we'd have never encountered all the integration problems
I know you were using sarcasm, but it still sounds bad, it sounds racist.
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we'd have never encountered all the integration problems
I know you were using sarcasm, but it still sounds bad, it sounds racist.
Ahh too bad the old politics.com database is gone....
I have my memories though.
And so do some others here who remember that line you spewed.
Chicago was one ofthe first places to elect black politicians nd outlaw segregated schools. They were very tolerant of blacks until the 1920's nd then they slipped backwards.
I am not sure about Boston, have to go educate myself
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Dixie, The Southern Gentleman -- This has to be the greatest misperception about me. I believe pregnant women should be forced to bear a child regardless of circumstances. It's all about responsibility. If her education is interrupted or completely stopped, that's life. If she is unable to provide a decent life for the child she's forced to bear, that's life as well. Let the kid pull him/herself up by the boot straps. If the conditions are intolerable the State should just take her child although I'm comfortable about leaving a receipt. Like a gated government compound the government has a right to know when a woman opens her legs and any contents found therein.
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I wasn't being sarcastic, I was repeating what 3D said to me. I agree, it does sound VERY racist.
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No, you really don't. You are fantasizing again. The only way anyone could think I said this, is by deliberate misinterpretation. It's too bad the old politics.com database is gone, so you can use it to hide behind, like the sniveling little coward you are.
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Wow, I never knew Six Flags was such an "un-American" place! ...all those foreign flags!
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How many of them were secessionist traitors that spent their entire existence at war with the US?
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There is also the Harlem race riots, guess you forgot about those?
And what about this? Doesn't sound like blacks were exactly welcomed with open arms:
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/jimcrow/stories_events_red.html
On the afternoon of July 27, 1919, a stone-throwing melee between blacks and whites began after a black youth mistakenly swam into territory claimed by whites off the 29th Street beach in Chicago. Amidst the mayhem, Eugene Williams, a black youth, drowned. When a white police officer refused to arrest the white men involved in the death, and instead arrested a black man, racial tensions escalated. Fighting broke out between gangs and mobs of both races. Violence escalated with each incident, and for 13 days Chicago was in a state of turmoil. By the time the riot ended, 23 blacks and 15 whites were dead, 537 injured, and 1,000 black families were left homeless. The Chicago riot was part of a national racial frenzy of clashes, massacres, and lynchings throughout the North and the South. All of the incidents were initiated by whites. In Washington, D.C., from July 19 to 23, four whites and two blacks were killed; whites were astonished that blacks dared to fight back. The NEW YORK TIMES lamented the new black militancy: "There had been no trouble with the Negro before the war when most admitted the superiority of the white race."
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Hate to tell you, but secession is one of our most fundamental rights.
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
They also didn't spend their ENTIRE existence at war with the US, they did spend most of their existence battling Northern aggression.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_Race_Riot_(1863)
The Detroit Race Riot of 1863 occurred during the American Civil War on March 6, 1863 in the city of Detroit, Michigan. At the time, it was reported as “the bloodiest day that ever dawned upon Detroit.” It began due to unrest related to racism and the military draft.[1].
While not as famous or destructive as riots later in Detroit’s history, the riot of 1863 was certainly a momentous occasion for the city of Detroit.[2] The casualties of the day included at least two innocent people dead, a multitude of others, mostly African-American, mercilessly beaten. 35 buildings were burned to the ground, and a number of other buildings were damaged by fire.[2]
The riot resulted in the creation of a full-time police force for Detroit.[3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Race_Riot_of_1908
The Springfield Race Riot of 1908 was a mass civil disturbance in Springfield, Illinois, USA sparked by the transfer of two African American prisoners out of the city jail by the county sheriff. This act enraged many white citizens, who responded by burning black-owned homes and businesses and killing black citizens. By the end of the riot, there were at least seven deaths and US$200,000 in property damage. The riot led to the formation of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, a civil rights organization.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Race_Riot_of_1919
The Chicago Race Riot of 1919 was a major racial conflict that began in Chicago, Illinois on July 27, 1919 and ended on August 3.[1] During the riot, dozens died and hundreds were injured.[2] It is considered the worst of the approximately 25 riots during the Red Summer of 1919, so named because of the violence and fatalities across the nation.[3] The combination of prolonged arson, looting and murder was the worst race rioting in the history of Illinois.[4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlem_Riot_of_1935 (3d's shining example of black acceptance!)
The Harlem Riot of 1935 was Harlem's first race riot, sparked off by rumors of the beating of a teenage shoplifter. Three died, hundreds were wounded and an estimated $2 million in damages were sustained to properties throughout the district, with African-American owned homes and businesses spared the worst of the destruction.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_Race_Riot_(1943)
The Detroit Race Riot broke out in Detroit, Michigan in June 1943 and lasted for three days before Federal troops restored order. The rioting between blacks and whites began on Belle Isle on June 20, 1943 and continued until the 22nd of June , killing 34, wounding 433, and destroying property valued at $2 million.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlem_Riot_of_1943 (Ooops.... 3D's favorite example.... AGAIN!)
