Syria has a long history, some of those cities are 4000 years old.
Syria today
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It's not about radical Islam. It's about power and control, just like everywhere else. They are fighting with weapons, not praying on prayer rugs facing Mecca.
The anti-western sentiment is long-standing. It is neither "rising" nor otherwise somehow new. Western and Islamic societies are not compatible, and Muslim countries are terrified of western values spreading like a cancer into their countries. Hence, they become militant and fight to defend their society and culture.
The exception is Iran and the Ayatollah who needs to destroy Israel (or at least be able to plausibly claim that Israel is destroyed) for his master plan to succeed. To this end, the attacks on Israel will never cease as long as Iran is the rabidly militant theocracy that it is.
Benghazi was simply Hillary's illicit power-brokering "pay-to-play" side business. Someone paid Hillary a shitload of money to ensure all assistance to the consulate would be stood down, so that the consulate and the CIA compound could be isolated/cut off, and the ambassador killed along with two CIA agents. Barak Obama was strangely "unavailable" for about a day, and Hillary complied with instructions, and had all support, even military units who were chomping at the bit to respond, to simply stand down "until further notice." Once the ambassador and the CIA agents were confirmed dead, security forces were allowed to respond, but of course they missed the party, by design.
By the way, if you were wondering why Hillary had her own private server at home, onto which she illegally loaded files that she exfiltrated from Top Secret networks, see the above for an example.
Diogenes
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HTS swept through Syria in the face of total regime collapse like a hot scimitar through butter.
What's HTS? Hayat Tahrir Al-Sham means “Assembly for the Liberation of the Levant”.
They are led by Abu Muhammad al-Julani (that’s his nom de guerre - his real name is Ahmed Hussein al-Shar’a - in recent interviews he has used his real name, for reasons that will become apparent).
HTS has their origins in Al Qaeda and the Islamic State (ISIS). More about that later.
When Iraq went up in flames (2011 version) under Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi’s Islamic State of Iraq (ISI), his loyal henchman Ahmed Hussein al-Shar’a (AKA al-Julani) was sent to Syria to set up a splinter cell there, to exploit the opportunity for ISI presented by the Syrian civil war
Ahmed Hussein al-Shar’a (AKA al-Julani) is a Syrian - his nom de guerre “Julani” references the Golan Heights.
A child of the "palestinian" second intifada, he went to Iraq in 2003 to ne inculcated in terrorist tactics and was a senior player in Al Qaeda there (of course he denies that).
He was caught by the Americans in 2006 under Bush and released by Obama in 2011, at which point al-Baghdadi packed him off to Syria with a bundle of cash, probably from one of Obama's infamous pallet-fulls of dollars.
He did his evil work well.
He recruited from Al Qaeda, Islamic State, and other Islamist hardliners. One, Al-Nusra, was so successful mounting terror attacks against the Assad regime that Islamic State in Iraq (ISI) proposed a merger.
Under his alias, Al-Julani refused, and the two terrorist groups had a very public falling-out, after which al-Nusra fought a successful campaign to minimise Islamic State influence in NW Syria.
Al-Nusra also fought with Al Qaeda in 2016 and went through one of many rebrands. Rebrands and infrighting with other terrorist cells is a habit with Ahmed Hussein al-Shar’a (AKA al-Julani).
Al-Nusra reinvented itself as Jabhat Fatah al-Sham (JFS).
JFS gobbled up four other jihadi terror groups and merged with them to become HTS (remember them?) in early 2017.
Since the Russian-Turkish ceasefire in 2020, HTS has been consolidating power in NW Syria.
They cracked down on Islamic State affiliate Hurras Al-Din (HAD), who had opposed the HTS merger.
It’s rumored that HTS was behind the intelligence that allowed the US to take out HAD’s leaders in 2021.
And now, with Turkish backing, they’ve exploited the collapse of Hezbollah in Lebanon (who were, believe it or not, Assad’s allies) to overthrow the Assad regime itself.
They don’t run all of Syria, yet. Their areas of control are now hugely expanded with the collapse of Assad's forces, though.
So what does this all mean?
HTS has an administrative arm, the so-called Syrian Salvation Government (SSG).
They’ve been running NW Syria, having their own bank and oil company - probably financed by the US tax dollars.
