if so, it would be a serious waste of time
Tell atheists to shut it in a constitutional way!
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if so, it would be a serious waste of time
Not any more "right" than the attempt to force them out of public life by forcing them to follow yours.
Again, forcing people of belief to follow your particular "what they need" decisions is doing exactly what you speak out against. Let them speak to whatever invisible friend they think is necessary, how does that take any skin off your nose? You don't even have to bow your head... really. Nobody is going to arrest you if you silently dance a jig to the little gods, draw a picture or even read a book while they talk to their invisible pal.
what i object to most is the waste of my and others time while some choose to exercise their rituals
if i am at a political meeting, then that is the only thing that should be addressed...perhaps the others that feel the need to make some observance, do so outside before the meeting
And what they object to is your insistence that they must respect your beliefs while you tell them they must hide theirs.
Again, the insistence that the world must align itself to what you believe. If they believe differently than DQ, they should hide that somewhere where it won't bother DQ. Shame on them...
Maybe you can enter the meeting a bit later, or, as I said, read a book and prepare. Nobody forces you to waste that time, you do that on your own.
you consistently ignore my thoughts about the waste of time
as for spitting on their beliefs, where do you get that?
if it is their need for rituals, let them perform them outside or some place other than the political meeting
besides, do not most followers of a deity think that their deity is with them always
Except I don't. I specifically mention them and give a solution.
Nothing about spitting in the post, only about hiding. They must hide to make you feel comforted.
Again, your insistence they must hide from you and respect your belief, because only yours count.
Who cares, other than you insisting they respect your belief system and that you cannot be bothered to respect theirs, what they
Again, why does it matter to you what they believe or if they dance in a cabal before getting down to business? If you are forced to participate then you'd have a point, but you are not. You can read notes and prepare while they perform, nobody forces you to even pay attention.
You simply want the rest of the world to conform to your system of belief for your comfort, and in insisting they do you hypocritically do exactly what you say they should not but are not doing. They do not insist you participate or care, you however want to force them to only participate according to your morality.
if you are paying to participate in a political meeting (time is money), then why should a person have their money wasted by somebodies non-political rituals
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It takes all of five seconds to give the invocation DQ. Particularly when meetings typically open with the rap of a gavel and the words "I hearby call this meeting to order at --time-- on --date--." This is a slightly shorter invocation than the religious "I hearby call this meeting to order at --time-- on --date-- in the Year of Our Lord, 2013." Also, the whole Ano Domini language appears is our Constitution, so it's not really a stretch.
tell that to scotus and check out their answer
fyi, the growing common usage is BCE (before common era) and CE (common era)...at least among scientists, but also others - and in case you have not noticed, not everyone uses the gregorian calender, not even all 'christians'
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Not using the Gregorian Calendar would be inconvenient. It is pretty funny that the Muslim calendar places them in the 1400s right now, which is very fitting.
People who refuse to say BC and AD have got issues. I think they're living in BC, which actually means they're worse off than the Muslims.
People who refuse to say BC and AD have got issues. I think they're living in BC, which actually means they're worse off than the Muslims.
what about the jewish calendar and you still have not noticed that some christians do not use the gregorian calendar
some religions/nations use a lunar calendar instead of a solar calendar...like china
Scientists have issues? lol!
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When the Gregorian Calendar was adopted, we were using the Julian Calendar. We only adopted the Gregorian because the Julian was beginning to show enough flaws that we needed an adjustment. I don't think many people are keen on simply dropping 2013 AD, and switching to some random other dating system, just so anti-Christian radicals such as you can have some satisfaction that you pissed a few more people off, Don.
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Scientists are doing something that they aren't supposed to do - they're pretending. Tell me, Rana, what does the beginning of CE just happen to coincide with? Are scientists from non-Western countries feeling included, because I'm certain their cultures see nothing Common about this Common Era we are living in. For fuck sake, when we first began using CE, it meant Christian Era, in preparation for arbitrarily moving it to Common Era when no one was looking.
Speaking of make-believe, it's The Worst Day of the Year! Don't forget to set your clock forward one hour and pretend it's that time for the next six months.
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I doubt the students will notice, they weren't learning history very well when we were still using AD.
i know the difference between the julian and gregorian calendars and why the switch
however, why do you call me an anti-christian radical?
i prefer an accurate solar calendar to an inaccurate solar calendar
however, whether or not a person prefers a solar to a lunar calendar is their business - fyi, the jewish calendar is not only a lunar calendar, but goes back over 7000 years
oth, i do rather enjoy 'pissing' you off...you respond so predictably
and if the gregorian calendar is so good, why does easter float around, could it be that easter was determined by the lunar jewish calendar...along with passover
my question for you is why you prefer bc/ad to bce/ce - is it because you prefer to proselytize christianity (your version that is)?
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I prefer not to institute arbitrary timing devices, whether it be dropping AD for CE (and pretending it's something different) or playing the stupid clock game with Daylight Savings every six months. The BC/AD usage came first Don, hence the proselytizing play is in your court. Nothing changed physically, as it is 2013 in both systems, and both are based upon the Christian experience.
Does it really matter that Easter floats around? Lunar calendars are inferior, and have no practical use in the modern world. I am perfectly fine with relying on them occasionally for religious purposes. The Gregorian Calendar is only off by a fraction of a day, and I actually enjoy Leap Years when they come around. February is a short month, anyway.
Does it really matter that Easter floats around? Lunar calendars are inferior, and have no practical use in the modern world. I am perfectly fine with relying on them occasionally for religious purposes. The Gregorian Calendar is only off by a fraction of a day, and I actually enjoy Leap Years when they come around. February is a short month, anyway.
3d, i too prefer a solar calendar for its accuracy with the occasional correction
also, i too wish that the government would get rid of daylight 'savings' time since it produces no actual savings
regarding the bc/ad bce/ce change, there are far more non-christians than christians in the world
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Why does it bother you so? They changed it to be less offensive to the very large number of people who don't think Jesus is Lord.