The "Minutemen": a confluence of xenophobia and embezzlement

Socrtease said:
Their children get the advantage of our education system. Some states provide some healthcare to their children but the cost ain't what the doom and gloomers make it out to be. We benefit by the presence of illegal aliens in this county. It is a net gain.
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In LA county alone it was reported that it was at 276 Million per year. One county. Yes, one of the most populated, but still one county alone.

It isn't as easy to dismiss as you think.

And as I stated, do you not think some may take advantage of the fact that a child in the womb when they cross will be eligible to receive welfare immediately after it is born?

While recipients of welfare are not my main objection to the porous border, in fact having them over here isn't even an objection, it is certainly something that shouldn't be dismissed with just a wave of the "They aren't eligible for!" wand. It isn't that easy to dismiss, nor is ignoring the fact that many do collect forms of even federal welfare because of their children born here being immediately eligible.

BTW - My largest objection to the porous border has nothing to do with the people, it has to do with the fact that we do not know who is here, and in many places do nothing to ever find out including not allowing cops to even ask their status...

It hacks me off when I see another story about a murderer that was in custody twice that was never turned over to the Mexican Government for prosecution because of the idiotic laws that force our cops to work with no ability to even seek the identity of those who are here illegally. Open it up to legal immigration so we can at least know who is here and have a valid way to contact their government to return those who are wanted for prosecution.
 
Wrong-Wrong-Wrong.............

Socrtease said:
They DON'T qualify for medicaid, foodstamps or section 8 housing. NO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT qualifies for federally funded aid. Even after they become a citizen they are not eligible for federal aid for 5 years. State's do have programs for illegals and some do pay and like I said in an earlier post, States would NOT give them aid if it was not ecomonically viable to do so. So the point isn't moot.
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Counselor...check with Medicade etc...it is pushed on Illegals..they actually get preference on welfare benefits...do the homework before ya get to court!
 
Cypress said:
No, you don't give "leg" massages to 14 year old girls, even if they're your daughter. :eek:

This xenophobe is a criminal, a pervert, and an embezzler. I fondly remember the days when he and his organization were held up by bush fans, as shining examples of patriotism.
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Why would you give ANYONE a leg massage? Unless you were trying to feel up their leg?

Who in their right mind would use that defense? Honestly, that's about as good as Widestance Craig.
 
Battleborne said:
Counselor...check with Medicade etc...it is pushed on Illegals..they actually get preference on welfare benefits...do the homework before ya get to court!
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You are so full of shit your eyes are brown. Read the welfare reform act passed under Clinton. Further flatfoot, one of the women who works in our office right now is a naturalized citizen married to a resident alien and they get NO government support for medical or anything else. NOT eligible. Her kids do because they were born here, as Damo has pointed out, but illegals get none of that and I challenge you to prove that someone that did not commit a fraud, walked into their local income support division and got any federally funded assistance. ANY. You can't do it gumshoe. Put the lollipop back in your mouth and go find out who else loves ya baby, but don't try to ever presume to tell me about statutory law.
 
I think there should be a free movement of labour between all nations in North America, to create a unified market competitive with the European Union. I'm sure Mexico would be more willing to check for terrorists and stuff like that, Damo, if we'd do something like tha.

Heck, guys. The European Union has some nations in there that are dirt poor, and these people are willing to work for low pay. It hasn't hurt their economy at all. In fact, the European Union, the largest unified market in the world, is growing faster than America, the second largest unified market in the world. It just took a little adjusting.

It would also be good to have a unified North American Dollar.
 
Not to forget..............

Damocles said:
In LA county alone it was reported that it was at 276 Million per year. One county. Yes, one of the most populated, but still one county alone.

It isn't as easy to dismiss as you think.

And as I stated, do you not think some may take advantage of the fact that a child in the womb when they cross will be eligible to receive welfare immediately after it is born?

While recipients of welfare are not my main objection to the porous border, in fact having them over here isn't even an objection, it is certainly something that shouldn't be dismissed with just a wave of the "They aren't eligible for!" wand. It isn't that easy to dismiss, nor is ignoring the fact that many do collect forms of even federal welfare because of their children born here being immediately eligible.

BTW - My largest objection to the porous border has nothing to do with the people, it has to do with the fact that we do not know who is here, and in many places do nothing to ever find out including not allowing cops to even ask their status...

It hacks me off when I see another story about a murderer that was in custody twice that was never turned over to the Mexican Government for prosecution because of the idiotic laws that force our cops to work with no ability to even seek the identity of those who are here illegally. Open it up to legal immigration so we can at least know who is here and have a valid way to contact their government to return those who are wanted for prosecution.
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That the members of the infamous MS gangs originated from Mexico...sons and daughters of Illegal Aleins...just food for thought!
 
Yes...............!

Socrtease said:
You are so full of shit your eyes are brown. Read the welfare reform act passed under Clinton. Further flatfoot, one of the women who works in our office right now is a naturalized citizen married to a resident alien and they get NO government support for medical or anything else. NOT eligible. Her kids do because they were born here, as Damo has pointed out, but illegals get none of that and I challenge you to prove that someone that did not commit a fraud, walked into their local income support division and got any federally funded assistance. ANY. You can't do it gumshoe. Put the lollipop back in your mouth and go find out who else loves ya baby, but don't try to ever presume to tell me about statutory law.
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My eyes are 'Brown' and alot of girls said I have 'Bedroom eyes'...so what was your point again? The only one full of it is you counselor!


side note:Medicade is a State run Federal supported subsistance ..as is food stamps and housing...where did you go to Law School again...inquiring minds want to know?:rolleyes:
 
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Watermark said:
I think there should be a free movement of labour between all nations in North America, to create a unified market competitive with the European Union. I'm sure Mexico would be more willing to check for terrorists and stuff like that, Damo, if we'd do something like tha.

Heck, guys. The European Union has some nations in there that are dirt poor, and these people are willing to work for low pay. It hasn't hurt their economy at all. In fact, the European Union, the largest unified market in the world, is growing faster than America, the second largest unified market in the world. It just took a little adjusting.

It would also be good to have a unified North American Dollar.
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I'd support this over the current system of sweeping it under a rug and pretending it's all okay.
 
Damocles said:
I'd support this over the current system of sweeping it under a rug and pretending it's all okay.
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We need something different than NAFTA too. Just real free trade.

Mexico also needs to adopt some labor legislation. Else there will be an economic policy race to the bottom.
 
Battleborne said:
My eyes are 'Brown' and alot of girls said I have 'Bedroom eyes'...so what was your point again? The only one full of it is you counselor!


side note:Medicade is a State run Federal supported subsistance ..as is food stamps and housing...where did you go to Law School again...inquiring minds want to know?:rolleyes:
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And NO federal funds can go to illegals
 
OrnotBitwise said:
Agreed, but I still say that the real criminal is the con man, not the sucker. Even when the sucker is a racist right wing freako. ;)
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Think of it as the universe punishing dumbarse bigots or just a demonstration of the need for more critical thinking in the populus :D
 
Battleborne said:
I have to run for the night...but start here for your homework assignment...Counselor:

www.philvalentine.com/IllegalImmigration.htm


work your way thru the maze addressing benefits Illegals receive at the tax-payer expense!...Have a nice night!
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America gives out shit for what it takes in anyway. Do you think that the only way a person can contribute is by paying the government? Socialist cocksucker.

BTW, poor people take up far more than that vastly inflated figure. Deport the poor or else America will die!
 
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