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If anybody deserves the title of Lord of Cretins, you are the undisputed master.
STUDY: TRUMP pushed a drug & 'coereced' testing that caused potential & MAJOR HARM!!
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If anybody deserves the title of Lord of Cretins, you are the undisputed master.
Noking
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You don't have the brains of a piss hole in snow filled with Molasses
floridafan, Trumpet, and Nordberg are dumb libs who rarely add any content (Nordberg adds minimal at times)
domer76 is an asshat, but at least can speak intelligently in between Torrete's Syndrome spoutings of 'cunt'"
PostmodernProphet
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I never said anywhere that "I refused" to wear a mask.
the funny part is, Governer Gretch the Wretch has completely opened up that part of the state where OwlWoman lives........the yoopers are free.....and here she sits pointing fingers at people who want to be....
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Joanie is an ocean going hypocrite, surely that well established by now!
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That's better but not by much! Do you ever think how much happier the world would be if your mother swallowed?
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We can always count on the Lord of Cretins' superior stupidity for guidance.
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You see you could have made that funnier with just a touch of alliteration, Count of Cretins is much better or even Marquis of Morons. Sadly you're not very imaginative, dull and boring is nearer the mark to be honest, maybe the next firmware upgrade will fix that?
Hahaha.... that's hilarious. You do know that I am a licensed health care professional, right? Most of us know the difference between a mechanical device (vent) and a pharmaceutical product (Plaquenil/HCQ). You can bellow and snark all you like about the effectiveness of Plaquenil on COVID-19 infections, but you cannot change the fact that is has been proven to be ineffective in the treatment of the disease. Let's see your peer-reviewed and replicated studies proving your misinformation.
While you're frantically digging around for something credible to back up your nonsense, let's look at an actual published large-cohort study:
"In this observational study involving patients with Covid-19 who had been admitted to the hospital, hydroxychloroquine administration was not associated with either a greatly lowered or an increased risk of the composite end point of intubation or death. Randomized, controlled trials of hydroxychloroquine in patients with Covid-19 are needed. (Funded by the National Institutes of Health.)" (https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2012410)
and
"VERDICT
"Current data do not support the use of hydroxychloroquine for prophylaxis or treatment of COVID-19. There are no published trials of prophylaxis. Two trials of hydroxychloroquine treatment that are in the public domain, one non-peer reviewed, are premature analyses of trials whose conduct in both cases diverged from the published skeleton protocols registered on clinical trial sites. Neither they, nor three other negative trials that have since appeared, support the view that hydroxychloroquine is effective in the management of even mild COVID-19 disease." (https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19-what-do-the-clinical-trials-tell-us/)
Yes, it is FDA approved for the treatment of malaria and lupus. Obviously these are not coronavirus.
See above study #1. It was conducted at hospitals in NYC. You do know what a trial is, don't you? It's an experiment. Simply carrying it out does not prove efficacy.
It's interesting that you Trumpanzees continue to hawk HCQ yet seem strangely silent about an anti-viral drug, remdesivir, that actually IS effective against COVID-19. Why is that? All your crying about this pandemic being politicized, yet here you are -- politicizing an unproven and probably life-shortening treatment and completely ignoring a promising drug -- because your Cretin-in-Chief claims to be taking it.
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If you prefer to be called the Marquis of Morons, that alright with me.
You omitted the predicate in the last phrase of your poorly constructed sentence, Trumper.
De nada, I consider it a public service.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
odd.....I wonder why Trumpet carries molasses around when he pisses in the snow.....
Gee all the fact-based people who dispute your righty propaganda are on your list That list is not about them. It is about you There is nothing intelligent about swallowing Trump lies and parroting them across this board.
Tranquillus in Exile
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March 22, 2020
On Friday the WHO announced a large global trial to find out whether any of four existing therapies can treat COVID-19:
remdesivir, chloroquine/hydroxychloroquine, ritonavir/lopinavir with or without interferon-beta.
The study, which could include many thousands of patients in dozens of countries, has been designed to be as simple as possible so that even hospitals overwhelmed by an onslaught of COVID-19 patients can participate.
On Sunday, INSERM, the French biomedical research agency, announced it will coordinate an add-on trial in Europe that will follow WHO’s example and will include 3200 patients from at least seven countries, including 800 from France. That trial will test the same drugs, with the exception of chloroquine.
The WHO scientific panel designing the study had originally decided to leave CQ and HCQ out of the trial, but had a change of heart because the drugs “received significant attention” in many countries. The widespread interested prompted “the need to examine emerging evidence to inform a decision on its potential role.”
Studies in cell culture have suggested chloroquines have some activity against SARS-CoV-2, but the doses needed are usually high—and could cause serious toxicities. Encouraging cell study results with chloroquines against two other viral diseases, dengue and chikungunya, didn’t pan out in randomized clinical trials. And nonhuman primates infected with chikungunya did worse when given chloroquine. “Researchers have tried this drug on virus after virus, and it never works out in humans. The dose needed is just too high,” says Susanne Herold, an expert on pulmonary infections at the University of Giessen.
Researchers in France have published a study in which they treated 20 COVID-19 patients with hydroxychloroquine. They concluded that the drug significantly reduced viral load in nasal swabs. But it was not a randomized controlled trial and it didn’t report clinical outcomes such as deaths. In guidance published on Friday, the U.S. Society of Critical Care Medicine said “there is insufficient evidence to issue a recommendation on the use of chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine in critically ill adults with COVID-19.”
