STUDY: TRUMP pushed a drug & 'coereced' testing that caused potential & MAJOR HARM!!

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You truly are an arsehole, all you ever get from you is relentless propaganda.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...oxychloroquine-in-trial&p=3666793#post3666793

Apparently the NHS is incapable of making informed decisions according to Salty Walty, Joan of Snark and NotAllThere.

Up to 10,000 NHS workers will be given anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine to see if it can protect them against the coronavirus in a new trial.

US President Donald Trump sparked fury earlier this week when announced he was taking the drug as a prophylaxis, despite there being no proof it works in this way.

And the evidence on whether it can even treat COVID-19 - the disease caused by the coronavirus - is mixed.

British researchers believe hydroxychloroquine's 'best chance' of working is if it used in prevention, which is exactly how it is used against malaria.

The trial will involve healthcare workers who come into direct contact with COVID-19 patients. Results are expected by the end of the year.

Hospitals in Brighton and Oxford will be among the first to be involved in the global study, which will also enroll volunteers in Europe, Africa, Asia and South America.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-given-hydroxychloroquine-clinical-trial.html

 

[Althea]

You truly are an arsehole, all you ever get from you is relentless propaganda.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...oxychloroquine-in-trial&p=3666793#post3666793

Yea. You're such a gem


The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) is a conservative non-profit association founded in 1943. The group was reported to have about 5,000 members in 2014. The association advocates a range of scientifically discredited hypotheses, including the belief that HIV does not cause AIDS, that being gay reduces life expectancy, that there is a link between abortion and breast cancer, and that there is a causal relationship between vaccines and autism. It is opposed to the Affordable Care Act and other forms of universal health insurance.

 

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Yea. You're such a gem


The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) is a conservative non-profit association founded in 1943. The group was reported to have about 5,000 members in 2014. The association advocates a range of scientifically discredited hypotheses, including the belief that HIV does not cause AIDS, that being gay reduces life expectancy, that there is a link between abortion and breast cancer, and that there is a causal relationship between vaccines and autism. It is opposed to the Affordable Care Act and other forms of universal health insurance.

Have you got a link to a site that says the NHS is run by far right Fascists linked to the KKK? I am sure you can find one if you look hard enough!

 

[Stretch]

We are going to have to make some tough choices in the near future, but these people seem to be rejoicing in killing others, and lying about the tough choices.

You didn't hear the Birx today. Comorbidity is the biggest risk factor in WuFlu serious cases & deaths. The majority of others recover.
Get up to date. This is not 5 or 6 weeks ago. Every day brings the latest findings from the medical community.

 

[Stretch]

You like to pretend to be an educated health professional and constitutional muckety-muck on the Innernetz. Explain to us how my right to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" is trumped (pun intended) by your right to have everyone gaze upon your mug because you refuse to wear a mask.

I never said anywhere that "I refused" to wear a mask.

 

[Centerleftfl]

The president used the drug, temporally, with the approval of the White House doctor.

He did not encourage others to use it.

Try to think for yourself, Snowflake. Use it, don't use it.

Choice.

This post had ZERO to do with the IIC's use. This was about his early SELLING, pushing an untested drug, off label use, while the FDA and CDC saying, not so fast dumbass. And often sharing the stage with him when he tried to sell it.

Guess he couldn't STEAMROLL those other continents. Oh well, next...

 

[AProudLefty]

The president used the drug, temporally, with the approval of the White House doctor.

Pro-tip: do not believe a liar without proof.

You're welcome.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

We are going to have to make some tough choices in the near future, but these people seem to be rejoicing in killing others, and lying about the tough choices.

Yes. There is a big gulf between being a realist ("We must reopen to save our economy but sadly this means that more ppl will be infected.") and the "I don't give a shit about your fears, I want to get my nails done NOW" covidiots.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) is a conservative non-profit association founded in 1943. The group was reported to have about 5,000 members in 2014. The association advocates a range of scientifically discredited hypotheses, including the belief that HIV does not cause AIDS, that being gay reduces life expectancy, that there is a link between abortion and breast cancer, and that there is a causal relationship between vaccines and autism. It is opposed to the Affordable Care Act and other forms of universal health insurance.

