The constitution - A lesson and debate

Wrong. Technology has nothing to do with the words contained within this document. They are clear. They are intended to limit Governments ability to infringe on our liberties and rights.


That obviously means they cannot infringe on my liberty to use drugs, have an abortion, refuse to provide any education to my children, engage in polygamy or any other liberties I choose to exercise as part of my pursuit of happiness.
 
The limitation on government applied to entering a person's property and seizing evidence. Electronic surveillance does not involve either of these, therefore, the meaning of illegal search and seizure had to be interpreted differently to include such surveillance.

Can my freedom of religion be used allow me to take illegal narcotics since the government cannot restrict my freedom?

"We the people" have no authority to interpret the Constitution. That is why it was put in writing.

whoever taught you the constitution and civics should be shot, so should you for that matter. you have it all ass backwards. It is the absolute height of stupidity to believe the framers would create a new government with written limitations, only to hand over the power to define those limits to the government they just created.
 
whoever taught you the constitution and civics should be shot, so should you for that matter. you have it all ass backwards. It is the absolute height of stupidity to believe the framers would create a new government with written limitations, only to hand over the power to define those limits to the government they just created.

You must have missed the part about checks and balances in the Constitution. Thinking the people get to interpret the Constitution destroys the entire concept of a written document if it could be overturned by public opinion.

The Constitution as misinterpreted by the SmarterthanYou, IntotheNight, IBDMANN, GFM7175 school of thought is contrary to every real interpretation by those who have authority to make those decisions.
 
You must have missed the part about checks and balances in the Constitution. Thinking the people get to interpret the Constitution destroys the entire concept of a written document if it could be overturned by public opinion.

The Constitution as misinterpreted by the SmarterthanYou, IntotheNight, IBDMANN, GFM7175 school of thought is contrary to every real interpretation by those who have authority to make those decisions.

you must have missed the part about who wrote the constitution. It is the height of stupidity to believe the framers would create a limited government, only to hand over the power to define those limits to that government.
 
That obviously means they cannot infringe on my liberty to use drugs, have an abortion, refuse to provide any education to my children, engage in polygamy or any other liberties I choose to exercise as part of my pursuit of happiness.

That is correct Constitutionally. But the state police apparatus certainly can. You're not very smart or educated. :palm:
 
You must have missed the part about checks and balances in the Constitution. Thinking the people get to interpret the Constitution destroys the entire concept of a written document if it could be overturned by public opinion.

This is the dumbest argument I have seen. You're not very smart or educated are you? :palm:

The Constitution as misinterpreted by the SmarterthanYou, IntotheNight, IBDMANN, GFM7175 school of thought is contrary to every real interpretation by those who have authority to make those decisions.

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That is correct Constitutionally. But the state police apparatus certainly can. You're not very smart or educated. :palm:

I'm educated enough to know the state apparatus has been limited through the incorporation process that makes most of the rights in the Bill of Rights applicable to the states restricting their power to infringe on my 1st Amendment rights. You are about 100 years behind on your constitutional education. Check out the 14th Amendment which prohibits the states from infringing on due process or equal protection.

You have been making these same ignorant claims again and again which everybody else knows are outdated except your JPP buddies which make the same claims. Coincidence?

No matter how many times you claim the courts cannot interpret the Constitution, it still does not make it true.
 
This is the dumbest argument I have seen. You're not very smart or educated are you? :palm:


You are the one whose knowledge of the Constitution comes from some idiot. But, I should know anybody who believes Trump's claims of election fraud is likely to believe any source that is fake.
 
I'm educated enough to know the state apparatus has been limited through the incorporation process that makes most of the rights in the Bill of Rights applicable to the states restricting their power to infringe on my 1st Amendment rights. You are about 100 years behind on your constitutional education. Check out the 14th Amendment which prohibits the states from infringing on due process or equal protection.

You have been making these same ignorant claims again and again which everybody else knows are outdated except your JPP buddies which make the same claims. Coincidence?

No matter how many times you claim the courts cannot interpret the Constitution, it still does not make it true.

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You are the one whose knowledge of the Constitution comes from some idiot.

So John Adams and Thomas Jefferson are some idiot? Wow! :palm:

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But, I should know anybody who believes Trump's claims of election fraud is likely to believe any source that is fake.

Unlike triggered leftist snowflakes, I am not concerned about what Trump has to say about the election. Unlike you, I actually do my own research and read books on the topic.

The lack of curiosity on the part of mindless minions who beat their tiny fists on the table demanding that the election was perfect, raise concerns as to why they are so determined to shut down debate about that election.

For instance, I find it very difficult to believe that an incompetent, unaccomplished, senile 79 year old racist could win with 80 million votes, bettering Obama by 15,367,303 votes.

I find it very difficult to believe that Trump, garnering 74,222,958 votes, who beat his first election victory by 11,237,852 votes and which beat a much more popular Obama by 8,307,163 votes and who had massive, enthusiastic crowds at his events, could lose an election by 7,060,140 votes.

I find it difficult to believe that an election turnout for Obama was 57.1% and 9.2% lower than this election at 66.3%.

I find it difficult to believe that Republicans INCREASED their House presence by 13 seats in the last election, yet Trump lost by such a large margin to an incompetent, unaccomplished, senile 79 year old racist.

Claiming that Trump lost because everyone hates him just doesn't hold any water in rational debate.

Of course, if you are an unthinking, willing lemming, you will parrot the malarkey the media feeds you fed to them by the DNC. The typical response to these questions are "SHUT UP!" and "CONSPIRACY!!"
 
You are wrong, it is. Your right to carry for defense doesn't emanate from the Second.

the 2nd Amendment is not about the militia, nor is it about the right to carry. that pre-exists the constitution. The 2nd Amendment tells the federal government that they have zero authority over the right of the people to keep and bear arms
 
the 2nd Amendment is not about the militia, nor is it about the right to carry. that pre-exists the constitution. The 2nd Amendment tells the federal government that they have zero authority over the right of the people to keep and bear arms

You're wrong again. The Second is SPECIFICALLY about the Militia.
 
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