The great white hope

Democratic leaders who were elected (unlike their Republican opponents, who lost):

Speaker of the House: Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)
Nancy Pelosi made history this year, breaking the marble ceiling to become the first woman to serve as Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives. With Democrats returning to the majority for the first time in 12 years, Speaker Pelosi and her leadership team are addressing the challenging issues facing the American people after years of inaction. Under her leadership, the 110th Congress is working to make America safer, to restore the American Dream and to restore accountability to government. http://www.speaker.gov/



Senate Majority Leader: Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV)
Since Nevadans elected him to the Senate in 1986, Harry Reid has developed a reputation as a consensus builder and a skillful legislator. Even his Republican colleagues praise his reasoned, balanced approach. http://democrats.senate.gov/


ORGANIZATIONAL LEADERS


DNC Chairman: Gov. Tim Kaine
Upon his election as the Chairman of the Democratic National Committee, Gov. Tim Kaine declared that Democrats will continue to fight in all 50 states "now and forever." Gov. Kaine, fluent in Spanish from his community service as a missionary in Honduras, believes that every state, every region, every community, and every person matters. http://www.democrats.org/



DGA Chairman: West Virginia Gov. Joe Manchin
Governor Joe Manchin was elected Governor of West Virginia in 2004 with over 63 percent of the vote. In addition to being Chairman of the DGA, Gov. Manchin also chairs the Southern Governors' Association. Gov. Manchin previously served in both houses of the state legislature, as well as Secretary of State. http://www.democraticgovernors.org/



DSCC Chairman: Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ)
Bob Menendez grew up the son of immigrants in a tenement building in Union City. A product of New Jersey's public schools and a graduate of the state's universities, he has served as a school board member, a mayor and a state legislator. Since 1992, he has been fighting for New Jersey families in Washington, where he rose to become the third-highest ranking Democrat in the House of Representatives before taking office in the Senate in 2006. http://www.dscc.org/



DCCC Chairman: Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD)
Representative Van Hollen represents Maryland's 8th district after winning election in 2002. Before joining the House of Representatives, the Congressman served four years in Maryland's House of Delegates and eight years in the State Senate. In 2006, Van Hollen headed up the DCCC's "Red to Blue" program as one of their top lieutenants. http://www.dccc.org/



DLCC Chairman: Iowa Senate Majority Leader Mike Gronstal
Senator Gronstal was elected Iowa Senate Majority Leader by his fellow Democratic Senators after spearheading their efforts to capture 30 seats in the Iowa Senate in 2006. He has been in the Senate since 1985 and was a member of the House from 1983-85. He represents District 50 in the Iowa Senate, which includes Council Bluffs and Carter Lake. http://www.dlcc.org/
 
Yurt said:
those people are elected....by the people....yet when there are no elections by the people....your party choses all WHITE leaders, six of them white men....

lmao
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it seems like you are purposely avoiding the larger issue here, yurt. It isn't about whether one party or the other has X percent of minorities in its leadership ranks....it is really all about which party minorities vote for when they go to the voting booth.

You can crow about Steele all day long... but he ain't gonna increase your percentage of minority voters by any appreciable margin.

that's just the facts... you can whine that it isn't fair... that black people really OUGHT to vote for republicans because you really DO have their better interests at heart... you can complain that the democrats are purposely working to continue the false stereotype that republicans are racist... you can blame it on anything you want....but until the republican party takes a good hard look at itself and asks itself the question whether or not it really WANTS to be a national party that appeals to all Americans or whether it is content to be a southern and a western rural/regional party that is made up primarily of whites, you can't do anything concrete to change your current circumstance. Either you want to have minorities vote for your candidates or you don't. And if you DO, you will NEVER get them by doing the same things you have done to disenchant the vast majority of them to this point.

that's reality. I don't give a flying fuck whether you think that is fair or even right...is just IS. What you do about it is entirely up to you.
 
maineman said:
it seems like you are purposely avoiding the larger issue here, yurt. It isn't about whether one party or the other has X percent of minorities in its leadership ranks....it is really all about which party minorities vote for when they go to the voting booth.

