The 2'nd Amendment ONLY applies to Americans in the military (full-time or reserves)

[Lao Tse]

Interest rates have been dropping for 700 years. The rate has been long term consistent. It has dropped an average of 0.016% per year. The Federal Reserve would need to have invented time travel to do that.

Beyond that, we know that if there is cheating over the long term in the economy it shows itself one way or another. If government borrows money that is not there, interest rates have to go up to get the money. If the government has to print money to make up for a lack of borrowing, then inflation goes up, and interest rates go up. There is no secret way around this.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-d...yields-have-fallen-with-metronomic-regularity

recently though the powers that be have been massively printing but STILL KEEPING THE INTEREST RATE LOW, so corporate borrowing can simulate good times.

kenyesian economists are responsible for this mess.

they believe the power of printing money and directing it's expenditure is an unconditional good. they're power freaks. they shuttle most of the fake money into the military industrial complex so people are afraid to tell them "no".

 

[Walt]

The long term trend is a glut of savings driving down interest rates and inflation.

recently though the powers that be have been massively printing but STILL KEEPING THE INTEREST RATE LOW, so corporate borrowing can stimulate good times.

First off, recently is not the long term trend, but we can change the subject.

Almost every central bank on earth is raising interest rates trying desperately from letting their currency devalue to the Dollar. The Dollar is strong, and only getting stronger compared to other currencies. The world is desperately rising interest rates...

And the Fed is not an exception. The Fed has committed to getting inflation back to 2%, and has been raising interest rates at the fastest rate in over 40 years. It is willing to raise interest rates to any height, and cause any amount of suffering.

kenyesian economists are responsible for this mess.

Keynesian economics is the only reason we can hit a 2% inflation rate.

they believe the power of printing money and directing it's expenditure is an unconditional good.

That is untrue. Keynesian economists believe there should be stimulus during the bad times, but the opposite of stimulus during the good times to keep the economy from overheating. They believe money should be encouraged to be created when there is deflation, and discouraged from being created when there is high inflation.

 

[Lao Tse]

First off, recently is not the long term trend, but we can change the subject.

Almost every central bank on earth is raising interest rates trying desperately from letting their currency devalue to the Dollar. The Dollar is strong, and only getting stronger compared to other currencies. The world is desperately rising interest rates...

And the Fed is not an exception. The Fed has committed to getting inflation back to 2%, and has been raising interest rates at the fastest rate in over 40 years. It is willing to raise interest rates to any height, and cause any amount of suffering.



Keynesian economics is the only reason we can hit a 2% inflation rate.



That is untrue. Keynesian economists believe there should be stimulus during the bad times, but the opposite of stimulus during the good times to keep the economy from overheating. They believe money should be encouraged to be created when there is deflation, and discouraged from being created when there is high inflation.

no.

keynesianism causes inflation, central planning fake money banker terrorist.

 

[Walt]

no. keynesianism causes inflation, central planning fake money banker terrorist.

We had a 40 year stretch of low inflation with Keynesian Economics. Pre-Keynesian Economics did not care about inflation, or worse yet deflation.

 

[Lao Tse]

We had a 40 year stretch of low inflation with Keynesian Economics. Pre-Keynesian Economics did not care about inflation, or worse yet deflation.

The government regularly lies about inflation.

 

[Walt]

The government regularly lies about inflation.

Inflation is the most obvious fact even if the government lies about it, so I simply do not believe you.

 

[Lao Tse]

Inflation is the most obvious fact even if the government lies about it, so I simply do not believe you.

that makes no sense.

inflation is obvious, so therefore the government doesn't lie?

that's fucking retarded.

You're an idiot, walter, truly.

the official inflation number leaves out food and fuel. choke on it.

 

[Into the Night]

First off, recently is not the long term trend, but we can change the subject.

Almost every central bank on earth is raising interest rates trying desperately from letting their currency devalue to the Dollar. The Dollar is strong, and only getting stronger compared to other currencies. The world is desperately rising interest rates...

