The 2'nd Amendment ONLY applies to Americans in the military (full-time or reserves)

McRocket said:
If you just read the OP...that explains it.
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TL; DR OP

Jesus fucking Christ, the Second Amendment was one paragraph. Your version looks like something a high school junior would write for extra credit.
Maybe you'll learn succinctness in college. :thup:
 
McRocket said:
If you just read the OP...that explains it.
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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State

That's pretty clear by itself. No law passed in 1956 will change that.

the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

That's also clear. It's TWO separate things and can be associated with each other.

A small community can form a small militia in case SHTF according to the 2nd Amendment.

When our government collapses, who do we rely on?
 
AProudLefty said:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State

That's pretty clear by itself. No law passed in 1956 will change that.

the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

That's also clear. It's TWO separate things and can be associated with each other.

A small community can form a small militia in case SHTF according to the 2nd Amendment.

When our government collapses, who do we rely on?
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Agreed. A militia addresses concerns protecting the autonomy and security of each state plus the concern about Federal overreach. It was a given that citizens had a right to self-defense, but since a militia required firearms, they put the firearms in writing.
 
AProudLefty said:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State

That's pretty clear by itself. No law passed in 1956 will change that.

the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

That's also clear. It's TWO separate things and can be associated with each other.

A small community can form a small militia in case SHTF according to the 2nd Amendment.

When our government collapses, who do we rely on?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_Act_of_1903

https://www.loc.gov/resource/rbc0001.2012yapam90993/?sp=2

'The Militia Act of 1903

'The first section reiterates the law of 1793, that the militia shall consist of every able-bodied citizen between eighteen and forty-five, and divides the militia into two classes — the organized militia or National Guard, and the unorganized or reserve militia.
The third section defines the " organized militia " as the regu- larly enlisted, organized, and uniformed militia which shall here- after participate in the annual militia appropriation (heretofore only one million a year). It gives the President authority to fix the minimum number of enlisted men in each company.''
https://archive.org/details/jstor-25119439/page/n1/mode/2up


And saying that nothing passed since the 2nd Amendment was written can change or clarify what what the latter mean?
Come on now?
You cannot actually believe that?
I thought you were smarter than that?
 
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Dutch Uncle said:
TL; DR OP

Jesus fucking Christ, the Second Amendment was one paragraph. Your version looks like something a high school junior would write for extra credit.
Maybe you'll learn succinctness in college. :thup:
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Maybe you will learn what 'trolling' means?

Why don't you go and feed your cats?

That is one thing I assume you are good at.
 
AProudLefty said:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State

That's pretty clear by itself. No law passed in 1956 will change that.

the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

That's also clear. It's TWO separate things and can be associated with each other.

A small community can form a small militia in case SHTF according to the 2nd Amendment.

When our government collapses, who do we rely on?
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Depends on who has control of the big toys. A little gun isn’t going to do much against a drone.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed. A militia addresses concerns protecting the autonomy and security of each state plus the concern about Federal overreach. It was a given that citizens had a right to self-defense, but since a militia required firearms, they put the firearms in writing.
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To me it's pretty clear that the militia and the people are one and the same. If "the people" want to organize a militia, they are free to do so. They are not a threat to the government.

In a nutshell, the militia are the people and the people are the militia.

Tell me if I am wrong.
 
McRocket said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_Act_of_1903

https://www.loc.gov/resource/rbc0001.2012yapam90993/?sp=2
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Is he Nicholas Cage?

Charles_W._F._Dick_1903.jpg
 
AProudLefty said:
To me it's pretty clear that the militia and the people are one and the same. If "the people" want to organize a militia, they are free to do so. They are not a threat to the government.

In a nutshell, the militia are the people and the people are the militia.

Tell me if I am wrong.
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You're not wrong. The First Amendment allows freedom of association. The Second Amendment says they can do it with arms.

That said, guns are not restricted to a militia. The right of citizens to have arms is essential to a community being able to form a militia.
 
McRocket said:
Maybe you will learn what 'trolling' means?

Why don't you go and feed your cats?

That is one thing I assume you are good at.
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The Butthurt is strong in you, son. If you want to be a success in life, grow a thicker skin.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
I'd be impressed if you could explain in a clear and concise manner what that link means in support of your position. TIA but I won't hold my breath. :)
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No....the truth is that you cannot read anything that is too long.
You have stated it - in essence - many times.

If you are not bright/educated enough to digest long text?
Or you have ADHD?

That is neither my problem nor my concern.

By Troll.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
The Butthurt is strong in you, son. If you want to be a success in life, grow a thicker skin.
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LOL...says the man who freaks out when someone calls him a 'lefty'.

Whatever pal.

I hear your cats calling...why don't you go and feed your sole reason for living.

Bye now.
 
McRocket said:
No....the truth is that you cannot read anything that is too long.
You have stated it - in essence - many times.

If you are not bright/educated enough to digest long text?
Or you have ADHD?

That is neither my problem nor my concern.

By Troll.
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Clearly you can't do it. That's okay. I never thought you could. Since you are unable to converse on the topic in a calm, intelligent manner, I'll leave you alone.
 
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