The Current trump failure

Statistically, COVID threat to 18-25 year olds is minimal and probably on the same order as alcohol poisoning on campuses.

The leading cause of outbreaks in China are Chinese college students returning from the USA. Without that, there would be virtually no deaths happening now in China.

There is no way that the world will open up to us while we are spewing disease out of our colleges. It will also create a toxic disease zone around most of our cutting edge medical resources.
 
Here is a piece that is only a couple of days old to educate you on why contact tracing will not work with were we are:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/08/contact-tracing-hr-6666-working-us/615637/

Lets look at the first line, "Contact tracing works almost everywhere else. Why not here?"

It goes on
With her thin eyebrows arched high on her forehead, Robyn Openshaw urged her 212,000 fans to stand up to a new menace: contact tracing. Openshaw, a widely followed health blogger who goes by “Green Smoothie Girl” on Facebook, had recently heard of a bill in Congress that would provide $100 million to mobile health clinics to help monitor the spread of COVID-19.

“Are you willing to hand over your freedom and create a health police state?” she asked her viewers, punctuating her statements with a karate chop to the air. “We will hold them accountable for the rollout of what looks an awful lot like communism.”

So basically, the reason we can not have contact tracing is because of the Alt Right, which is what I said. The Alt Right is fighting any attempt to fight this disease.
 
The leading cause of outbreaks in China are Chinese college students returning from the USA. Without that, there would be virtually no deaths happening now in China.

There is no way that the world will open up to us while we are spewing disease out of our colleges. It will also create a toxic disease zone around most of our cutting edge medical resources.

Horse mierda, Walter.

"HONG KONG — Word came from home via hurried emails and instant messages to campuses across the country: Leave China now.

Dexter Lensing listened. China had just been stricken by a new coronavirus that so far has killed more than 1,300 people and ground much of the country to a virtual halt. The Ph.D. student was one of nearly half a million foreigners studying at universities in China who was forced to choose whether to stay or leave.

For decades, students like him have bridged language, politics and culture to help close the distance between China and the rest of the world. Mr. Lensing in particular was drawn to China by its opaque political system, in which decisions are made in the shadows and people in power can rise and fall with the eddies of Beijing’s palace intrigue.

Now Mr. Lensing is one of likely thousands of others who are wondering when or whether they will have an opportunity to study in China again."
nytimes.com
 
The leading cause of outbreaks in China are Chinese college students returning from the USA. Without that, there would be virtually no deaths happening now in China.

There is no way that the world will open up to us while we are spewing disease out of our colleges. It will also create a toxic disease zone around most of our cutting edge medical resources.

Where do you get this crap lol?

The CCP? Are you a communist asset?
 
Statistically, COVID threat to 18-25 year olds is minimal and probably on the same order as alcohol poisoning on campuses.

Younger people are much less likely to die of the lurgy, certainly, but decent young people in sensible countries would not like to live with the thought of having infected their grandparents and others they care about, and who are much more likely to die or feel the guilt for the rest of their time.
 
Younger people are much less likely to die of the lurgy, certainly, but decent young people in sensible countries would not like to live with the thought of having infected their grandparents and others they care about, and who are much more likely to die or feel the guilt for the rest of their time.

Well, let’s close the world down and be done with it.
 
Well, let’s close the world down and be done with it.

Much to be said for it, when I read the trumper posts on here! By 'the world' you mean exploitative capitalism, I take it. Yet another of these cases where it is incompatible with normal humanity, eh? They are innumerable, I'm afraid, and your determination to burn us all to death for money doesn't help, does it?
 
Much to be said for it, when I read the trumper posts on here! By 'the world' you mean exploitative capitalism, I take it. Yet another of these cases where it is incompatible with normal humanity, eh? They are innumerable, I'm afraid, and your determination to burn us all to death for money doesn't help, does it?

Tend the goats roaming your filthy streets, America hating cabron.
 
No it doesn't, Snowflake.

Are you against the rate of deaths declining?



The best definition of a snowflake is somebody who hasn't the balls to look the real world in the face and deal with it. You, for example. The argument of this thread isn't that deaths are declining but that deaths are continuing at a slower pace than earlier but on a trend toward exceeding deaths in any other country.

Your question makes you look like an idiot plus a snowflake.
 
Do you have any idea how many numerous vaccines have been developed to try to combat HIV? And still none have worked.
use some science and not general assertions.
Why is HIV vaccine so difficult compared to simple SARS-Covid-type? why do you conflate the two?

One is the tremendous genetic variability of HIV: most naturally-generated antibodies work only against the specific virus that induces them, and not others.
Secondly, there is so-called ‘glycan shielding’; HIV shields its envelope protein, which forms the ‘knobs’ on its surface that are both its key to enter cells and the main thing antibodies latch on to, with a blanket of sticky sugar molecules that resist penetration.

Thirdly, and most importantly, there is immune escape. Because HIV is so variable and mutates as it reproduces, it can easily develop ‘resistance’ to antibodies, as it does to medicines. Chronic HIV infection involves an 'arms race' between the immune system and a virus that is always one step ahead of it.
https://www.aidsmap.com/news/mar-20...sing-antibodies-passes-first-safety-and-proof

The fact is most vaccines fail, even with relatively simple viruses.
it only takes 1 - until it mutates,but to control it's just 1.

