Teacher's neck broken over iPod...

That is not waht he is saying at all AHZ. I understood what He said...

With that said there is a very small group of people with Tourettes syndrome, and other physical disorders of the brain that prevent them from controlling their behaviour.
This was stated as a limiting disclaimer just to keep ya honest.

Most of the ones I think most of us are refferring to those that were never taught how to behave. In that case their parents should have to take their punishment along with the children.
 
To be fair and all...

uscitizen said:
That is not waht he is saying at all AHZ. I understood what He said...

With that said there is a very small group of people with Tourettes syndrome, and other physical disorders of the brain that prevent them from controlling their behaviour.
This was stated as a limiting disclaimer just to keep ya honest.

Most of the ones I think most of us are refferring to those that were never taught how to behave. In that case their parents should have to take their punishment along with the children.
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Some of the blame also should be placed on immature and perverted teachers as well...just check the natioanl news on teachers perversion and all!;)
 
Yep there are some sick teachers out there, there are also some sick troops in Iraq, but they are in the vast minority. We should not judge the whole barrel by one bad apple, just get the bad ones out.

I would be totally insane putting up with todays youngsters in a school environment....Not allowed to discipline, the parent is always right, etc...
 
OrnotBitwise said:
"Habits?" Personality is much more than just a collection of habits. You cannot say with any certainty that the "habits" of childhood can be unlearned by the adult. We are not infinitely maleable.
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If this were true then there would be no call to provide help for those with addictions, a much more difficult change than most. Change at the age of adult has to be conscious decision, but there most certainly can be change.
 
Damocles said:
If this were true then there would be no call to provide help for those with addictions, a much more difficult change than most. Change at the age of adult has to be conscious decision, but there most certainly can be change.
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Of course there *can* be change. Whenever did I say that there could not? It's not just a matter of will, however. that's why I dislike emphasizing the need for choice.

I may make jokes about psychotherapy -- and I do, often -- but I don't dismiss the need for it. It's a legitimate medical practice, even if it is all too easily lampooned.
 
OrnotBitwise said:
Of course there *can* be change. Whenever did I say that there could not? It's not just a matter of will, however. that's why I dislike emphasizing the need for choice.

I may make jokes about psychotherapy -- and I do, often -- but I don't dismiss the need for it. It's a legitimate medical practice, even if it is all too easily lampooned.
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So with baby murder,, you're pro choice, but with intellectual freedom and education, you're anti-choice.
 
I may make jokes about psychotherapy -- and I do, often -- but I don't dismiss the need for it. It's a legitimate medical practice, even if it is all too easily lampooned.

Everyone makes jokes about psychotherapy, Freud is the best fiction writer since JRR Tolkien....

Psychologists too, though for a different reason. Over classification. Trying to make straight lines and put everything in little boxes.

Be suspicious of both groups....
 
If this were true then there would be no call to provide help for those with addictions, a much more difficult change than most.

Not too sure that you will ever change an addiction, you can control it, and sometimes control it very effectively, but the addiction is always there...

Ask an ex-smoker.....
 
yes, it is discrimination based on behavior, which is fully under an individual's control, unlike his race.

This is an unsubstantiated statement, with no reasoning to back it up.

The extent to which social conditioning and genetics affect behaviour need to be considered.

To say an individual can have such control over their behaviour is akin to saying an individual's will is free....
 
AnyOldIron said:
yes, it is discrimination based on behavior, which is fully under an individual's control, unlike his race.

This is an unsubstantiated statement, with no reasoning to back it up.

The extent to which social conditioning and genetics affect behaviour need to be considered.

To say an individual can have such control over their behaviour is akin to saying an individual's will is free....
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Yes. an individual's will is free.
 
Anyolds path to totalitarianism:

There is no free will.

without free will, there can be no accountability.

Unaccountable people must be managed in a totalitarian, paternalistic fashion..


thus, civilized man is reduced to an animal by degrees, through anyold's ridiculous worldview.
 
uscitizen said:
Humans are Animals....
Are we vegetable or mineral ?
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He is speaking of level of responsibility. If one has no will of their own, there is no possible way to hold them accountable for their actions. All actions would be 'instinct' and thus impossible to override. This would render humans to the level of responsibility of a non-human animal.
 
Damocles said:
He is speaking of level of responsibility. If one has no will of their own, there is no possible way to hold them accountable for their actions. All actions would be 'instinct' and thus impossible to override. This would render humans to the level of responsibility of a non-human animal.
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Yes, Just yanking his chain a bit ;)
But unfortuantely too many "humans" function more as animals in many aspects of their life than as thinking humans...

If we humans had thought a bit instead of running on fear and revenge driven emotions we would not be in Iraq now....
 
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