ZenMode
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You think your mouth and stomach can "want"?
Where do emotions originate? Do you think your stomach gets sad?
The most important unresolved scientific questions, in my opinion.
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Where do emotions originate? Do you think your stomach gets sad?
Well, you think your brain drinks beer.
ZenMode
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Tell me specifically where I said your brain drinks beer.
You said the person does not want the beer, the brain does. I asked you how the brain can drink beer.
ZenMode
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Rights, so where did I say a brain can drink beer again?
I did not say you said it. It is an implication of your theory.
ZenMode
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"Well, you think your brain drinks beer"
Yes, inference.
ZenMode
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Thus ends the conversation....
Clearly you have never had a philosophical discussion before. What I am saying is quite standard and normal.
You seem to be a literalist and do not understand implication. If I mean to quote your words, I would use quotation marks.
ZenMode
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It would be physically impossible for a brain to drink beer. I have no desire to try to have a serious conversation with someone who is clearly not taking the conversation seriously.
Materialist arguments have been around at least 2500 years starting with Democritus.
So nothing you are arguing for has not been around for a long time.
Nor is my refutation original.
No. You do not know how to have an argument. That is fine, many do not.
From the net.
Despite lacking a brain, box jellyfish can learn from experience and exhibit behaviors such as associative learning and obstacle dodging.
While the jellyfish lacks a centralized brain, it has a visual system nestled within four neuron clusters. Called rhopalia, each cluster has some thousand neurons and six eyes. Besides assisting with visual cues, this rhopalial nervous system has various other functions, including that of a swim pacemaker.
www.advancedsciencenews.com
Box jellyfish show surprising ability to learn without a brain - Advanced Science News
Learning from experience was believed to be restricted to more advanced creatures, but in a first, Caribbean jellyfish were shown to learn from past mistakes.
www.advancedsciencenews.com
People often think their words mean more than they do.
I just said - and backed with peer reviewed studies, that we DON'T know that the universe is expanding and that there is skepticism in the scientific community.
Observations are mathematical. The behaviour of objects in reference to photonic evidence can be explained by the objects moving away from a central location - hence the idea of a "big bang."
But that is no the only explanation for the discrepancy - distortion caused by curvature - roughly like a fisheye lens view, also explains this - and in fact better explains it.
Absolutely. There is NO evidence for any gods. We agree on that.
There also is no evidence that there are any sentient beings on any planet circling the nearest 20 stars to Sol.
I am sure we can agree on that also.
I think it is absurd to blindly guess (believe, suppose, think, assume, presume) that at least one exists.
We agree there also.
I have no idea of what that was all about.
The default should be we do not know if any gods exist or not. We do not know the mechanics of how this thing we humans call "the universe" came into being.
YOUR actual default has nothing to do with what you are suggesting in the above sentence. YOUR actual default is, "There are no gods."
Are there any sentient beings that exist on any planet circling the nearest 20 stars to Sol?
"I do not know" makes a hell of a lot more sense than "We have no evidence that any do...therefore there are no sentient beings existing on any of those planets."
Okay, We agree that you do not know (with absolute certainty...or KNOW at all) that there are no gods.
Like you, I see no reason to blindly guess (believe, suppose, think, assume, presume) that there is one. There also is not reason to blindly guess (believe, suppose, think, assume, presume) that none exist.
That was the problem I had with your comment that no god exists.
I have as much problem with "no gods exist" as I have with "there is a GOD."
Both comments are absurd...nothing but blind guesses.
The universe has been experimentally determined to be geometrically flat (no positive or negative curvature) out to the observable cosmic horizon, within the limits of experimental precision.
In theory, any positive or negative curvature to the fabric of the universe would only be noticeable in the larger universe beyond our cosmic horizon and beyond observation.
The only substantial curvature of space at cosmic scales comes locally from gravitational lensing, but that is well understood and can be mitigated for in cosmic experimental measurement.