Surge is succeding, Dims lost in time...

no one is 'pro-war' least I hope not, but the facts are, we are there, we broke it, we have to fix it, we've seen before what happens when you break something and walk away from hit, read German history from 1918 to 1933.

I don't mean here, I was thinking more broadly. I was contrasting it with WWII (not that I was around at the time) which didn't need boosters. Of course the need for boosters wasn't there in the Korean War either, it being surrounded by the "communist threat" which seemed to have the West (all of us) paralysed with fear. Not so the Vietnam War, that needed boosters - failed of course but it still needed its cheerleaders.
 
On track? Pig's bloody arse. The insurgents are on their own ground, they can afford to wait out any "surge" and anyone with half a brain knows it. It's a measure of the politicisation of this invasion and occupation that Bush and Cheney are desperate to "prove" to Americans that they haven't committed the biggest fuckup in US foreign policy. They have.

Now, about LE and military. In my country we separate the two and we make sure they're each different from one another. We haven't made a fetish of militarism although that hasn't stopped the odd idiot from trying to pass themselves off as a former serviceman (seems to be males who do this) to gain kudos on Anzac Day.

And about me being a fraud. Think what you will, it doesn't concern me. I don't expect anyone to give any weight to any of my remarks simply because of what I do for a job. I'll stand behind my views with evidence rather than some half-arsed appeal to my occupational status.

As for "turncoat", I have opposed this fuckup from it's "shock and awe" days when people were babbling about how wonderful the doctrine was. I asked - not here of course, I wasn't a member - if anyone remembered the Nazi doctrine of "blitzkrieg" - lightning war. Shock and fucking awe. What a fucking joke.


Great post!
 
Not yet but our office party starts here in 30 minutes so I will be.

I was saying that the concept of 'you break it you own it' has been around prior to 2003. So citizen trying to claim we are playing out of Bush's playbook is way late to the game.

Oh Cawacko, come on back after you are finished. i will probably just be getting up, and I love reading you then. It's better than my morning coffee!
 
Oh Cawacko, come on back after you are finished. i will probably just be getting up, and I love reading you then. It's better than my morning coffee!

For sure. Make sure you leave your computer on tonight cawacko. And on the way home, try to get good and pissed at Cypress.
 
Oh Cawacko, come on back after you are finished. i will probably just be getting up, and I love reading you then. It's better than my morning coffee!

You know what screw both you and Beefy!!! You should be trying to help me overcome my late night posting issues instead of encouraging it for your personal enjoyment!!!

'Please Lord, you know I'm going to be in bad shape. Please let me walk straight to the bedroom and not stop at my computer!!!' 'Thank you kind Sir.'

Your humble servant,
Cawacko
 
You know what screw both you and Beefy!!! You should be trying to help me overcome my late night posting issues instead of encouraging it for your personal enjoyment!!!

'Please Lord, you know I'm going to be in bad shape. Please let me walk straight to the bedroom and not stop at my computer!!!' 'Thank you kind Sir.'

Your humble servant,
Cawacko

Get seriously lit, everything else will fall into place.
 
You know what screw both you and Beefy!!! You should be trying to help me overcome my late night posting issues instead of encouraging it for your personal enjoyment!!!

'Please Lord, you know I'm going to be in bad shape. Please let me walk straight to the bedroom and not stop at my computer!!!' 'Thank you kind Sir.'

Your humble servant,
Cawacko

Nearly every night, unless lucky, I say the same. :clink:
 
On track? Pig's bloody arse. The insurgents are on their own ground, they can afford to wait out any "surge" and anyone with half a brain knows it. It's a measure of the politicisation of this invasion and occupation that Bush and Cheney are desperate to "prove" to Americans that they haven't committed the biggest fuckup in US foreign policy. They have.

Now, about LE and military. In my country we separate the two and we make sure they're each different from one another. We haven't made a fetish of militarism although that hasn't stopped the odd idiot from trying to pass themselves off as a former serviceman (seems to be males who do this) to gain kudos on Anzac Day.

And about me being a fraud. Think what you will, it doesn't concern me. I don't expect anyone to give any weight to any of my remarks simply because of what I do for a job. I'll stand behind my views with evidence rather than some half-arsed appeal to my occupational status.

As for "turncoat", I have opposed this fuckup from it's "shock and awe" days when people were babbling about how wonderful the doctrine was. I asked - not here of course, I wasn't a member - if anyone remembered the Nazi doctrine of "blitzkrieg" - lightning war. Shock and fucking awe. What a fucking joke.
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See, you're living in the past, incredible progress has been made in the past six months, we now have a very competent commander, Gen. Petraeus, whose strategy is showing incredible results. The key to winning here is pacifying those insurgents and to bring them into the government, we're making great progress here, the Sunni's are turning against al-qeada, and the Shiites away from the extremist militia's. The terrorists are running out of places to hide, and if we just give our commanders the tools they are requesting, then who knows what Iraq could look like in ten years, a vibrant trading partner, a democratic state, or a terrorist state sponsor of Islamic fundamentalists.
 