You can crow about Steele all day long... but he ain't gonna increase your percentage of minority voters by any appreciable margin.

that's just the facts... you can whine that it isn't fair... that black people really OUGHT to vote for republicans because you really DO have their better interests at heart... you can complain that the democrats are purposely working to continue the false stereotype that republicans are racist... you can blame it on anything you want....but until the republican party takes a good hard look at itself and asks itself the question whether or not it really WANTS to be a national party that appeals to all Americans or whether it is content to be a southern and a western rural/regional party that is made up primarily of whites, you can't do anything concrete to change your current circumstance. Either you want to have minorities vote for your candidates or you don't. And if you DO, you will NEVER get them by doing the same things you have done to disenchant the vast majority of them to this point.

that's reality. I don't give a flying fuck whether you think that is fair or even right...is just IS. What you do about it is entirely up to you.
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wow....you're really embarrassed your party has no minority leaders....i would be too, especially since so many minorities vote democrat....

it just shows the dems have waged a good pr war against the gop and have convinced many that the gop is racist....its not true, but it has worked....it is really the height of stupidity to claim that just because people vote democrat.....that this means democratic party is not racist....your all white leaders stand in stark contrast to your base....

kind of interesting when minorities complain about representation, yet seem content to not be represented in the party they vote for....

democratic party never had a black chair....gop....black chair.... to bad the facts cause you embarrassment and shame
 
Yurt said:
wow....you're really embarrassed your party has no minority leaders....i would be too, especially since so many minorities vote democrat....
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LIAR...I expressed no embarrassment at all. Either show a quote from me that expresses embarrassment or retract the lie

it just shows the dems have waged a good pr war against the gop and have convinced many that the gop is racist....its not true, but it has worked....it is really the height of stupidity to claim that just because people vote democrat.....that this means democratic party is not racist....your all white leaders stand in stark contrast to your base....
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actually yurt...it is the height of stupidity to whine about it and think that whining will somehow change the fact that republicans can't get minorities to vote for them

kind of interesting when minorities complain about representation, yet seem content to not be represented in the party they vote for....
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interesting? I think that they know that they are far better represented by democrats then they ever could be with your party.... or maybe you think those black folks are just too dumb to realize what's good for 'em?

democratic party never had a black chair....gop....black chair.... to bad the facts cause you embarrassment and shame
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good for you yurt... as I said, that fact does not embarrass me at all... blacks and latinos will vote democratic regardless of the color of the figurehead on your white ship.
 
it is not a lie....it is my opinion your post displayed embarrassment....you're spinning madly away from the fact your party leaders are all white, despite your base having so many minorities....

its ok....your party's lies that the gop is racist will not longer be accepted as true....your ex party chair claimed the gop is the old white guys party....yet look at your leaders and look at who chair's the gop.....

thats embarrassing......and yet you still claim the gop is a white ship....thats a lie.....plain and simple....:)
 
Yurt said:
it is not a lie....it is my opinion your post displayed embarrassment....you're spinning madly away from the fact your party leaders are all white, despite your base having so many minorities....

its ok....your party's lies that the gop is racist will not longer be accepted as true....your ex party chair claimed the gop is the old white guys party....yet look at your leaders and look at who chair's the gop.....

thats embarrassing......and yet you still claim the gop is a white ship....thats a lie.....plain and simple....:)
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your opinion is without basis. NOTHING in my post showed any embarrassment at all. I am not the least bit embarrassed by the fact that my party's leadership does not contain many minorities.... the party's upper echelons... the elected representatives and senators at the local state and national level are very diverse. YOUR party's upper echelons are predominately white. Cypress had a great post earlier which laid that out quite clearly. People of color serving their country in high level elected offices are oeverwhelmingly democratic. Naming Tom Steele as RNC chair does not change that.

Yours is a party that is supported overwhelmingly by whites, because minorities overwhelmingly support MY party. That is just a fact. You can whine about why that is the case, the question that you refuse to answer is what, besides continuing to whine, do you intend to do about it?
 
maineman said:
your opinion is without basis. NOTHING in my post showed any embarrassment at all. I am not the least bit embarrassed by the fact that my party's leadership does not contain many minorities.... the party's upper echelons... the elected representatives and senators at the local state and national level are very diverse. YOUR party's upper echelons are predominately white. Cypress had a great post earlier which laid that out quite clearly. People of color serving their country in high level elected offices are oeverwhelmingly democratic. Naming Tom Steele as RNC chair does not change that.

