Your post is laughable.
52 convictions justifies disenfranchising 25 million voters?
Get serious.
Your post is laughable.
52 convictions justifies disenfranchising 25 million voters?
Get serious.
icedancer2theend
Verified User
No one but disingenuous lefties use the term "rampant" in order to distract from what takes place in mostly democratic precincts. The Troy case perfectly exemplifies democratic voter fraud. Because you are too stupid to know that in NY a candidate can be simultaneously on a ballot as a Working Families Party and as a Democrat, aka "fusion voting", you miss the emphasis of such fraud fatso.
icedancer2theend
Verified User
What's not laughable is that you are so moronic that you think because only a "few elections are thrown" due to fraud nothing should be done. Further you think that elections are not worth protection from fraud by implementing an easy fix i.e. an ID. It was not I, but a former US Justice Secretary and a former Democratic president who believed it necessary.
The only ones not taking this serious are you myopic idiots on the left.
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apple0154
MEOW
Surely if anyone has the right and need to vote it's a felon. Who, more than a felon, would like to see laws changed?
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Guns Guns Guns
Guest
Let's see some evidence of voter ID fraud.
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show where dune provided post after post
my hunch is you will provide nothing as usual
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already been shown liar troll
sedan
red panda
Then put a little more effort into explaining yourself; because the only one's bringing up the word "rampant", are those that don't care about voter fraud.
I did not bring up the word "rampant".
Nor did I ever suggest that voter fraud should not be a crime.
However, I cannot prevent you from drawing erroneous inferences!
sedan
red panda
This is an excellent excerpt from a 2007 Human Events article!
What I find very interesting is that even your own "facts" show how miniscule the problem of voter fraud actually is. 52 convictions in 5 years? Is this what gets you people so worked up? I find that very hard to believe.
USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
You could try understanding what I've wrote and not what you wanted to read.
Would you care to show where I said YOU used the word rampant?
icedancer2theend
Verified User
52 convictions of 82 charged individuals after investigating 180 cases. That you think any voter fraud should be allowed is what is remarkable when a simple fix is available. "In a narrow election a small amount of fraud may be enough to change the result. If the result is not affected, fraud can still have a damaging effect if not punished, as it can reduce voters' confidence in democracy. Even the perception of fraud can be damaging as it makes people less inclined to accept election results."
This is what got the bi-partisan Commission on Federal Election Reform worked up, not me. Below are the several ways that voter fraud can happen. Prosecuting voter fraud is very difficult- Voter ID's would go a long way in reducing the incidences of voter fraud.
- Electorate manipulation
- Gerrymandering
- Manipulation of demography
- Disenfranchisement
- Intimidation
- Vote buying
- Misinformation
- Misleading or confusing ballot papers
- Ballot stuffing
- Misrecording of votes
- Misuse of proxy votes
- Destruction or invalidation of ballots
sedan
red panda
First you say I should explain myself when I have written a perfectly understandable post.
Now you say I should try to understand what you have written?
Very well, I will try again.
OK, you were responding to me and decided to talk about someone else using the word "rampant".
Maybe you should have tried to answer my post instead of arguing with someone else.
Rationalist
Hail Voltaire
Glad to hear there's no such thing as voter fraud. So I guess Republicans didn't steal the 2000 election after all.
sedan
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perhaps we should call the troll dunegion.
Crashk
Unite or Die
Yeaaaa..... the news is filled with stories of people voting illegally. The only reason this always comes up is because they realize the more people vote the worse they lose. The right has always tried to suppress the vote.
REPORT: From Poll Taxes To Voter ID Laws: A Short History of Conservative Voter Suppression
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2...rt-history-of-conservative-voter-suppression/
In the 1964 presidential elections, a young political operative named Bill guarded a largely African-American polling place in South Phoenix, Arizona like a bull mastiff.
Bill was a legal whiz who knew the ins and outs of voting law and insisted that every obscure provision be applied, no matter what. He even made those who spoke accented English interpret parts of the constitution to prove that they understood it. The lines were long, people fought, got tired or had to go to work, and many of them left without voting. It was a notorious episode long remembered in Phoenix political circles.
It turned out that it was part of a Republican Party strategy known as “Operation Eagle Eye”, and “Bill” was future Supreme Court Justice William Rehnquist. He was confronted with his intimidation tactics in his confirmation hearings years later, and characterized his behavior as simple arbitration of polling place disputes. In doing so, he set a standard for GOP dishonesty and obfuscation surrounding voting rights that continues to this day."
http://obrag.org/?p=45582
This is how the right continues to hold any kind of power in our govt.
REPORT: From Poll Taxes To Voter ID Laws: A Short History of Conservative Voter Suppression
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2...rt-history-of-conservative-voter-suppression/
In the 1964 presidential elections, a young political operative named Bill guarded a largely African-American polling place in South Phoenix, Arizona like a bull mastiff.
Bill was a legal whiz who knew the ins and outs of voting law and insisted that every obscure provision be applied, no matter what. He even made those who spoke accented English interpret parts of the constitution to prove that they understood it. The lines were long, people fought, got tired or had to go to work, and many of them left without voting. It was a notorious episode long remembered in Phoenix political circles.
It turned out that it was part of a Republican Party strategy known as “Operation Eagle Eye”, and “Bill” was future Supreme Court Justice William Rehnquist. He was confronted with his intimidation tactics in his confirmation hearings years later, and characterized his behavior as simple arbitration of polling place disputes. In doing so, he set a standard for GOP dishonesty and obfuscation surrounding voting rights that continues to this day."
http://obrag.org/?p=45582
This is how the right continues to hold any kind of power in our govt.