For the leftist sob sisters on JPP, you should know that those silly "human rights" aren't really the Syrian Salvation Government's thing.
The success of HTS and the fall of Assad shows the extent of Hezbollah’s defeat in Lebanon, and the opportunity given the Lebanese government to get past the Hezbollah era.
It's probably too soon (and too complicated for armchair JPP boomers to understand) to get to grips with what the fall of Assad means.
We need Trump in office.
What's HTS? Hayat Tahrir Al-Sham means “Assembly for the Liberation of the Levant”.
They are led by Abu Muhammad al-Julani (that’s his nom de guerre - his real name is Ahmed Hussein al-Shar’a - in recent interviews he has used his real name, for reasons that will become apparent).
HTS has their origins in Al Qaeda and the Islamic State (ISIS). More about that later.
When Iraq went up in flames (2011 version) under Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi’s Islamic State of Iraq (ISI), his loyal henchman Ahmed Hussein al-Shar’a (AKA al-Julani) was sent to Syria to set up a splinter cell there, to exploit the opportunity for ISI presented by the Syrian civil war
Ahmed Hussein al-Shar’a (AKA al-Julani) is a Syrian - his nom de guerre “Julani” references the Golan Heights.
A child of the "palestinian" second intifada, he went to Iraq in 2003 to ne inculcated in terrorist tactics and was a senior player in Al Qaeda there (of course he denies that).
He was caught by the Americans in 2006 under Bush and released by Obama in 2011, at which point al-Baghdadi packed him off to Syria with a bundle of cash, probably from one of Obama's infamous pallet-fulls of dollars.
He did his evil work well.
He recruited from Al Qaeda, Islamic State, and other Islamist hardliners. One, Al-Nusra, was so successful mounting terror attacks against the Assad regime that Islamic State in Iraq (ISI) proposed a merger.
Under his alias, Al-Julani refused, and the two terrorist groups had a very public falling-out, after which al-Nusra fought a successful campaign to minimise Islamic State influence in NW Syria.
Al-Nusra also fought with Al Qaeda in 2016 and went through one of many rebrands. Rebrands and infrighting with other terrorist cells is a habit with Ahmed Hussein al-Shar’a (AKA al-Julani).
Al-Nusra reinvented itself as Jabhat Fatah al-Sham (JFS).
JFS gobbled up four other jihadi terror groups and merged with them to become HTS (remember them?) in early 2017.
Since the Russian-Turkish ceasefire in 2020, HTS has been consolidating power in NW Syria.
They cracked down on Islamic State affiliate Hurras Al-Din (HAD), who had opposed the HTS merger.
It’s rumored that HTS was behind the intelligence that allowed the US to take out HAD’s leaders in 2021.
And now, with Turkish backing, they’ve exploited the collapse of Hezbollah in Lebanon (who were, believe it or not, Assad’s allies) to overthrow the Assad regime itself.
They don’t run all of Syria, yet. Their areas of control are now hugely expanded with the collapse of Assad's forces, though.
So what does this all mean?
HTS has an administrative arm, the so-called Syrian Salvation Government (SSG).
They’ve been running NW Syria, having their own bank and oil company - probably financed by the US tax dollars.
For the leftist sob sisters on JPP, you should know that those silly "human rights" aren't really the Syrian Salvation Government's thing.
The success of HTS and the fall of Assad shows the extent of Hezbollah’s defeat in Lebanon, and the opportunity given the Lebanese government to get past the Hezbollah era.
It's probably too soon (and too complicated for armchair JPP boomers to understand) to get to grips with what the fall of Assad means.
We need Trump in office.
Diogenes
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Diogenes
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Born in 1982, the 42-year-old Jolani was raised in Mazzeh, an upscale district of Damascus, and remained good in academics. The 9/11 twin tower attacks in the US were the first episode to turn Jolani's attention towards jihadist thinking.
Jolani shared immense admiration for the attackers and began attending secretive sermons and panel discussions in marginalised suburbs of Damascus, reports the Middle East Eye.
He left Syria to join al-Qaeda in Iraq to fight the US when it invaded the country in 2003.
The terror outfit, then led by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, reportedly detained Jolani for five years and prevented his rise through the ranks of the terror outfit.
