The evolution of complex life

Cypress said:
I accept your tacit confession that my hypothesis of a symbiosis of an archaea cell and bacteria cell to create a eukaryote is less laughable than your idea that an old guy in a white robe waived a magic wand and created eukaryotes.
Click to expand...

and I take that as your confession that you have not yet advanced to fourth grade debate strategies......
 
Cypress said:
The qualifying characteristics of a hypothesis is they can't invoke the supernatural, and they have to have a mathematical or physical basis, and they have to be make predictions, at least in principle in the long run.

--> Testibility is sufficient to qualify a hypothesis as scientific, but not necessary in the short run if a proposed hypothesis is attractive on explanatory grounds and is fertile in stimulating new lines of research which promise testibility and falsifiability in the long run.

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...nism-basically-finished&p=5475473#post5475473
Click to expand...

I am old enough to remember when scientists believed in the scientific method.....

in the short run
Click to expand...

when you get to the second eighty years does it start qualifying as a long run?......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
I am old enough to remember when scientists believed in the scientific method.....
Click to expand...

You don't know what that means. Sorry, but usually when people say that kinda stuff it's because they, themselves, know only what they were taught in junior high school.

You don't understand the scientific method in reality.
 
Perry Phimosis said:
You don't know what that means. Sorry, but usually when people say that kinda stuff it's because they, themselves, know only what they were taught in junior high school.

You don't understand the scientific method in reality.
Click to expand...

He's politicizing science like his hero, Pedo Don, and only referencing those "scientists" who have sold out to commercial interests. Example:

camels.jpg


4ac.jpg


My guess is that people like Pmp are specifically referencing two Alt-Right political ideas: Dissing medical science on COVID and dissing environmental scientists on Global Warming.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
I am old enough to remember when scientists believed in the scientific method.....



when you get to the second eighty years does it start qualifying as a long run?......
Click to expand...

I accept your tacit confession you were misinformed about scientific hypotheses.

There is no time limit in any official rule book.

If a scientific idea has a reasonable physical or mathematical basis, makes predictions, point us towards fruitful areas of research, and is considered potentially falsifiable in the long term, then it qualifies as a hypothesis.
 
Perry Phimosis said:
No, I speak from experience of being a real scientist. Not the cartoon image you have because the last time you took a science class was junior high school.
Click to expand...

Over time, you'll notice that Pmp never, ever talks about his past...probably for good reason. LOL
 
PostmodernProphet said:
and I take that as your confession that you have not yet advanced to fourth grade debate strategies......
Click to expand...

You have been studiously avoiding giving your idea for how eukaryotes originated.

I assume your idea has something to do with a guy with white beards wearing robes and waving a magical wand.


We know that prokaryotes existed as long as 3.4 billion years ago.

We don't see eukaryotic cells until two billion years ago.

Genetics seems to suggest that all life is genetically related and traces to a common origin.

That means it is unlikely eukaryotic cells just appeared independently on their own.

A reasonable hypothesis is that an archaea cell and a bacterium formed some kind of symbiotic relationship two billion years ago, giving rise to a eukaryotic cell structure.

So what is your idea for how the eukaryote cell originated?
 
Cypress said:
PostmodernProphet said:
and I take that as your confession that you have not yet advanced to fourth grade debate strategies......
Click to expand...
You have been studiously avoiding giving your idea for how eukaryotes originated.

I assume your idea has something to do with a guy with white beards wearing robes and waving a magical wand.


We know that prokaryotes existed as long as 3.4 billion years ago.

We don't see eukaryotic cells until two billion years ago.

Genetics seems to suggest that all life is genetically related and traces to a common origin.

That means it is unlikely eukaryotic cells just appeared independently on their own.

A reasonable hypothesis is that an archaea cell and a bacterium formed some kind of symbiotic relationship two billion years ago, giving rise to a eukaryotic cell structure.

So what is your idea for how the eukaryote cell originated?
Click to expand...

Pmp is a minion of the dark lord. I doubt he gives a shit about how it happened. He's just here to spread maliciousness.

Have you ever seen him offer an intellectual response on a topic? It's always posts like this:
PostmodernProphet said:
amusing.......
Click to expand...
PostmodernProphet said:
actually, it isn't an hypothesis......you should have stuck with calling it an idea.....
Click to expand...
 
Cypress said:
You have been studiously avoiding giving your idea for how eukaryotes originated.

I assume your idea has something to do with a guy with white beards wearing robes and waving a magical wand.


We know that prokaryotes existed as long as 3.4 billion years ago.

We don't see eukaryotic cells until two billion years ago.

Genetics seems to suggest that all life is genetically related and traces to a common origin.

That means it is unlikely eukaryotic cells just appeared independently on their own.

A reasonable hypothesis is that an archaea cell and a bacterium formed some kind of symbiotic relationship two billion years ago, giving rise to a eukaryotic cell structure.

So what is your idea for how the eukaryote cell originated?
Click to expand...

The physical universe is a reaction to Satan's rebellion.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Pmp is a minion of the dark lord. I doubt he gives a shit about how it happened. He's just here to spread maliciousness.

Have you ever seen him offer an intellectual response on a topic? It's always posts like this:
Click to expand...

Given that his responses on threads like this generally are just one sentence drive by snarks, I have to agree he is neither interested in nor knowledgeable about scientific topics.
 
Cypress said:
Given that his responses on threads like this generally are just one sentence drive by snarks, I have to agree he is neither interested in nor knowledgeable about scientific topics.
Click to expand...

Agreed. Not just this thread or topic either. I've never seen Pmp give a logical, coherent and educated response on a topic. He just trolls with snark and never rises above that level.

Nothing wrong with that, but nothing right either. Lots of people on JPP only troll and vent. Most are too stupid and/or demented to do anything else. Pmp seems capable of rising above the level of trolling but unwilling. IDK why.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed. Not just this thread or topic either. I've never seen Pmp give a logical, coherent and educated response on a topic. He just trolls with snark and never rises above that level.

Nothing wrong with that, but nothing right either. Lots of people on JPP only troll and vent. Most are too stupid and/or demented to do anything else. Pmp seems capable of rising above the level of trolling but unwilling. IDK why.
Click to expand...

American evangelicalism seems to labor under the impression that science and religion are incompatible, perhaps even enemies.

Nothing could be further from the truth. The fathers of cosmology and genetics arguably are a Catholic priest and and Augustinian monk, respectively.

Religion and science are just asking different questions.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top