The last I looked coup attempts are treasonous

Flash said:
Not according to federal law:

"Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States." 18 U.S. Code § 2381. Treason

Presidential assassins have not been charged with treason but with murder or assassination.
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Murder of a state official is a treasonous action. Whatever the code says on how to punish someone and terminologize that action is a different affair. The action itself is treasonous.
 
Flash said:
I always considered the FDR coup conspiracies like the JFK assassination conspiracies---there were too many different versions to take them seriously.

Wealthy people who avoid conviction just get more publicity than poor people. Every day many poor people have their charges dismissed, are never charged, or get relatively light sentences because of the lack of strong evidence and because of the heavy caseload. The number of crimes for which people are convicted is very low, especially for less serious crimes. Those who commit murder or other violent felonies often get touch sentences. Many more poor people escape justice than wealthy peo
You consider wrongly. https://www.npr.org/2012/02/12/145472726/when-the-bankers-plotted-to-overthrow-fdr
Wrong about poor people and the law too. When you are poor, a traffic ticket and put you in jail. If you cannot afford a couple hundred for a ticket and get pulled over going to work ,you get thrown in jail. Can't afford bail or an atty, you are in jail for a long, long time.
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Nate Higgers said:
Will there be repercussions from the failed coup attempt to effectively change the results of the 2016 election?
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It's not a coup if it's done democratically and legally. It's a coup if it's done violently and illegally. If Nancy Pelosi were to walk into the White House, whoop Trump's snowflake ass, and declare herself president, that would be a coup.
 
Part Multi 313 said:
Murder of a state official is a treasonous action. Whatever the code says on how to punish someone and terminologize that action is a different affair. The action itself is treasonous.
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You are using the term in a subjective manner. I'm not sure it is any more treasonous to kill a federal park officer than it is to kill a medical doctor. It may be treasonous but it is not legally treason. It is like claiming abortion is "murder." It might be from a person's moral viewpoint but not legally murder.
 
StoneByStone said:
It's not a coup if it's done democratically and legally. It's a coup if it's done violently and illegally. If Nancy Pelosi were to walk into the White House, whoop Trump's snowflake ass, and declare herself president, that would be a coup.
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What is a democratic coup? What is a legal coup? It would only be a (successful) coup if Nancy had the military behind her.
 
Flash said:
What is a democratic coup? What is a legal coup? It would only be a (successful) coup if Nancy had the military behind her.
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Reread what I said. It's NOT a coup if it's done democratically and legally. A coup is the violent and illegal seizing of power. When Republicans impeached Clinton, that was not a coup.
 
Flash said:
What is a democratic coup? What is a legal coup? It would only be a (successful) coup if Nancy had the military behind her.
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There is no coup, but Trump knows it is a term that is emotionally loaded and his suckers will buy in 100 percent.
 
Nordberg said:
Your computer is not the same as government and party organizations systems.
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Correct. My computer is properly secured.
Nordberg said:
The Russian hackers are far above your ability.
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No, they aren't. They simply can't get in.
Nordberg said:
We have a huge amount of money and expertise involved in protecting our military, and grids.
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Another vague claim and a compositional error. No, dude. Some systems are reasonably secured. Others are wide open to attack. It's the reason that many places no longer use Windows for servers.
Nordberg said:
Corporations spend a ton protecting theirs too.
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Some are even competent enough to succeed doing it. Places like Target sure weren't! A lot of places fall to phishing attacks, nothing to do with the computer system at all.
Nordberg said:
But, you may have noticed, they all get broken into.
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Compositional error and a vague statement again. No, they don't all get broken into. Some do, some don't.
Nordberg said:
The government has the best defenses and systems money can buy, but we all know they are still vulnerable.
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They are the often the least competent people out there when it comes to computers and their systems, dude. Your trust in government securing its computers is quite misplaced! These twits can barely put together a functioning website.

You believe the news media too much. Remember, they don't report what systems are NOT broken into!

Personally, I don't think the DNC computer was even hacked. The Democrats are just saying it was and that it was Russian hackers to keep their stupid case going against Trump. That computer does not control any election system.
 
Into the Night said:
Correct. My computer is properly secured.

No, they aren't. They simply can't get in.

Another vague claim and a compositional error. No, dude. Some systems are reasonably secured. Others are wide open to attack. It's the reason that many places no longer use Windows for servers.

Some are even competent enough to succeed doing it. Places like Target sure weren't! A lot of places fall to phishing attacks, nothing to do with the computer system at all.

Compositional error and a vague statement again. No, they don't all get broken into. Some do, some don't.

They are the often the least competent people out there when it comes to computers and their systems, dude. Your trust in government securing its computers is quite misplaced! These twits can barely put together a functioning website.

You believe the news media too much. Remember, they don't report what systems are NOT broken into!

Personally, I don't think the DNC computer was even hacked. The Democrats are just saying it was and that it was Russian hackers to keep their stupid case going against Trump. That computer does not control any election system.
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It's hard to argue with you delusional types
 
Into the Night said:
Correct. My computer is properly secured.

No, they aren't. They simply can't get in.

Another vague claim and a compositional error. No, dude. Some systems are reasonably secured. Others are wide open to attack. It's the reason that many places no longer use Windows for servers.

Some are even competent enough to succeed doing it. Places like Target sure weren't! A lot of places fall to phishing attacks, nothing to do with the computer system at all.

Compositional error and a vague statement again. No, they don't all get broken into. Some do, some don't.

They are the often the least competent people out there when it comes to computers and their systems, dude. Your trust in government securing its computers is quite misplaced! These twits can barely put together a functioning website.

You believe the news media too much. Remember, they don't report what systems are NOT broken into!

Personally, I don't think the DNC computer was even hacked. The Democrats are just saying it was and that it was Russian hackers to keep their stupid case going against Trump. That computer does not control any election system.
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Personally, who cares what you think? The DNC hacking was well known and corroborated. Rightys see conspiracies every place they look. There is plenty of valuable information on the computer systems. That is exactly what Trump's favorite president, Nixon, did. Remember why they broke into the Watergate?
 
Nordberg said:
Personally, who cares what you think? The DNC hacking was well known and corroborated. Rightys see conspiracies every place they look. There is plenty of valuable information on the computer systems. That is exactly what Trump's favorite president, Nixon, did. Remember why they broke into the Watergate?
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No, it ISN'T well known and corroborated. The Democrats have specifically not allowed anyone to investigate it except themselves. They just SAY it was hacked. So do you.

Did you know conspiracies actually exist? One of the biggest ones is Marxism.

Now you are moving the goalposts to Nixon. That has nothing to do with your claimed break-in concerning Russians or Trump. Nixon didn't break into your computer either. Watergate was about wiretapping.

You like to make stuff up. The Democrats like to make stuff up. I remain unconvinced the DNC computer was ever really hacked. Not by Russians or anyone else. You also have completely forgotten that the DNC computer does not control elections!
 
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