The Netherlands still practicing Socialist Euthanasia of the Mentally Ill

Flash said:
Not really, and certainly not in practice. The Netherlands, Belgium, Canada, Colombia, Switzerland, and Luxembourg allow euthanasia. But these are individual decisions made by the person, not the state.

And, none of these countries are socialist.
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Bigdog knows very little about forms of government.
 
Flash said:
Not really, and certainly not in practice. The Netherlands, Belgium, Canada, Colombia, Switzerland, and Luxembourg allow euthanasia. But these are individual decisions made by the person, not the state.

And, none of these countries are socialist.
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Yes, really. In socialism, "the experts" rule, and they view the citizens as cattle. "Experts" are the new priesthood.

The State should not be involved in such matters.

Hitler had a massive welfare State that included Obamacare.
 
Bigdog said:
Yes, really. In socialism, "the experts" rule, and they view the citizens as cattle. "Experts" are the new priesthood.

The State should not be involved in such matters.

Hitler had a massive welfare State that included Obamacare.
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The state should not be involved in what matters? Are you referring to euthanasia? If the state does not get involved that means there are no laws or restrictions on euthanasia making it legal.

If euthanasia and socialism are somehow related why is it no socialist nations allow it?
 
The "conservatives" in this country wail like banshees about "entitlements", abortion and welfare and the like. The GOP vote AGAINST proposals that contain increased financing for better mental health treatment for the American people, sex education and availability of contraceptives to teenagers. And now the OP.

So they want it both ways....you have that baby no matter what the circumstances, you are to be kept alive regardless....just don't ask them to help pay for helping you out in any shape form or matter. Just stay out of sight and out of mind...but you better damn sure clean their toilets, city buildings and sidewalks, take care of their kids, etc. After that, crawl off and die somewhere.

:|
 
Flash said:
The state should not be involved in what matters? Are you referring to euthanasia? If the state does not get involved that means there are no laws or restrictions on euthanasia making it legal.

If euthanasia and socialism are somehow related why is it no socialist nations allow it?
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It should not be the place of State bureaucrat to approve or deny permission to commit suicide, nor should the State take responsibility for the execution and performance of the suicide.

Will the experts establish racial quotas?

If the State approves euthanasic of a disproportionate number of Blacks or homosexuals, will you scream systemic racism? These are real issues. The story is about the State executing a 29 year old white girl; would you still applaud this State execution if it was a Black girl?

Are you claiming euthanasia performed by the State is a conservative plank?

How is abortion not euthanasia?
 
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Bigdog said:
It should not be the place of State bureaucrat to approve or deny permission to commit suicide, nor should the State take responsibility for the execution and performance of the suicide.
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Agreed

Bigdog said:
Will the experts establish racial quotas?
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It hasn't happened in those states that allow euthanasia. I don't think that is an issue.

Bigdog said:
If the State approves euthanasic of a disproportionate number of Blacks or homosexuals, will you scream systemic racism? These are real issues. The story is about the State executing a 29 year old white girl; would you still applaud this State execution if it was a Black girl?
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I won't scream. I don't believe euthanasia is a racial issue.

Bigdog said:
Are you claiming euthanasia performed by the State is a conservative plank?
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Conservatives usually oppose euthanasia although it goes against their philosophy of individual freedom and limited government.

Bigdog said:
How is abortion not euthanasia?
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If the state should not get involved in one neither should it be involved in the other. Bureaucrats should not be approving or denying permission.
 
Bigdog said:
"And the vast majority of the 6,585 deaths from euthanasia in the Netherlands in 2017 were cases of people with a physical disease. But 83 people were euthanised on the grounds of psychiatric suffering. So these were people - like Aurelia - whose conditions were not necessarily terminal.

Aurelia Brouwers' wish to die came with a long history of mental illness.

"When I was 12, I suffered from depression. And when I was first diagnosed, they told me I had Borderline Personality Disorder," she says. "Other diagnoses followed - attachment disorder, chronic depression, I'm chronically suicidal, I have anxiety, psychoses, and I hear voices."

