Now I’m like Stalin?
Remember the Soup Nazi? “No soup for you!”
Think of me the same way. “No guns for you!”
the AR-15 follies: Here we go again!
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Now I’m like Stalin?
Remember the Soup Nazi? “No soup for you!”
Think of me the same way. “No guns for you!”
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Yep, right up to Jan. 6th, that cost a woman her life, along with a DC cop just doing his job. Now they get to live the part of the movie where the insurrectionists are hunted down and jailed...with the majority of Americans rooting for the cops. As the old saying goes, be careful what you wish for.
Now I’m like Stalin?
Remember the Soup Nazi? “No soup for you!”
Think of me the same way. “No guns for you!”
Umm...are you okay? You seem a bit irrational today. More than usual. Why do you think "more like" is equal to "like"? Is it a language thing? An ideological thing? A psychological thing? I'm genuinely curious.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
And there lies the rub.....when it's convenient the gunners would classify those weapons on the list as 'handguns', but once off the list they change their tune and have no problem as to how they are marketed by the retailers. Hell, some gunners are in denial or ignorant of what the AR-15 was originally designed for.And spare us all this tired mantra that guns are not the whole problem. Hell, the GOP fights to defund any social programs that would address proverty, treatment for mental health, etc. They bitch about "entitlements", yet turn a blind eye to the FACT that the desperate, the criminal and the emotional/mentally defecive will turn to weapons that make it easier for them to lash out or take advantage of society. The AR-15 was designed as a military weapon TO KILL PEOPLE. Its versatility, good trigger action and accuracy suits most well for the non-professional...and it's been the weapon of choice for the majority of mass shootings in the last 30 years or so (or a similar assault weapon that was on the 1994 AWB list). A matter of fact, a matter of history whether you accept it or not.
You need to do more research, the weapon of choice for mass shootings is a handgun, I have posted links showing just that. It is that when someone uses an AR everyone makes a big deal out of the firearm used. Funny how that was Not the case in the shooting in Georgia the week before when the shooter killed 8 people with a handgun. You probably mean well, but before wading into this topic too deep you should do some more reading and learn more about the topic.
Data is showing up that most Qanon followers were nutjobs. Why don't Democrats care about mental health care over gun suicides?
https://theconversation.com/many-qanon-followers-report-having-mental-health-diagnoses-157299
many QAnon followers revealed – in their own words on social media or in interviews – a wide range of mental health diagnoses, including bipolar disorder, depression, anxiety and addiction.
In court records of QAnon followers arrested in the wake of the Capitol insurrection, 68% reported they had received mental health diagnoses. The conditions they revealed included post-traumatic stress disorder, bipolar disorder, paranoid schizophrenia and Munchausen syndrome by proxy – a psychological disorder that causes one to invent or inflict health problems on a loved one, usually a child, in order to gain attention for themselves. By contrast, 19% of all Americans have a mental health diagnosis.
Among QAnon insurrectionists with criminal records, 44% experienced a serious psychological trauma that preceded their radicalization, such as physical or sexual abuse of them or of their children.
Okay, so we all know that Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa went postal in Boulder, CO grocery store this pas Monday. He killed a bunch of people before getting shot by the cops and surrendering. So far, the cops are saying it doesn't look like a American got "radicalized" by Islamic extremism. Instead, according to family and friends, the guy seems to be 1 brick shy of a load. The kicker is just 4 days before junior went off the very ban on the weapon he used was over turned by the district courts.
Now on one end you have the gun control folk and Democratic majority banging the table saying, "See! Get these damned things (assault weapons, i.e. the AR-15 type rifles) out of general population circulation! Ban them! "
On the other end you have the 2nd Amendment folk and Republican majority banging the table saying, "See! Muslim extremists/terrorists are here! It's not the guns, it's them!"
My take is this: If junior had no criminal record or official record of psychological problems, a 7 day waiting period for a background check wouldn't have made a difference. He would have every legal right under Colorado law to buy that weapon. You can only go far in trying to legislate against crazy.
