they know they didn't get to where they were today through hard work or perseverance, but instead relied on a rigged institutional system that accommodated them the day they were born. So they have to create the fantasy that they rose up from nothing because it's easier to believe that than to accept you might not have actually earned "success" or whatever you think that looks like, but instead had a system set up for you to succeed that disadvantaged others.

Basically, you're a poseur and you didn't build that.
 
I wasn't talking about trump voters. I was referring to IQ64.
Personally I couldn't care less about flunkies, white or black or who they vote for. I make my own luck through hard work and perseverance and tend to associate with like minded people.

There is no way he is going to understand that common sense.
 
You don't make your own luck, you rely on your privilege. The only thing lucky about you is that you were born with white skin.

"I find the harder I work, the luckier I get" - often accredited to T. Jefferson

The quote doesn't mention privilege.

If what you said was true, the only thing a white person would have to do when applying for a job is put "I'm white".
 
I really didn't mention who paid for my children's or who is paying for my grandchildren's college!

Why? Because it's not relevant to my discussing the idea of publicly paid-for Community College!

It is relevant. If you didn't pay for your kid's college and you're supporting a program where someone other than you is forced to do so, you're just like the rest of the freeloading parents that refuse to meet their responsibility. You keep proving that I'm a better person and a better parent than you.

On a side not, if you took out loans and won't them back, hopefully that will ruin your credit.
 
He sounds almost as bitter about his failings in life as IQ64. But almost. Never known anyone as bitter as that.

Maybe yourself? After all, you seem really bitter about Affirmative Action.

That's because you know that your privilege is what carried you, not your work ethic. So you take it as a personal affront that anyone dare question the fantasy of hard work and perseverance you crafted for your character, but you secretly know and accept that you didn't work hard, you didn't persevere, you lived a lucky life thanks to your inherent privilege.

You just have to posture on the internet because it makes you feel better to think that other people think you are a rugged individualist because you don't.
 
Maybe yourself? After all, you seem really bitter about Affirmative Action.

That's because you know that your privilege is what carried you, not your work ethic. So you take it as a personal affront that anyone dare question the fantasy of hard work and perseverance you crafted for your character, but you secretly know and accept that you didn't work hard, you didn't persevere, you lived a lucky life thanks to your inherent privilege.

You just have to posture on the internet because it makes you feel better to think that other people think you are a rugged individualist because you don't.

Those benefiting from AA should be bitter. They're being told that they lack the ability to do it on their own and a factor for which they had no control is what is used to make the decision.
 
Waste of time, everyone must pay their student loans.

Yep! I agree, that if you currently owe for your student loan- It must be paid. Just as if you would pay back a loan for your car payment.

I'm in this argument as an advocate to extend Public School all the way to an Associates degree. And I laid out ideas on how to accomplish that without any help from the Federal Government!

I am a Democrat- but I am no Bat-Shit-Crazy Democrat that wants the Federal Government to pay for anyone's education- or their student loans!
 
Maybe yourself? After all, you seem really bitter about Affirmative Action.
How so? I never needed affirmative action. My white privilege somehow caused me to work hard in state undergrad and professional schools as well as in the real world.
As far as affirmative action, that's only a set up for failure later on. So in a way it's not even fair to those who receive it.
 
Yep! I agree, that if you currently owe for your student loan- It must be paid. Just as if you would pay back a loan for your car payment.

I'm in this argument as an advocate to extend Public School all the way to an Associates degree. And I laid out ideas on how to accomplish that without any help from the Federal Government!

I am a Democrat- but I am no Bat-Shit-Crazy Democrat that wants the Federal Government to pay for anyone's education- or their student loans!

You are as much of a Democrat as I am a republican. Cut the bull shit
 
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