Yours is a party that is supported overwhelmingly by whites, because minorities overwhelmingly support MY party. That is just a fact. You can whine about why that is the case, the question that you refuse to answer is what, besides continuing to whine, do you intend to do about it?
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you see....you're acting embarrassed.....how the party that claims to be for minorities has zero minorities for their leadership is, frankly, embarrassing and truly shows your party's "colors".....if you weren't embarrassed there would be no need to justify your party's white leaders by pointing out white leaders in the party you think is racist.....

your embarrassment is quite evident :)
 
Yurt said:
you see....you're acting embarrassed.....how the party that claims to be for minorities has zero minorities for their leadership is, frankly, embarrassing and truly shows your party's "colors".....if you weren't embarrassed there would be no need to justify your party's white leaders by pointing out white leaders in the party you think is racist.....

your embarrassment is quite evident :)
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bullshit... you've obviously had more than a couple of margaritas tonight, you drunk.

and as I said, the ranks of our elected representatives are LOADED with minorities...

calling me embarrassed by that is just another weak lie.

and AGAIN....when will you quit running away from the question of what you intend to do about your party's terrible attraction for minorities?
 
maineman said:
bullshit... you've obviously had more than a couple of margaritas tonight, you drunk.

and as I said, the ranks of our elected representatives are LOADED with minorities...

calling me embarrassed by that is just another weak lie.

and AGAIN....when will you quit running away from the question of what you intend to do about your party's terrible attraction for minorities?
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^lol^

embarrassment in full swing....you're blathering and deflecting by talking about my state of mind....you're desperate to avoid the fact your leaders are all white and mostly old white men....

its like watching a train wreck in slow motion
 
Yurt said:
^lol^

embarrassment in full swing....you're blathering and deflecting by talking about my state of mind....you're desperate to avoid the fact your leaders are all white and mostly old white men....

its like watching a train wreck in slow motion
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again... the ranks of elected officials of my party are filled with minorities..

but hey... you've got a dark brown figurehead. congratulations!

and again...no embarrassment from me at ALL.... my party has the minority vote and yours doesn't. that's the fact....and you are at a loss for words as to what in the world you can do to change that.

sorry.
 
:rofl:

if you had anything to say that would explain how your lily white party was planning on getting more than a smattering of the minority vote, you'd have told us all by now.
 
maineman said:
:rofl:

if you had anything to say that would explain how your lily white party was planning on getting more than a smattering of the minority vote, you'd have told us all by now.
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Damn I think Mainey is black now, LMAO
He loves Obama so much he now considers himself a brother, LOL
 
Jeff said:
Damn I think Mainey is black now, LMAO
He loves Obama so much he now considers himself a brother, LOL
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his embarrassment has become embarrassing for me to watch....how anyone with a party of all white people, mostly old white guys, can call another party the "lily white" party is so laughable, its certifiably shows desperation and imo, his embarrassment over his party's leaders.....he is so ashamed that he has to lie about the republican party
 
Yurt said:
his embarrassment has become embarrassing for me to watch....how anyone with a party of all white people, mostly old white guys, can call another party the "lily white" party is so laughable, its certifiably shows desperation and imo, his embarrassment over his party's leaders.....he is so ashamed that he has to lie about the republican party
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I see that, but to me honestly, color should not even come up, when I see some white guy from Maine talking about lilly white people that just blows my mind, I bet he never had a black man to his house for dinner, but has the balls to call someone lilly white, LMAO
 
jeff... you come late to the conversation.

the original issue was the use of the term "great white hope" and its clear racial connotations....

it has since morphed into a discussion about how the GOP plans to increase the percentage of minority voters that it gets...

I have been waiting for yurt to provide some of the current GOP thinking on that subject, but I guess he must be out of the loop.

Are you any more well versed in that? Can you explain what your party plans to do to increase the numbers of minorities that vote republican?

And regarding blacks in Maine.... there aren't really all that many of them, that is for sure... but nearly all of them are democrats and I know most of the ones who run for office. Did you know that, even though we have an african american population of less than one percent, four years ago, three of the top five cities in Maine had black mayors and the only reason they are no longer in office is because of term limits or they moved on to statewide office? One of them was in MY town and I had a fund raiser for him in my living room... his wife was the organist at our church... Maine may be lily white, but the folks of color we have do not feel discriminated against.... unlike other states further south.:pke:
 
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