Excellent take-down!

 

[Earl]

Pro-tip: do not believe a liar without proof.

You're welcome.

Pro-tip: take a hike, proven sock.

What happened to the “Respect” thread that you started and thread-banned a poster who was permanently banned FOUR years ago?

 

[Earl]

Yes. There is a big gulf between being a realist ("We must reopen to save our economy but sadly this means that more ppl will be infected.") and the "I don't give a shit about your fears, I want to get my nails done NOW" covidiots.

There are millions of small business owners who have no income and they have to feed their families, Mujer de Buho. Some of those are hair salon owners. Do you want them to starve because you want the shutdown to continue til Nov.?

Of course you do, Mujer de a Buho.

And you don’t give a rat’s culo how many can’t feed their families.

 

[Cypress]

Yes. There is a big gulf between being a realist ("We must reopen to save our economy but sadly this means that more ppl will be infected.") and the "I don't give a shit about your fears, I want to get my nails done NOW" covidiots.

It is a false choice between saving lives, and saving Trump's reelection-aka, opening the economy.

Trump had many months and years to aggressivly prepare for a pandemic, like South Korea did.

Trump was to stupid, fat, and lethargic to do so

 

[Althea]

Excellent take-down!

We went through this with Grok weeks ago. Only a moron would attempt to drag this nonsense here again.

 

[Althea]

It is a false choice between saving lives, and saving Trump's reelection-aka, opening the economy.

Trump had many months and years to aggressivly prepare for a pandemic, like South Korea did.

Trump was to stupid, fat, and lethargic to do so

Since election night, trump's focus has been on one thing...how to monetize the presidency. We wanted to know what it would be like to run the country like a business.

Why did we pick a broke failure of a businessman?
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[Earl]

It is a false choice between saving lives, and saving Trump's reelection-aka, opening the economy.

Trump had many months and years to aggressivly prepare for a pandemic, like South Korea did.

Trump was to stupid, fat, and lethargic to do so

“...was TO stupid...”

Speaking of stupid.

The president used the drug, temporally, with the approval of the White House doctor.

He did not encourage others to use it.

Try to think for yourself, Snowflake. Use it, don't use it.

Choice.

 

[Earl]

Since election night, trump's focus has been on one thing...how to monetize the presidency. We wanted to know what it would be like to run the country like a business.

Why did we pick a broke failure of a businessman?
'

Do you consider a net worth of 2.1 billion a broke failure, Snowflake?

Trump's Net Worth Drops $1 Billion As Coronavirus Infects ...www.forbes.com › sites › danalexander › 2020/04/02
Apr 2, 2020 - We valued the president at $3.1 billion a month ago. Now he's worth $2.1 billion. Here's why.

 

[FreeSpeech]

LET US NOT FORGET THE BIG PICTURE HERE. We and the world spent 2 - 2 1/2 months going down TRUMP'S rabbit hole. MORE TIME LOST!

Day 2 after Trump started TOUTING his snake oil theory, this amateur posted the contraindications of his CHOSEN drug right out of the PDR. I stated that was a shitload of contraindications on a 60 year old drug and I NOTED at the time people with HEART DISEASE, DIABETES and alcoholism--active or sober--were major groups which could be precluded from using it. AND that represented a shitload of the US population. My instincts were dead on (no pun intended). Heart arrhythmias lead to sudden heart attacks and STROKES. Surely you have seen the ads. Seems a pretty important 'side effect' to me.

They didn't have the luxury of a double blind study. But HONEST #'s like this don't lie. Of course I guess 6 continents and all the medical institutions could have 'colluded' to change medical records and numbers. Sure! That'll be the next conspiracy theory. Stay tuned...

“It’s one thing not to have benefit, but this shows distinct harm,”
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Antimalarial drug touted by President Trump is linked to increased risk of death in coronavirus patients, study says

An analysis of 96,000 patients shows those treated with hydroxychloroquine were also more likely to suffer irregular heart rhythms

President Trump on May 18 said that he has been taking the anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine as a preventive measure against the coronavirus. (The Washington Post)​

By Ariana Eunjung Cha and
Laurie McGinley

May 22, 2020 at 8:28 a.m. EDT

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A study of 96,000 hospitalized coronavirus patients on six continents found that those who received an antimalarial drug promoted by President Trump as a “game changer” in the fight against the virus had a significantly higher risk of death compared with those who did not.