I don't mean here, I was thinking more broadly. I was contrasting it with WWII (not that I was around at the time) which didn't need boosters. Of course the need for boosters wasn't there in the Korean War either, it being surrounded by the "communist threat" which seemed to have the West (all of us) paralysed with fear. Not so the Vietnam War, that needed boosters - failed of course but it still needed its cheerleaders.

call it what you will, I call it the truth, and I don't believe in sacrificing good men and women for a cause we don't see through.
 
call it what you will, I call it the truth, and I don't believe in sacrificing good men and women for a cause we don't see through.

Oh, the sunk cost dilemma. Yeah, a good reason to keep sending people. Sorry to be cutting but that doesn't make sense. Let me clarify. The military is sent to fight a bullshit war, it's obviously a bullshit war but because good people have sacrificed their lives for a bullshit war their sacrifice can't be seen to be in vain so more and more people are sent to fight and die. So all those people fighting and dying suddenly transform a bullshit war into something trandscending the bullshit war. I don't think so. No person's sacrifice can enoble an act that is absolutely without nobility.

Assuming BushCheney actually do leave the White House when due and don't (a) pull a false flag op or (b) mount a coup then they'll leave the decision to the next president. Right now they'll keep sending military personnel to Iraq to fight and die even though they know it's a bullshit war. It's not affecting them so why the fuck should they care, right?
 
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I second that! Too bad about your complaints Cawacko!

This sucks!!! I am drunk but the sober kind. Somehow I must find my way home. I hope to be back on this board in the near future. If not my I log on from jail? Does anyone know?
 
This sucks!!! I am drunk but the sober kind. Somehow I must find my way home. I hope to be back on this board in the near future. If not my I log on from jail? Does anyone know?

Is it county or state time? No problems in Club Fed though, I believe they're preparing Conrad Black's suite now, I bet the bastard has faster broadband than I do (that wouldn't be hard, it would be fucking faster in Guantanamo).
 
No crackberry yet, must wait until Christmas.

So my dumb ass made it home drunk. Stupid. Should not have been driving. Taco Bell was an excellent pit stop though.

Sucks!!!

The image of a bombed investment executive, sans blackberry, at taco bell, in fear of the cops, making it home to make the above post... God Bless America.
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The image of a bombed investment executive, sans blackberry, at taco bell, in fear of the cops, making it home to make the above post... God Bless America.
:clink:

Touche!!!

I'm sure our pension fund clients are so glad they invest multi-millions of dollars through me. They would be so proud right now!

I would take Darla's and LadyT's advice and do something immoral to myself but I couldn't get excited even if you offered $1 billion. No chance to do what they said.

DAMMIT!!!!!!
 
Years ago in the state next to mine (it's called 'Victoria') there was a significant push to make dui socially unacceptable. The authorities realiised that no-one gave a fuck about being dui and of course the police can't be everywhere (and who the fricking hell would want that anyway?), so they went all psyops.

They devised a hugely expensive campaign of tv ads, print ads and all the rest of it. They spent much money. The meme line was, "Drink-Drive, You're A Bloody Idiot!"

Now you have to understand that here in Aus we swear like troopers. But in the button-down media back then it was all very po-faced. Can you believe back in the 1960s the Australian commercial radio industry bleeped out the word "bloody" from the big hit "The Bloody Red Baron" which was a song by The Royal Guardsmen spinning off the phenomenal success of Charles Schultz's "Peanuts" cartoon strip and the loveable beagle Snoopy's fantasies of flying his Sopwith Kennel into battle over the trenches in France in World War One (am I boring you yet?)

Anyway, the Victorian government spent all this money trying to shift public opinion and make people disapprove of dui like we disapprove of under-age sex today (please, fundies don't fucking write to me about it, I'll ignore you). The big punch-line, "Drink-drive, you're a bloody idiot!" was a huge tallking point. It began to bite.

Then some bastard stuck a sticker with the "Drink-drive you're a bloody idiot!" on the back door of a men's dunny door in a pub in Carlton (a sort of leftoid suburb of Melbourne) and underneath in big, black Texta he wrote:

'BUT IF YOU GET HOME YOU'RE A LEGEND!!!"

Just about fucked the government campaign and entered the contemporary legends in Australia.

cawacko - don't fucking do it again, you could have killed someone. Get a cab or don't get on the piss when you're going to drive. Fuck legends.
 
Touche!!!

I'm sure our pension fund clients are so glad they invest multi-millions of dollars through me. They would be so proud right now!

I would take Darla's and LadyT's advice and do something immoral to myself but I couldn't get excited even if you offered $1 billion. No chance to do what they said.

DAMMIT!!!!!!

ROFL!!!

Sometimes the best you can hope for is a wet dream. I've never had one to my grand dismay, but every night I hope to Jesus that I get one.

Anyhow, if I ever have a couple of dimes to rub together, you're my banker. I mean that.
 
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