The Harlem Riot of 1943 took place in the borough of Harlem on August 1, after an African American soldier was shot and wounded by a white New York policeman.[1] On August 1, 1943, an NYPD policeman hit an African American woman who was being arrested for disturbing the peace at the Braddock Hotel in Harlem. Robert Bandy, a black soldier in the U.S. Army, tried to stop the police officer striking the woman again. The situation rapidly escalated; the police officer drew his service revolver and shot Bandy in the shoulder.
While Bandy was being brought to a nearby hospital, a crowd quickly gathered. An onlooker shouted that an African American soldier had been killed, provoking a riot.[1][2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlem_Riot_of_1964 (What's this? Another example of Northern hospitality toward blacks, 3D?)
The Harlem Riot of 1964 (New York City Race Riot [1]) was a racial confrontation between residents in several city boroughs and the New York City Police after an African American teenager was shot dead by an off-duty police officer on the Upper East Side of Manhattan. Statistics vary but it is estimated that 500 persons were injured, one man died and 465 men and women arrested [1]. Property damage was estimated to be between $500,000 and $1 million.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_1964_race_riot (What? In the "City of Brotherly Love?")
The Philadelphia race riot took place in the predominantly black neighborhoods of North Philadelphia from August 28 to August 30, 1964. Tensions between black residents of the city and police had been escalating for several months over several well-publicized allegations of police brutality.
This riot was one of the first in the civil rights era and followed the Rochester race riot and the New York City race riot.
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There are plenty of other examples, if you bother digging through history. It certainly doesn't sound like the North has a golden halo over her head, when it comes to racial harmony. Perhaps you forgot about these examples as you were running your ignorant mouth?
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Tell me, Dixie, why were anti-lynching laws such a heated debate during the 1920s? You'd think all regions would have supported or opposed them with equal tenacity...
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That's what is so fascinating about you 3D... you are completely PWNED and you just move on to something else. I guess you had no response to the rather lengthy list of Northern "hospitality" toward people of color? I'm disappointed! I was looking forward to how any of that was the fault of the South or the CSA! I guess it's all our fault because we got them agitated with the war, and if we hadn't done that, ol' Abe would have been able to peaceably herd them into boroughs and out of our hair, isn't that the point you made before? Why don't you tell us about that again, it was so REVEALING of who you are!
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Dixie, I could post a handful of examples from around the world where gravity is warped, like Deception Pass, CA, or places where water runs uphill. That doesn't mean I've just disproven the law of gravity.
Airstrip One
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Anyway, I have never claimed that Southern racism is the primary reason why I hate the South. The reasons why I hate the South mostly have to do with the way it always manages to set enlightened government and liberal economics back. It is particularly galling to see Southerners claiming to be both patriotic and proud southerners, when the two concepts have always been at odds. It's almost like a bisexual person bragging about their persuasion, because it's becoming viewed as trendy - yeah, you're proud to be with one gender, but you're still sleeping with the other. Congratulations, but there's no point in waving the US flag, when you also wave the old Battle Flag, which symbolized a rejection of the US, the Constitution, and American principles in general.
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Well that's where I think you are wrong on history. We simply disagree about this, and have had the argument before. There was a very fundamental private property right at the root of the whole 'slavery' issue, and THAT was the basis for the Southern position. By modern standards, it is quite uneasy thinking that negro slaves were 'property' but that is how the law defined them, not the Southerner. In fact, the US Supreme Court had repeatedly upheld the philosophy that slaves were property, and this had been the case since the founding of the country. That was not the fault of the South. They were defending their rights as citizens, to own property, and felt it was wrong for the government to take their property. This is a fundamental principle of our Constitution, still to this day!
We can distort perspectives and imagine a false illusion of the times, and pretend Northerners were against treating blacks unequally, but that is a fallacy and fantasy, not reality. The Northern abolitionist was much more likely to favor involuntary deportation of the freed slave to some ungodly part of the world to fend for themselves. They gave not one shit about having to live and work side by side with them. As evidenced by their 'hospitality' mentioned previously. The times, they were-a changin'... by the time of the Civil War, a large segment of people, led by mostly Quaker ministers, were challenging the status quot on the enslavement of black people, but this was by no means, a 'majority' of Americans, it was a very small percentage of people, who incidentally, didn't have many black people around to have to live with or deal with. A good many people, saw slavery as a "necessary evil" and this is also well-documented. They didn't like that we enslaved people, but they felt it was necessary. For whatever reasons, it DID exist as an accepted institution, and negro slaves were tangible legal property, owned by the plantations who grew cotton. From a legal standpoint, a slave was no different than a plow or mule. It belonged to the owner, according to ....NOT SOUTHERN LAW.... but United States Supreme Court LAW!
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Back to Africa movement did not include forced deportion. It was based on the cynical belief that freed blacks would never be able to find happiness in Anglo-American society, and would probably be better off returning to Africa.