In March 2011, when ‘pro-democracy’ protests broke against Assad's rule in Syria (Thanks, Obama and Hillary), Jolani returned home and founded the Al-Nusra Front, Syria's branch of al-Qaeda.
In 2013, he refused to swear allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, who would go on to become the emir of the Islamic State group and instead pledged his loyalty to al-Qaeda's Ayman al-Zawahiri.
In 2015, Jolani claimed that he had no intention of attacking the West (Thanks, Obama) and called for Assad to be defeated.
Jolani decided to cut ties with al-Qaeda to prevent Western countries from targeting his organization. An analyst speaking to AFP described the move as strategic.
In 2017, Jolani merged with HTS and other Islamist groups in northwest Syria to bring vast areas of Idlib province that had slipped out of Assad's control. Under its watch, the HTS developed a civilian government while crushing rival groups.
HTS was accused by "rights groups" of brutal abuse against dissidents, which the UN has classified as a “war crime”.
Jolani shared immense admiration for the attackers and began attending secretive sermons and panel discussions in marginalised suburbs of Damascus, reports the Middle East Eye.
He left Syria to join al-Qaeda in Iraq to fight the US when it invaded the country in 2003.
The terror outfit, then led by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, reportedly detained Jolani for five years and prevented his rise through the ranks of the terror outfit.
In March 2011, when ‘pro-democracy’ protests broke against Assad's rule in Syria (Thanks, Obama and Hillary), Jolani returned home and founded the Al-Nusra Front, Syria's branch of al-Qaeda.
In 2013, he refused to swear allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, who would go on to become the emir of the Islamic State group and instead pledged his loyalty to al-Qaeda's Ayman al-Zawahiri.
In 2015, Jolani claimed that he had no intention of attacking the West (Thanks, Obama) and called for Assad to be defeated.
Jolani decided to cut ties with al-Qaeda to prevent Western countries from targeting his organization. An analyst speaking to AFP described the move as strategic.
In 2017, Jolani merged with HTS and other Islamist groups in northwest Syria to bring vast areas of Idlib province that had slipped out of Assad's control. Under its watch, the HTS developed a civilian government while crushing rival groups.
HTS was accused by "rights groups" of brutal abuse against dissidents, which the UN has classified as a “war crime”.
Matt Dillon
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Yeah, and ISIS will destroy it. Or whoever those yahoos are now.
Assad is not a bad leader and the policies are sound.
Diogenes
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Assad has fled. Russia has offered him asylum.
Assad is in Moscow after fleeing Syria and will be given asylum, Russian state media report
Russia was a key ally of Assad's regime - the former president and his family will now reportedly get asylum there.
www.bbc.com
Diogenes
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Timber Sycamore, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_Sycamore… the giant US intervention in Syria that hardly anyone has heard of, has finally paid off.
I do hope those involved are pleased.
Pity about all the powerless, innocent people turned into corpses or refugees, then, now and yet to come.
I do hope those involved are pleased.
Pity about all the powerless, innocent people turned into corpses or refugees, then, now and yet to come.
Diogenes
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Israeli Ground Forces Cross into Syria, Officials Say
Israeli ground forces have overtly crossed into Syrian territory for the first time since the 1973 October War, passing the demilitarized border zone, two Israeli officials said.
Israeli Ground Forces Cross into Syria, Officials Say
Israeli ground forces have overtly crossed into Syrian territory for the first time since the 1973 October War, passing the demilitarized border zone, two Israeli officials said.
T. A. Gardner
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And...
Yet another black eye for the Biden administration in foreign policy.
Yet another black eye for the Biden administration in foreign policy.
Diogenes
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Russian forces are reportedly pulling out of Syria.
I suspect that they will be on the front lines, defending their own country, and killing lots of Ukrainians before long.
These appear to be the seasoned Russian troops who've seen combat before, not conscripts.
Zelenskyy better ask President Trump to help him make a deal soon, methinks.
I suspect that they will be on the front lines, defending their own country, and killing lots of Ukrainians before long.
These appear to be the seasoned Russian troops who've seen combat before, not conscripts.
Zelenskyy better ask President Trump to help him make a deal soon, methinks.
This is a success for the Imperial Empire.
Diogenes
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Mostly Obama retreads. This is the end result of the disastrous Middle East policy that led to Benghazi.