SARS research halted under Obama, but the vaccine techniques are known.
Covid-19 provokes a weak immune response, so it is not going to be simple
WTF? cytokine storm is a weak response?
Wow, it sounds like a cool name... Sadly, there is not much behind it. There is a slight chance it will work, but that is only slight.
stupid. it's not the research (other then increased funding) -it's the MANUFACTURING AND DISTRIBUTION
to pre-positoned dispensaries to dispense
It will be in play as soon as the FDA allows it
 
We need 10 or more to get a 90% chance of one working. 5 is much fewer than 10.

Or put another way, 80% of phase 3 clinical trials fail completely with normal vaccines, and many of these are novel vaccines and will have a much higher failure rate.

Maybe we will get lucky. But if we keep counting on getting lucky, sooner or later we will not get lucky. We need a president who does not count on luck.
novel vaccine has nothing to do it if passes or fails phase 3 trials. This is crap.

by the time any vaccine gets to phase 3 it doesn't matter how it was crafted (genomes);
the statistics determine the rate of pass or failure.
you just spew stuff
 
The best definition of a snowflake is somebody who hasn't the balls to look the real world in the face and deal with it. You, for example. The argument of this thread isn't that deaths are declining but that deaths are continuing at a slower pace than earlier but on a trend toward exceeding deaths in any other country.

Your question makes you look like an idiot plus a snowflake.

Are you against the rate of deaths declining, Snowflake?

Take a hike, cabron.
 
America(563 per million) just blew past Sweden(562) in deaths per million. trump will definitely take us past Italy(589), Spain(615), and then Britain(621) by election day, and probably a month sooner. There may be bigger failures in the Third World, but trump will be the biggest failure in the first world.

Countries will not lift their travel ban on the USA until we get this under control. Our economy will continue to long term shrink as long as we have travel bans against us.

And there is no plan to get this under control. Maybe a miracle will appear, but it will not happen by election day.

So it looks like the Alt Right will be stuck claiming it is all a hoax.


You're a lying sack of shit you dickless ignorant moron
 
Why is HIV vaccine so difficult compared to simple SARS-Covid-type? why do you conflate the two?

Why is HIV so difficult? Because it evolves quicker than the vaccines can handle. Is it more difficult than Covid-19? We do not know yet. I just use it as an example that vaccines do not always work.

Basically put, there is no reason that vaccines have to work. It is possible for there to not be a vaccine.

SARS research halted under Obama, but the vaccine techniques are known.

No, and no. SARS research was never halted, and vaccine techniques are possible, but nothing is known yet.

WTF? cytokine storm is a weak response?

Covid-19 immunity fades quickly. There have already been documented cases of people getting Covid-19 twice. Vaccines work when immunity fades slowly or not at all. Even with influenza, where we have to get vaccines every year, immunity to a specific strain is usually for life.

It will be in play as soon as the FDA allows it

You think so? You are an optimist.
 
novel vaccine has nothing to do it if passes or fails phase 3 trials. This is crap.

The reason a vaccine is novel is because similar vaccines have never, or rarely worked before. So yes, being novel means that it has a less than the 20% chance a standard vaccine has of working.

by the time any vaccine gets to phase 3 it doesn't matter how it was crafted (genomes);
the statistics determine the rate of pass or failure.

Statistics are based on past success. The standard vaccines have a past success rate of about 20%. The novel vaccines have a past success rate closer to 0%. With viruses where immunity fades quickly, success rates have been much lower.

Maybe we will get lucky... BUT IT WILL JUST BE LUCK!!!
 
The reason a vaccine is novel is because similar vaccines have never, or rarely worked before. So yes, being novel means that it has a less than the 20% chance a standard vaccine has of working.



Statistics are based on past success. The standard vaccines have a past success rate of about 20%. The novel vaccines have a past success rate closer to 0%. With viruses where immunity fades quickly, success rates have been much lower.

Maybe we will get lucky... BUT IT WILL JUST BE LUCK!!!

So, Walter, you are hoping that the vaccine doesn't work...for political reasons.

That's a bit cold, Walter.
 
This is what passes for "debate" from the Alt Right. It is the reason we cannot have nice things.

I could debate you and beat the shit out of you, but having read your posts and your snotty bitch ass comments I know that intelligent debate would be wasted on a piece of shit like you. So instead I just quickly let you know what a dickless loser you are.

Just a reminder of what this election is about:

Democrats are the party of infanticide, socialism, government control, smashing Free Speech rights, giving free stuff to illegal aliens, and now they are the party of mobs in the streets burning and destroying cities. See the burning cities and torn down statues, and you see the democrat party world. Mobs.

Republicans are the party of Traditional Values, Liberty and freedom. Donald Trump gave us the lowest unemployment rates since John F Kennedy until the virus hit, and now Democrats are trying to keep the virus going because they are so evil they are happy to destroy the economy simply to defeat Trump. That’s right. Masks and continued shutdowns are a joke, based totally on fear. There is a 0.04 death rate for Corona. People have more chance of dying from the Flu.

A totalitarian socialist state of mobs is what the Democrats offer, and liberty and freedom and jobs-not-mobs is what Trump offers.


So, all your faggot ass bullshit about "Alt Right" and all that nonsense, just shove it up your lard ass.
 
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