Teachers & Guns? Seriously?

Leonthecat said:
There was a gun present. The zone was not "gun free".
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Again, feel free to take it up with the Congressmen who named the law back in 1990. There is a general understanding among people with even half a brain of the meaning of the term. I'm sorry if it's too difficult of a concept for you. Or do you actually believe your word parsing makes you look intelligent?

Also, are you admitting that laws prohibiting bringing guns into some places don't work because killers will ignore those laws?
 
Leonthecat said:
And the "good guy with a gun" plan could be called a failure.
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The good guy with a gun concept isn't going to be 100% effective, I don't think anyone believes it would. The fact that it didn't work in one particular case doesn't invalidate the concept as a whole. Part of the concept is deterrence, I assume you are familiar?
 
Sirthinksalot said:
Again, feel free to take it up with the Congressmen who named the law back in 1990. There is a general understanding among people with even half a brain of the meaning of the term. I'm sorry if it's too difficult of a concept for you. Or do you actually believe your word parsing makes you look intelligent?

Also, are you admitting that laws prohibiting bringing guns into some places don't work because killers will ignore those laws?
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More guns is the problem, not the solution.
Florida figured that out.
 
"Didn't the bill they just passed authorize more armed security at schools?" Sl #408
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Did it fully fund such security, for the entire State? "Authorization" is a booger-flick without fully funding the means to implement it. I'm authorized to vacation on Mars. Don't expect any souvenirs.
"18 to 20 Year olds can no longer buy or own a firearm in Florida.
That will put fewer guns in the hands of fewer Floridians." Lc #409
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Is there any valid statistical evidence that the age range being discriminated against here is DISPROPORTIONATELY prone to such lawlessness?

Last I heard Earth was infested with Humans, and that there was a population explosion. I once read, there are more humans alive today, than have died.

The age range selected may be the most populous 3 year age range in the adult population, despite the post-WWII baby-boom population bulge.

Where is the statistical evidence that this specific segment of the population is a disproportionate risk?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Why is it when you can't disprove what I say factually and logically, you spew forth stupidity instead of just conceding a point? Here's how I answered the other dope:

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...06#post2253706
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that's not a fucking answer, it's your delusions of fantasy that people are just incompetent boobs. I think it's your own projection, but whatever.
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translation: it's not the answer STY wants to hear because the links I provided contain and refer to ACTUAL CASES. Here are more examples of situations to what dummies like STY want to introduce guns to. :palm:

http://www.11alive.com/video/news/crime/multiple-teachers-accused-of-assaulting-students/85-2607081

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...cused-of-assaulting-student-who-wouldnt-stand
 
sear said:
Did it fully fund such security, for the entire State? "Authorization" is a booger-flick without fully funding the means to implement it. I'm authorized to vacation on Mars. Don't expect any souvenirs.

Is there any valid statistical evidence that the age range being discriminated against here is DISPROPORTIONATELY prone to such lawlessness?

Last I heard Earth was infested with Humans, and that there was a population explosion. I once read, there are more humans alive today, than have died.

The age range selected may be the most populous 3 year age range in the adult population, despite the post-WWII baby-boom population bulge.

Where is the statistical evidence that this specific segment of the population is a disproportionate risk?
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Seems when you can't mount a logical, fact based retort you just babble nonsensical supposition and conjecture.
 
TOP said:
Really...he didn't think that one through at all...
(In our building we have a single entrance, locked, and everyone shows ID when they come in. Checked by the resource officer (alumni-former Marine). We also have another resource officers who roam the building...works fine. No metal detector....that would be a nice addition, though.)
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Murphy's Laws of Combat: The harder you make it for them to get in, the harder it is for you to get out.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
No, they are not. My daughter buys classroom supplies -- the posters and teaching things fastened to the classroom walls, dry erase markers, teaching toys and activities (she teaches early childhood special ed 3-5 yr olds), books for the little "library" in her classroom, etc. She also buys paper towels, Kleenex, cleaning supplies, Germ-X, etc. The school and the parents furnish none of that.
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It's sad that teachers have to shell out money from their own pockets to teach the nation's greatest resource.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
It's sad that teachers have to shell out money from their own pockets to teach the nation's greatest resource.
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It is. But then from the parents' point of view, the schools are asking them to furnish all the stuff that used to be part of the learning materials. I can see requiring pencils, markers/crayons, glue/paste, rulers, etc. But when your kid's required materials list costs $75 or $100, it's gotten out of hand. That's why my daughter (and other teachers too) end up spending their own money because not all the parents can afford that stuff. I spent $250 just this past semester on her classroom needs; I have no clue what SHE spent but it was way more than that.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
It is. But then from the parents' point of view, the schools are asking them to furnish all the stuff that used to be part of the learning materials. I can see requiring pencils, markers/crayons, glue/paste, rulers, etc. But when your kid's required materials list costs $75 or $100, it's gotten out of hand. That's why my daughter (and other teachers too) end up spending their own money because not all the parents can afford that stuff. I spent $250 just this past semester on her classroom needs; I have no clue what SHE spent but it was way more than that.
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How the fuck do you spend $250 for one semester's worth of "class room needs"?:

Pencil, paper, sit down, shut up and listen. Only talk when questions are allowed. :)
 
Dutch Uncle said:
How the fuck do you spend $250 for one semester's worth of "class room needs"?:

Pencil, paper, sit down, shut up and listen. Only talk when questions are allowed. :)
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LOL... she teaches special ed/early childhood children ages 3-5. Her classroom is a huge open area that she has sectioned off into small areas by using bookcases, storage units, and other things. The school provides a lot of that stuff; she buys books, other educational materials, and endless supplies like markers, paper, etc. as well as music, toys, and that kind of thing. The kids often have physical disabilities too including needing to still have diapers. The parents supply those but she keeps clean clothes in different sizes on hand just in case.
 
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