The Big Lie, Goebbels and Trump.

PoliTalker said:
Hello signalmankenneth



Trump has hurt America in so many ways. He is a divider and a radicalizer. He uses people.

One of the biggest harms done to the country was screwing up the pandemic response. That got thousands of Americans needlessly killed by spreading false rumors which caused many to make the wrong vaccine choice - none.

Another way Trump hurt America, and this really drove a wedge into the already bitter politics, was to tell The Big Lie, throwing confusion into an already hotly contested election. We had a good result, it withstood all the legal challenges; and the window for making challenges expired. Trump was told all of this, but he knew he could throw the whole nation ichaos by telling his supporters to refuse to accept the results and fight to overturn the free and fair election.

The damage is ongoing.
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Indeed. It was not only about staying in power, it was about the grift. Many entities raised money off twump's lie.
 
Hello Lurch,

LurchAddams said:
Indeed. It was not only about staying in power, it was about the grift. Many entities raised money off twump's lie.
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That is so true! It is commonly overlooked that Trump made millions of dollars because people sent small donations to 'Help with the legal expenses.' What really happened to the money is it went into a PAC and got used however Trump wanted to spend it. It was like free money for him.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Lurch,



That is so true! It is commonly overlooked that Trump made millions of dollars because people sent small donations to 'Help with the legal expenses.' What really happened to the money is it went into a PAC and got used however Trump wanted to spend it. It was like free money for him.
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Just another "count" when twump faces a jury of his peers.
 
Hello Lurch,

LurchAddams said:
Just another "count" when twump faces a jury of his peers.
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Let us hope so. Huge settlement he has to pay that wipes him out, and more years added to a lengthy sentence, essentially resulting in a life sentence.

That would restore confidence in our government and in America!

It would be like demonstrating that America stands for what is right.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Lurch,



Let us hope so. Huge settlement he has to pay that wipes him out, and more years added to a lengthy sentence, essentially resulting in a life sentence.

That would restore confidence in our government and in America!

It would be like demonstrating that America stands for what is right.
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Who I really want to see hauled away as well are Barr and Pompeo. Those guys hold Americans in such low regard. They sneer at anyone who questions them. I'd love to see the both of them get what's coming to them!
 
Hello Lurch,

LurchAddams said:
Who I really want to see hauled away as well are Barr and Pompeo. Those guys hold Americans in such low regard. They sneer at anyone who questions them. I'd love to see the both of them get what's coming to them!
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That would be so reassuring to the spirit of America.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Sawyerloggingon,



Trump tried his best to redefine his Big Lie as something else. It didn't take. Trump is stuck with The Big Lie. It will become his legacy.
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Trumps legacy is low gas prices, a booming economy, a secure border, low inflation and democrats burning down cities in protest of the above.
 
When good people are fooled by a Big Lie, they can be coerced to do and support very bad things.

The Third Reich is an example of how dangerous a popular lie can be.
 
Hello Sawyerloggingon,

Sawyerloggingon said:
Trumps legacy is low gas prices, a booming economy, a secure border, low inflation and democrats burning down cities in protest of the above.
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Trump's legacy is shameless greed, The Big Lie, twice impeached, and the January 6th Capitol Attack.

If America is fortunate he will end up behind bars.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Sawyerloggingon,



Trump's legacy is shameless greed, The Big Lie, twice impeached, and the January 6th Capitol Attack.

If America is fortunate he will end up behind bars.
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If America is fortunate he will be back in the Whitehouse and can clean up Biden's disaster. Of course that's assuming America even survives the full Biden term.
 
PoliTalker said:
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."

That is a quote from Hitler's Minister of Propaganda.

Yes, the Third Reich actually had a Minister of Propaganda. They didn't try to hide it.

Telling big lies is how Hitler got the German people to make him ruler for life, and accept horrible atrocities.

Trump tried to illegally prevent the transition of power after he lost the 2020 election by telling The Big Lie and he kept repeating it.

Eventually people came to believe it.

It became very dangerous for our country. The US Capitol was violently attacked by believers of The Big Lie.

Now it is time to squash The Big Lie and tell The Real Truth.

Joe Biden Won.

Let the truth set you free.
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he actually lost bigly.

but don't let the truth get in the way of your happy place.
 
Hello Sawyerloggingon,

Sawyerloggingon said:
If America is fortunate he will be back in the Whitehouse and can clean up Biden's disaster. Of course that's assuming America even survives the full Biden term.
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Problems can arise which are not under the control of the president.

Sometimes, big problems can be caused by a president, particularly if he does not accept facts and tries to pursue a personal agenda.

When Trump lied to himself and America about the mythical 'stolen election' without proof, it cause millions of Americans to believe in a falsehood. Some of them attacked the capitol because of it and are now doing time. More trials are coming. More sentences will be handed down to people who mistakenly believed Trump.
 
Hello Sawyerloggingon,

Sawyerloggingon said:
That's okay. Nobody supports Biden's failed presidency. Everyone now see he was a huge mistake.
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That is incorrect. Millions of Americans voted for President Biden and support him. More people voted for President Biden than voted for his opponent. President Biden won the 2020 election.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Sawyerloggingon,



Problems can arise which are not under the control of the president.

Sometimes, big problems can be caused by a president, particularly if he does not accept facts and tries to pursue a personal agenda.

When Trump lied to himself and America about the mythical 'stolen election' without proof, it cause millions of Americans to believe in a falsehood. Some of them attacked the capitol because of it and are now doing time. More trials are coming. More sentences will be handed down to people who mistakenly believed Trump.
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And problems can be brought on or exacerbated by a president such as inflation, the border crises, cost of gasoline and Putin decision to invade Ukraine. Oh and don't forget baby formula crises.
 
Hello Sawyerloggingon,

Sawyerloggingon said:
And problems can be brought on or exacerbated by a president such as inflation, the border crises, cost of gasoline and Putin decision to invade Ukraine. Oh and don't forget baby formula crises.
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President Trump made inflation worse with a terrible pandemic response. That was really what got him voted out. His response was to say it would all be over in a few weeks, that it was only 15 cases going to 0, and that it was China's fault.

Lying and blaming does not do anything to save lives. What it did was spread falsehoods that caused people to refuse vaccination when it became available and as a result thousands died needlessly. Over 300 died just yesterday. Most of them were not vaccinated. People foolishly think Trump is to-die-for great. And sadly they have.

Trump's lies are very dangerous for America.
 
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