BUT
Once again, the weapon of choice for mass shooters is the AR-15....a sweet little versatile weapon that does EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED FOR....ASSAULTING AND KILLING PEOPLE WITH ACCURACY (as much as the user can apply). Now people will debate until doomsday as to whether the same amount of damage could have been done with other types of rifles or a handgun (or handguns).
BUT
We will NEVER know if the AR-15 is available to ANYONE, ANY TIME, ANY WHERE.
And the band played on.
Sometimes a waiting period will allow people time to change their minds. He might have gotten laid that week or won a lotto.
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
Oom, what is your obsession with suicide?
Don't people know when they've had enough?
Have you ever heard about valuing life in qualitative rather than absolute terms?
That's why I believe in humane euthanasia instead of lengthy prison sentences.
Life isn't always good, Oom.
To many, it's more imposition than gift.
Sorry, but I really don't get what you're going on about.
Don't people know when they've had enough?
Have you ever heard about valuing life in qualitative rather than absolute terms?
That's why I believe in humane euthanasia instead of lengthy prison sentences.
Life isn't always good, Oom.
To many, it's more imposition than gift.
Sorry, but I really don't get what you're going on about.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
yep, jobs like HS, FBI, NSA, ATF ... all applicants family and friends get that knock on the door. Gun background checks don't go that far.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Define "military type assault weapons" since the only military weapons I have are bolt action rifles and one semi-automatic pistol. The rest are all civilian manufacture for the civilian market.
Thanks for confirming you want to ban guns.....just not all guns.....yet.
I don't know. Ask a fucking teabagger.
The AR-15 was DESIGNED AS A MILITARY ASSAULT WEAPON. A matter of fact, a matter of history that gunners just refuse to accept.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
that's the best you've got? No concede to the point, just a picayune bitching? Jeez Dutch, you're slipp'in!
They need to.
So? It's not one. It's a civilian semi-automatic rifle. Are you upset because it's semi-automatic or because of its history? It's "genetics" so to speak?
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Your first sentence just trys to blow smoke and fails. If you can't logically or factually address the points I made, don't try to dodge with some generalize reference to another thread. Specifics, Dutch, specifics. A link, a quote or original response here will do. Other wise, man up and concede a point.
Your second sentence is just more smoke from you. I was VERY SPECIFIC in pointing out why you essentially were wrong. That you have no logical or rational defense and fall back on this lame ass Rush Limbaugh/Sean Hannity/Candace Owens/Mike Levine clap trap is pathetic. Your "guess" work is wrong, as any objective reader can see. Carry on.
If you would provide some facts about crime dropping after 9/11, but that's not what I was referencing when I said it could easily take 30 minutes for a response to a 911 call where I live.
Why would you want to see my wife defenseless against attackers? Or anyone else? Why are you so cruel and heartless to leave women defenseless just because they don't live in the city with an honest police officer on every street corner waiting to help them?
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
what's really sick is that gunners are essentially telling Americans, "So what if some yahoos kill 10 or more people at a clip? It's less than suicide by guns, so buck up and take the risk because it hasn't happend to me or mine, and even if I don't own one, that weapons shouldn't be taken off the shelves just beause it bothers my mental comfort zone".
god damned sick socipathic clods.....the gun manufacturers/retailers make money, the politicians that take their money get re-elected, and another mass shooting is just around the corner. God indeed bless America, because we need all the help we can get!
what's really sick is that gunners are essentially telling Americans, "So what if some yahoos kill 10 or more people at a clip? It's less than suicide by guns, so buck up and take the risk because it hasn't happend to me or mine, and even if I don't own one, that weapons shouldn't be taken off the shelves just beause it bothers my mental comfort zone".
That's one view point.
Another viewpoint is a dystopian society like THX 1138 where everything is same and controlled "for the children".
“No guns for you!”
Thanks for proving you really do want to ban all guns simply by labeling them "weapons of war".
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Skinner didn’t appear forceful, but I concluded he was playing with the human mind in my brief exposure with his work.
I read I, Robot in junior high school, but I was much more into the books of J Krishnamurti, “Think on These Things” and “The Awakening of Intelligence” .. changed my life at an early age.