And the Fed is not an exception. The Fed has committed to getting inflation back to 2%, and has been raising interest rates at the fastest rate in over 40 years. It is willing to raise interest rates to any height, and cause any amount of suffering.



Keynesian economics is the only reason we can hit a 2% inflation rate.



That is untrue. Keynesian economists believe there should be stimulus during the bad times, but the opposite of stimulus during the good times to keep the economy from overheating. They believe money should be encouraged to be created when there is deflation, and discouraged from being created when there is high inflation.

This is fascism. It is government manipulation of money markets. It is also the direct cause of inflation.

There's a reason fiat money is unconstitutional.

 

[Into the Night]

We had a 40 year stretch of low inflation with Keynesian Economics. Pre-Keynesian Economics did not care about inflation, or worse yet deflation.

Bullshit. Printing money without a corresponding increase in wealth created through capitalism is the direct cause of inflation. You can't printer your way to prosperity. Apparently you choose to ignore what happened to the Frank, the Mark, the Peso, and the Yen. All currencies that collapsed, due to overprinting.

 

[Into the Night]

Inflation is the most obvious fact even if the government lies about it, so I simply do not believe you.

Paradox. Irrational.

 

[Walt]

the official inflation number leaves out food and fuel. choke on it.

You are just lying again. Inflation numbers include food and fuel. Then there are Core Inflation numbers, which take out the food and fuel from the Inflation numbers, but the Inflation numbers still exist, with food and fuel included. They are public, and widely reported.

You're an idiot, walter, truly.

What does it say about modern conservative thought that its supporters need lies and personal attacks to support it?

 

[RB 60]

What does any of the last pages of bullshit have to do with the 2nd. Amendment?

 

[Lao Tse]

You are just lying again. Inflation numbers include food and fuel. Then there are Core Inflation numbers, which take out the food and fuel from the Inflation numbers, but the Inflation numbers still exist, with food and fuel included. They are public, and widely reported.



What does it say about modern conservative thought that its supporters need lies and personal attacks to support it?

cpi does not include food and fuel.

 

[Walt]

cpi does not include food and fuel.

Yes, but inflation does include food and fuel. See how that works?

 

[Lao Tse]

Yes, but inflation does include food and fuel. See how that works?

cpi is the official stat. the official stat is a lie, basically.

that's the point here, garbage-minded spiritual retard.

 

[Walt]

cpi is the official stat.

Inflation is the primary official number, with CPI being a derivative official number. The fact remains that we know the inflation rate including food and fuel. If anything, it is more publicized than the CPI.

the official stat is a lie, basically.

Somehow you believe them telling the truth makes it a lie.

 

[Lao Tse]

Inflation is the primary official number, with CPI being a derivative official number. The fact remains that we know the inflation rate including food and fuel. If anything, it is more publicized than the CPI.



Somehow you believe them telling the truth makes it a lie.

cpi has always been the official reference number, and it is fraudulent, not including food and fuel.

stop lying, fuckheel.

 

[Walt]

cpi has always been the official reference number, and it is fraudulent, not including food and fuel.

I am sorry, I made a mistake. CPI includes food and fuel. It is Core Inflation that excludes food and fuel. Just woke up, on a different sleep schedule, and still letting my morning tea take effect.

In fact, SNAP COLA CPI only takes into account food, for obvious reasons. Social Security COLA CPI takes everything into account.

Inflation includes food and fuel. Core Inflation excludes food and fuel, but if you do not want to use that, Inflation is still out there, well publicized.

 

[Lao Tse]

I am sorry, I made a mistake. CPI includes food and fuel. It is Core Inflation that excludes food and fuel. Just woke up, on a different sleep schedule, and still letting my morning tea take effect.

In fact, SNAP COLA CPI only takes into account food, for obvious reasons. Social Security COLA CPI takes everything into account.

Inflation includes food and fuel. Core Inflation excludes food and fuel, but if you do not want to use that, Inflation is still out there, well publicized.

no it doesn't.