People treated with hydroxychloroquine, or the closely related drug chloroquine, were also more likely to develop a type of irregular heart rhythm, or arrhythmia, that can lead to sudden cardiac death, it concluded.

The study, published Friday in the medical journal the Lancet, is the largest analysis to date of the risks and benefits of treating covid-19 patients with antimalarial drugs. It is based on a retrospective analysis of medical records, not a controlled study in which patients are divided randomly into treatment groups — a method considered the gold standard of medicine. But the sheer size of the study was convincing to some scientists.

“It’s one thing not to have benefit, but this shows distinct harm,” said Eric Topol, a cardiologist and director of the Scripps Research Translational Institute. “If there was ever hope for this drug, this is the death of it.”

David Maron, director of preventive cardiology at the Stanford University School of Medicine, said that “these findings provide absolutely no reason for optimism that these drugs might be useful in the prevention or treatment of covid-19.”

Past studies also found scant or no evidence of hydroxychloroquine’s benefit in treating sick patients, while reports mounted of dangerous heart problems associated with its use. As a result, the Food and Drug Administration last month warned against the use of the drug outside hospital settings or clinical trials

The new analysis — by Mandeep Mehra, a Harvard Medical School professor and physician at Brigham and Women’s Hospital, and colleagues at other institutions — included patients with a positive laboratory test for covid-19 who were hospitalized between Dec. 20, 2019, and April 14, 2020, at 671 medical centers worldwide. The mean age was 54 years, and 53 percent were men. Those who were on mechanical ventilators or who received remdesivir, an antiviral drug made by Gilead Sciences that has shown promise in decreasing recovery times, were excluded.

Mehra said in an interview that the widespread use of antimalarials for covid-19 patients was based on the idea of “a desperate disease demands desperate measures," but that we have learned a hard lesson from the experience about the importance of first doing no harm.

In retrospect, Mehra said, using the drugs without systematic testing was “unwise.”

“I wish we had had this information at the outset,” he said, “as there has potentially been harm to patients.”

Nearly 15,000 of the 96,000 patients in the analysis were treated with hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine alone or in combination with a type of antibiotics known as a macrolide, such as azithromycin or clarithromycin, within 48 hours of their diagnosis.

The difference between patients who received the antimalarials and those who did not was striking.

For those given hydroxychloroquine, there was a 34 percent increase in risk of mortality and a 137 percent increased risk of a serious heart arrhythmias. For those receiving hydroxychloroquine and an antibiotic — the cocktail endorsed by Trump — there was a 45 percent increased risk of death and a 411 percent increased risk of serious heart arrhythmias...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/05/22/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-study/

Lol ya the 50 year old drug with zero recommendations for an EKG when prescribed is now a heart attack pill because science. Get gassed you fucking retard.

 

[Cypress]

Since election night, trump's focus has been on one thing...how to monetize the presidency. We wanted to know what it would be like to run the country like a business.

Why did we pick a broke failure of a businessman?
'

The minority of voters who selected trump have been open and transparent about why they support him. The do not care if he lies, acts like a petulant child, or is grossly incompetent.

They just want someone who will "stick it" to libs, because it validates the resentments and petty grievances they feel in their own lives

 

[FreeSpeech]

Since election night, trump's focus has been on one thing...how to monetize the presidency. We wanted to know what it would be like to run the country like a business.

Why did we pick a broke failure of a businessman?
'

Trump made his money before entering office the nigger Obama, the Rapist Clinton, and the Chinese asset Biden all made their money during and after office.

 

[Earl]

The minority of voters who selected trump have been open and transparent about why they support him. The do not care if he lies, acts like a petulant child, or is grossly incompetent.

They just want someone who will "stick it" to libs, because it validates the resentments and petty grievances they feel in their own lives

The majority of electoral voters who voted for President Trump and not Hillary, reflected the wishes of the Republicans. It’s called an election and your pick lost.