Aurelia's doctors would not endorse her requests for euthanasia. So she applied to the Levenseindekliniek - the End of Life Clinic - in The Hague. This is a place of last resort for those whose applications have been rejected by their own psychiatrist or GP. The clinic oversaw 65 of the 83 deaths approved on psychiatric grounds in the Netherlands last year, though only about 10% of psychiatric applications are approved, and the process can take years."

https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-45117163
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As long as they kill leftists, I'm fine with it.
 
ChaiLatteLiberal said:
The GOP vote AGAINST proposals that contain increased financing for better mental health treatment for the American people, sex education and availability of contraceptives to teenagers.
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So you say. In fact, they vote against agenda-driven porkulus packages and child sex.
 
Flash said:
Agreed
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It hasn't happened in those states that allow euthanasia. I don't think that is an issue.
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Because those States have Black pops. way below the national average.

I won't scream. I don't believe euthanasia is a racial issue.
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To the Dems, everything is racial. Everything has to proportionate according to skin color, gender, sexual prefercne, etc..



Conservatives usually oppose euthanasia although it goes against their philosophy of individual freedom and limited government.
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Yes, it is a socialist plank. :thup: I don't oppose giving a cancer patient a morphine drip for pain, and a little button they can press until they OD.

If the state should not get involved in one neither should it be involved in the other. Bureaucrats should not be approving or denying permission.
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Unborn babies have no voice. Just like with animals, someone has to speak for them.

The Leftist need to stop calling unborn humans ... parasites or blobs of cells. Call it what it is, a legal execution of an innocent human life. Just be honest about it.

Libertarians are actually split on protecting the innocent unborns' right to life, and the rights of the mother to kill her unborn.
 
Save for a few exceptions like Oom and the diseased orangutan, the Dutch are socially light years ahead of us.

I have been advocating for humane euthanasia for my entire adult life.
It is an important secular humanist issue being thwarted by religious Neanderthals in America.

A nation comprised of people who genuinely hate one another will always be an unnecessarily stressful place to live,
that's exactly what we are,
and a significant part of the blame goes to religious fucking morons.
 
Bigdog said:
Are you condemning the gov't of the Netherlands for their socialist policy?
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Which socialist policy? Euthanasia is allowed in a few very specific circumstances and under strict control. The patient's suffering must be unbearable and hopeless. It must persist over time. It has to be voluntary. The patient must be fully aware. The circumstances have to be confirmed by other doctors.
Bigdog better find another way.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Save for a few exceptions like Oom and the diseased orangutan, the Dutch are socially light years ahead of us.

I have been advocating for humane euthanasia for my entire adult life.
It is an important secular humanist issue being thwarted by religious Neanderthals in America.

A nation comprised of people who genuinely hate one another will always be an unnecessarily stressful place to live,
that's exactly what we are,
and a significant part of the blame goes to religious fucking morons.
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That's because you Socialists only see humans as cattle, just another species of animal, nothing sacred about human life to a socialist, except for their own lives.

So you agree with the Dutch that 12 year olds should be legal to fuck. :palm:

You are evil and filled with hate.
 
Nordberg said:
Which socialist policy? Euthanasia is allowed in a few very specific circumstances and under strict control. The patient's suffering must be unbearable and hopeless. It must persist over time. It has to be voluntary. The patient must be fully aware. The circumstances have to be confirmed by other doctors.
Bigdog better find another way.
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The white girl in the op was depressed, and probably not mentally competent. And the unborn are certainly NOT volunteering to be euthanized.

If one can get the bureaucrats to approve your suicide, then one can absolve themselves of personal responsibility in the matter, and blame the State.
 
Bigdog said:
That's because you Socialists only see humans as cattle, just another species of animal, nothing sacred about human life to a socialist, except for their own lives.

So you agree with the Dutch that 12 year olds should be legal to fuck. :palm:

You are evil and filled with hate.
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Your condemnation is my tribute. Thank you.
 
Bigdog said:
The white girl in the op was depressed, and probably not mentally competent. And the unborn are certainly NOT volunteering to be euthanized.

If one can get the bureaucrats to approve your suicide, then one can absolve themselves of personal responsibility in the matter, and blame the State.
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Mental illness can be excruciating to live with, you must know that feeling. And she did not drop in and say kill me. She had to go through the same procedures. Her parents had to sign on and doctors had to agree. They have to agree the illness is insolvable.
 
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