The party of Trump reduces food subsidies for poor Americans

[Tbird19482]

Trump compared to others who have been Presidents or even worse, Congress critters, is an amateur in that respect.

And in doing so Trump is breaking the Emolument clause of the Constitution.
It is time somebody did their job and removed him from office before he destroys this country.

 

[Jake Starkey]

Yes, I do. What I dislike is people voting to enrich themselves at my expense.

If you mean corporate welfare, I agree.

If it is a cheap hit at the social safety net, step off.

 

[Jake Starkey]

No, I don't. I expect people to make the most of their situation and work to improve it. As for veterans, most, the vast majority are very successful people. Sure there are failures too. I also don't count as a veteran someone who failed to finish their service honorably, particularly those with less than a year of service.

A good portion are also single mothers almost always due to stupid decisions they made with relationships. Not my problem.

LBJ screwed the country royally.

Yeah, it is your and our problem. They have children that can be real problems if not well supported into adulthood where they can build a good life for themselves and their children.

 

[Into the Night]

Care to link to a half million court cases proving a half million cases of fraud?

Insufficient room, Wally.
The discussion is not about a court cast (yet).

Claiming that fraud exists is very different than proving it in court.

Court has nothing to do with such claims. Non-sequitur fallacy.

First thing is trump would have to come up with specific cases(and people).

Trump is not a prosecutor, Wally.

Then he would have to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.

That will be no problem.

We have already seen this tactic from trump before. A crazy number is released, and then he hopes we all forget it within a week or two. There is nothing backing it up.

Lie. Denial.
Illiteracy: Proper nouns are always capitalized.

Why do you support fraud, and organized crime, Wally?

 

[Into the Night]

Yeah, it is your and our problem. They have children that can be real problems if not well supported into adulthood where they can build a good life for themselves and their children.

Not a problem, Stooge. Such children grow up in the world of hard knocks, and often become quite successful out of it.
Far more than YOU will ever be.

 

[Into the Night]

And in doing so Trump is breaking the Emolument clause of the Constitution.

He has never done so, Tball. You are describing Biden and Democrats again. Inversion fallacy.

It is time somebody did their job and removed him from office before he destroys this country.

The country is not being destroyed, Tball.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Yeah, it is your and our problem. They have children that can be real problems if not well supported into adulthood where they can build a good life for themselves and their children.

That doesn't change with welfare. Kids stuck in a homelife situation with loser parents who, variously, do drugs, crime, gang shit, and the like, or have loser on-again, off-again jobs don't do well into adulthood. The stupid don't generally build a "good life for themselves." They are trapped by their own bad decisions.

 

[Jake Starkey]

That does change with welfare. So many more achieve success with it than without it.

The liberts never get it is cheaper to pay for them up front than on the backend, and, yes, we will pay one way or another.

 

[Walt]

Court has nothing to do with such claims.

So it is claimed that half a million people have been caught committing a crime, but there will be no attempt to prove it in court, and no one in particular will be accused? So what is the point?

 

[مرگ بر آمریکا]

Trump cares nothing for the suffering of his own people.

 

[Jake Starkey]

That's true, but we do, and we will have you suffer before us if you keep it up.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

That does change with welfare. So many more achieve success with it than without it.

Actually, few achieve success with or without it. While data on this is thin--it appears that the success rate for welfare recipients isn't generally tracked--what data there is shows the vast majority either are stuck on welfare, cycle on and off it, or drop out of the programs while never achieving a sustainable lifestyle.

https://aspe.hhs.gov/reports/leavers-stayers-cyclers-analysis-welfare-caseload-0

The other negative is since the ADA passed, it has become quite the industry for people to get on "disability."

Unfit for Work: The startling rise of disability in America

In the past three decades, the number of Americans who are on disability has skyrocketed. The rise has come even as medical advances have allowed many more people to remain on the job and new laws have banned workplace discrimination against the disabled. Every month, 14 million people now get a...

apps.npr.org

The liberts never get it is cheaper to pay for them up front than on the backend, and, yes, we will pay one way or another.

What the "liberts" fail to get is that a big chunk of those on welfare or disability shouldn't be.

 

[مرگ بر آمریکا]

That's true, but we do, and we will have you suffer before us if you keep it up.

You have not the strength to break our resistance.

Many a "weaker" nation has successfully preserved its national identity despite the bumptious efforts of self-entitled American imperialists.

 

[Into the Night]

That does change with welfare. So many more achieve success with it than without it.

The liberts never get it is cheaper to pay for them up front than on the backend, and, yes, we will pay one way or another.

Communism never works, Stooge. It's a LOT more expensive then charity. Did you forget again the huge chunk the government takes?

Illegal immigrants are no longer eligible for SNAP.

 

[Into the Night]

So it is claimed that half a million people have been caught committing a crime,

Every single illegal immigrant has committed a crime, Wally. Every single bit of federal fraud is a crime, Wally.

but there will be no attempt to prove it in court, and no one in particular will be accused? So what is the point?

Lie. Denial.

 

[Jake Starkey]

Actually, few achieve success with or without it. While data on this is thin--it appears that the success rate for welfare recipients isn't generally tracked--what data there is shows the vast majority either are stuck on welfare, cycle on and off it, or drop out of the programs while never achieving a sustainable lifestyle.

https://aspe.hhs.gov/reports/leavers-stayers-cyclers-analysis-welfare-caseload-0

The other negative is since the ADA passed, it has become quite the industry for people to get on "disability."

Unfit for Work: The startling rise of disability in America

In the past three decades, the number of Americans who are on disability has skyrocketed. The rise has come even as medical advances have allowed many more people to remain on the job and new laws have banned workplace discrimination against the disabled. Every month, 14 million people now get a...

apps.npr.org

What the "liberts" fail to get is that a big chunk of those on welfare or disability shouldn't be.

Nonsense. You will pay for it up front or on the back end. Better odds for a better society up front.

You just want to yell 'get off my lawn.'

 

[Jake Starkey]

You have not the strength to break our resistance.

Many a "weaker" nation has successfully preserved its national identity despite the bumptious efforts of self-entitled American imperialists.

Of course, we can. You are among the weakest people on earth.

 

[مرگ بر آمریکا]

Of course, we can. You are among the weakest people on earth.

History throughout 25 centuries gives you the lie. Trump is no Alexander of Macedonia.

 

[countryboy]

The bill locks in $187 billion in SNAP cuts that were already enacted through last year's reconciliation package. According to Farm Aid, those cuts affect roughly 42 million Americans who rely on food assistance. Democrats called it the largest cuts to food assistance in U.S. history,

MSN

And an Iranian dog would care about this why?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

History throughout 25 centuries gives you the lie. Trump is no Alexander of Macedonia.

But you are, a Bagdad Bob.