The Deep State Conspiracy Theory

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StoneByStone

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Ever since I came to this forum, I've seen the conspiracy theory that the "Deep State" hates Trump and wants him out of power. However, nobody has ever been able to answer the following questions.

1) Why does the Deep State hate Trump? If the Deep State is made up of the super rich elites, and Trump made the super rich even richer, why would they dislike him or want him removed?

2) If they want him removed, why not just removed him? They allowed him to win the election and then allowed him to remain in power after he was impeached. Rigging an election or voting him out during impeachment would have been incredibly easy for a super elite secret society, so what gives?
 
I long thought Trump was a Democrat plant, to character assassinate Republicans to look as obnoxious, crude & crass as possible.

Can't rule it out.

Trump is like Obama #2.

In fact, by implemented policy he's to the Left of Obama.

Stimulus & Bailouts more Socialist than Obama's.

Deported less Illegals than Obama.
 
WitoldPilecki said:
I long thought Trump was a Democrat plant, to character assassinate Republicans to look as obnoxious, crude & crass as possible.

Can't rule it out.

Trump is like Obama #2.

In fact, by implemented policy he's to the Left of Obama.

Stimulus & Bailouts more Socialist than Obama's.

Deported less Illegals than Obama.
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I used to think about that too. It seemed especially likely because Trump always presented himself as a liberal Democrat. He was even friends with many Democrats and often praised the Clintons. He didn't start pretending to be conservative until like eight years ago.
I never really believed the theory, but it's certainly possible. He's definitely soured Centrists on ever voting Republican again.
 
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StoneByStone said:
I used to think about that too. It seemed especially likely because Trump always presented himself as a liberal Democrat. He was even friends with many Democrats and often praised the Clintons. He didn't start pretending to be conservative until like eight years ago.
I never really believed the theory, but it's certainly possible. He's definitely soured Centrists on ever voting Republican again.
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Trump used to praise Scotland's national healthcare too.
But, then hates Obamacare?
 
StoneByStone said:
Ever since I came to this forum, I've seen the conspiracy theory that the "Deep State" hates Trump and wants him out of power. However, nobody has ever been able to answer the following questions.

1) Why does the Deep State hate Trump? If the Deep State is made up of the super rich elites, and Trump made the super rich even richer, why would they dislike him or want him removed?

2) If they want him removed, why not just removed him? They allowed him to win the election and then allowed him to remain in power after he was impeached. Rigging an election or voting him out during impeachment would have been incredibly easy for a super elite secret society, so what gives?
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How can you ask that question when you don't even know what the Deep State is ... it isn't elite rich people.
 
I'll give you a hint StoneByStone ... the Deep State just tried to get rid of an elected President.

Does that help?
 
Ron Mars said:
How can you ask that question when you don't even know what the Deep State is ... it isn't elite rich people.
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Oh? Then do tell, what is it?
Keep in mind, there are different versions of the theory. The version I heard is that it's a secret society of elites.
 
StoneByStone said:
Tried? But they failed, yes? So whatever the Deep State is, it can't be all that powerful.
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If there’s a deep state, it’s Citizen’s United, the dark money in politics, but there is no organized deep state because all those donors have their own agendas. If they have an agenda it’s to keep the workers down.
 
Phantasmal said:
If there’s a deep state, it’s Citizen’s United, the dark money in politics, but there is no organized deep state because all those donors have their own agendas. If they have an agenda it’s to keep the workers down.
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Now that's the kind of "Deep State" that I do believe in. The Deep State is the 1% that control both parties, not through some shadowy Illuminati conspiracy, but simply by bribing politicians in order to influence policy.

But with that being said, why would these people hate Trump? He made them richer. And if they hate him so much, why didn't they have the Republicans vote him out during the impeachment?
 
StoneByStone said:
Ever since I came to this forum, I've seen the conspiracy theory that the "Deep State" hates Trump and wants him out of power. However, nobody has ever been able to answer the following questions.

1) Why does the Deep State hate Trump? If the Deep State is made up of the super rich elites, and Trump made the super rich even richer, why would they dislike him or want him removed?

2) If they want him removed, why not just removed him? They allowed him to win the election and then allowed him to remain in power after he was impeached. Rigging an election or voting him out during impeachment would have been incredibly easy for a super elite secret society, so what gives?
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It is the 21st century equivalent of Joseph Stalin's paranoia about dissident elements and saboteurs buried within the Soviet government and bent on undermining and weakening the power of Stalin.

You would be actually amazed at how similar Trump supporter are to Stalinists.
 
StoneByStone said:
Tried? But they failed, yes? So whatever the Deep State is, it can't be all that powerful.
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Powerful enough to appoint a special prosecutor ... powerful enough to get illegal warrants to spy on a Presidential candidate and then elected President.

Powerful enough to get an impeachment show going without even having to claim any crimes had been committed ... Orange Man Bad was good enough.

Any of this helping?
 
Cypress said:
It is the 21st century equivalent of Joseph Stalin's paranoia about dissident elements and saboteurs buried within the Soviet government and bent on undermining and weakening the power of Stalin.

You would be actually amazed at how similar Trump supporter are to Stalinists.
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I've actually compared Trumpism to Stalinism here before. Both were anti-democratic, anti-education, full of conspiracy theories, and called the media the "enemy of the people" simply for criticizing the glorious leader.
 
The career civil service is the 'deep state,' who stay while most congress critters come and go.

They detest careerists and despise wreckers like Trump.
 
StoneByStone said:
I've actually compared Trumpism to Stalinism here before. Both were anti-democratic, anti-education, full of conspiracy theories, and called the media the "enemy of the people" simply for criticizing the glorious leader.
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Thought there may have been some hope for you.

This is bat-shit crazy stuff right here ... that Trump is "anti-democratic, anti-education, full of conspiracy theories"
 
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