The faux Edwards "hypocrisy" nonsense...

Cypress

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Time Magazine pretty much nails it.

On the Edwards campaign, and the inane babble about his "hypocrisy"

“Another challenge is that much of the attention he’s gotten recently has been the unflattering kind, stories that question his sincerity and assail his image as a fighter for the little guy by focusing on his pricey haircuts, huge house and hedge-fund job. These viral attacks, spreading from the Drudge Report and other blogs to newspapers everywhere, make a dumb argument. They assume that someone who’s wealthy can’t be a sincere advocate for poor and working people. By that logic, the healthy can’t speak on behalf of the sick, or whites on behalf of people of color...

Here’s what would truly be hypocritical: if Edwards spoke out on behalf of the disadvantaged while pushing policies that benefit the rich. This he does not do. He favors boosting the capital-gains tax rate for families earning over $250,000 and closing the loophole that allows fund managers—like those at Fortress Investment Group, where he earned almost $500,000 in 2006—to get taxed at just 15%. ‘He wants to take money away from the people who paid him,’ says deputy campaign manager Jonathan Prince. ‘That’s not hypocrisy. That’s sincerity.’”


http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1657558,00.html
 
Time Magazine pretty much nails it.

On the Edwards campaign, and the inane babble about his "hypocrisy"

Within his 30,000 square foot home Mr. Edwards is building a half court (full court?) basketball court. If Sir Edwards gets over 10% of the vote within the Democratic Primary I will allow him to play yours truly one game of one on one. Cawacko will smoke his *ss.
 
Within his 30,000 square foot home Mr. Edwards is building a half court (full court?) basketball court. If Sir Edwards gets over 10% of the vote within the Democratic Primary I will allow him to play yours truly one game of one on one. Cawacko will smoke his *ss.

OH my God alert the media a guy with money is building his kids a half court basketball court!

grow up
 
boosting the cap gains tax will cost poor people jobs
edwards is a class warfare moron, will do no better than the distant third he's at now.
 
boosting the cap gains tax will cost poor people jobs
edwards is a class warfare moron, will do no better than the distant third he's at now.

Umm poor people do not usually work for investment services....
How does buying stock from another individual (not the issuing company) create jobs for poor people ?
Please leaborate since you are the "teacher" do some teachin.
 
Umm poor people do not usually work for investment services....
How does buying stock from another individual (not the issuing company) create jobs for poor people ?
Please leaborate since you are the "teacher" do some teachin.

That's pretty simple. If there were no after market for stocks there would be virtually no initial market for buyers of the newly issued stock.
 
And again, this is largely a strawman. Though, some might focus on it, it is the weaker criticism of Edwards. I don't care that he is rich. But using these orgs to further his own ambition, extract wealth from and pay his expenses for unrelated activities (e.g., his bid for the presidency) brings his sincerity into question.
 
That's pretty simple. If there were no after market for stocks there would be virtually no initial market for buyers of the newly issued stock.

Umm we had a market for stocks before the capital gains tax cuts. It is being disingenuious to say that market would dissappear if the capital gains tax cuts went away.

People that heve money to invest will invest that money.
Ya think they are going to put it in mason jars ?
 
poor people work for companies moron, the less capital around the less companies you have.
Had you stepped in an economics class room you'd know that raising the tax on capital gains will lower the amount of capital otherwise in the market.
Class dissmissed, now go clean you laminated GED!!!
 
Umm you only add capital to companies when you buy stock from the issuing company, not when it has been traded 100 times since its issue.
Class dismissed professor professer.

It might raise their credit rating and the value of the stock they hold but that is about it.
Of couse stock is not money till it is sold.
 
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Yep you are really showing your teaching skills there lead moron.

I had hoped for a bit more detail...No wonder miss ranks so low in education with teachers like you.
 
I read and learn everyday Mr New summers eve :)
education does not stop with your degree, butt in your case I think it did.
 
Umm poor people do not usually work for investment services....
How does buying stock from another individual (not the issuing company) create jobs for poor people ?
Please leaborate since you are the "teacher" do some teachin.

God damn you're a stupid old man. Do the poor hire themselves?
 
God damn you're a stupid old man. Do the poor hire themselves?

Explzin hw people trading stocks cause the hiring of many if any poor folks please. As I have said trading stocks not the IPO or buying from a company.

Talk is easy , back it up now.

I am willing to be eddicated but it seems that all you experts cannot explain it. Must be a faith based thing.
 
rich guy makes less (by paying more taxes), rich guy has less money to invest (start new business, hire the poor)

You have to be willfully ignorant to not understand this.

Now let's try something.
Why don't you tell us how higher taxes HELP the economy and the poor?
 
OH my God alert the media a guy with money is building his kids a half court basketball court!

grow up

Grow up? Excuse me?

A. As a basketball fan myself I'm giving the man props for building a court in his house. And since you don't seem to interpret real well on this thread I was trying to invite myself over for a chance to play. I was actually paying Mr. Edwards respect.

Now maybe you have different friends than me but I don't know anyone who has built an indoor basketball court at their house. Again, I think its very cool. Edwards said he is a basketball fan and he went to both N.C. State and UNC which are rabid basketball schools.

So please fricking relax. I was not putting him down (outside saying I don't think he will get a high vote total in the DemocratIC primary).

Grow up my ass.
 
I know you were kidding around Cawacko.

It'd be sweet if you went for a little one on one with Edwards. He was the star BMOC athlete in his high school though. He could probably lite up the hoop on your ass ;)
 
I know you were kidding around Cawacko.

It'd be sweet if you went for a little one on one with Edwards. He was the star BMOC athlete in his high school though. He could probably lite up the hoop on your ass ;)

With all dude respect to Mr. Edwards, as a youth I was playing some of the best playground players in Oakland. I will take him! :)
 
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