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...al-four-most-promising-coronavirus-treatments
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Results from this major study are expected within the next six months. The downside is that the study is being coordinated by the wicked World Health Organization!
On Friday the WHO announced a large global trial to find out whether any of four existing therapies can treat COVID-19:
remdesivir, chloroquine/hydroxychloroquine, ritonavir/lopinavir with or without interferon-beta.
The study, which could include many thousands of patients in dozens of countries, has been designed to be as simple as possible so that even hospitals overwhelmed by an onslaught of COVID-19 patients can participate.
On Sunday, INSERM, the French biomedical research agency, announced it will coordinate an add-on trial in Europe that will follow WHO’s example and will include 3200 patients from at least seven countries, including 800 from France. That trial will test the same drugs, with the exception of chloroquine.
The WHO scientific panel designing the study had originally decided to leave CQ and HCQ out of the trial, but had a change of heart because the drugs “received significant attention” in many countries. The widespread interested prompted “the need to examine emerging evidence to inform a decision on its potential role.”
Studies in cell culture have suggested chloroquines have some activity against SARS-CoV-2, but the doses needed are usually high—and could cause serious toxicities. Encouraging cell study results with chloroquines against two other viral diseases, dengue and chikungunya, didn’t pan out in randomized clinical trials. And nonhuman primates infected with chikungunya did worse when given chloroquine. “Researchers have tried this drug on virus after virus, and it never works out in humans. The dose needed is just too high,” says Susanne Herold, an expert on pulmonary infections at the University of Giessen.
Researchers in France have published a study in which they treated 20 COVID-19 patients with hydroxychloroquine. They concluded that the drug significantly reduced viral load in nasal swabs. But it was not a randomized controlled trial and it didn’t report clinical outcomes such as deaths. In guidance published on Friday, the U.S. Society of Critical Care Medicine said “there is insufficient evidence to issue a recommendation on the use of chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine in critically ill adults with COVID-19.”
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...al-four-most-promising-coronavirus-treatments
[abbreviated]
Results from this major study are expected within the next six months. The downside is that the study is being coordinated by the wicked World Health Organization!
your misstatements in here are rampant. I'm tired of correcting your posts..Hahaha.... that's hilarious. You do know that I am a licensed health care professional, right? Most of us know the difference between a mechanical device (vent) and a pharmaceutical product (Plaquenil/HCQ). You can bellow and snark all you like about the effectiveness of Plaquenil on COVID-19 infections, but you cannot change the fact that is has been proven to be ineffective in the treatment of the disease. Let's see your peer-reviewed and replicated studies proving your misinformation.
While you're frantically digging around for something credible to back up your nonsense, let's look at an actual published large-cohort study:
"In this observational study involving patients with Covid-19 who had been admitted to the hospital, hydroxychloroquine administration was not associated with either a greatly lowered or an increased risk of the composite end point of intubation or death. Randomized, controlled trials of hydroxychloroquine in patients with Covid-19 are needed. (Funded by the National Institutes of Health.)" (https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2012410)
and
"VERDICT
"Current data do not support the use of hydroxychloroquine for prophylaxis or treatment of COVID-19. There are no published trials of prophylaxis. Two trials of hydroxychloroquine treatment that are in the public domain, one non-peer reviewed, are premature analyses of trials whose conduct in both cases diverged from the published skeleton protocols registered on clinical trial sites. Neither they, nor three other negative trials that have since appeared, support the view that hydroxychloroquine is effective in the management of even mild COVID-19 disease." (https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19-what-do-the-clinical-trials-tell-us/)
Yes, it is FDA approved for the treatment of malaria and lupus. Obviously these are not coronavirus.
See above study #1. It was conducted at hospitals in NYC. You do know what a trial is, don't you? It's an experiment. Simply carrying it out does not prove efficacy.
It's interesting that you Trumpanzees continue to hawk HCQ yet seem strangely silent about an anti-viral drug, remdesivir, that actually IS effective against COVID-19. Why is that? All your crying about this pandemic being politicized, yet here you are -- politicizing an unproven and probably life-shortening treatment and completely ignoring a promising drug -- because your Cretin-in-Chief claims to be taking it.
think wht you want -you are beyond reasoning anyways.
the study you cite is not a trial
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...al-four-most-promising-coronavirus-treatments
[abbreviated]
Results from this major study are expected within the next six months. The downside is that the study is being coordinated by the wicked World Health Organization!
Which explains the push to denigrate and disparage this fine organization by the cultists and their orange Baal.
PostmodernProphet
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not only that, it now has become known that Gretch the Self-Serving Wretch opened up the north third of the state, then held a Memorial Day gathering honoring her daughter's graduation at her cottage that fortunately for her sits just above the line she drew across the state for reopening........her husband also tried to get their boat put in the water, and when the marina told him there was no way they could get that done in time for Memorial Day asked "does it make a difference that my wife is the governor"?......
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/26/gretchen-whitmer-husband-marc-mallory-boat-lockdown
Centerleftfl
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How many POISON CONTROL calls were received after Donnie Disinfectant made his absurd pronouncement? How many un subscribed overdoses of the drug were patients treated for around the country? (And the world)
I wouldn't take 2 ASPIRIN if Trump recommended it.