The President of Iran is a Moron

Fair enough. To me, though, that only makes the public scramble to pile on the "Ahmedinejad is a maniac" float seem really petty and foolish. Let the man's silly pronouncements speak for themselves: there's no need to manipulate it to look as bad as possible.

To some extent, of course, that's just what the press and politicians do these days.

I didn't see the interview, but now I'll have to, as soon as I have time.

I'll tell you this though, whatever I might think of him, I was embarrassed about what went on here yesterday.

"The evil has landed"? "Go to Hell"?

We look ridiculous. Like a bunch of hysterical, suburban, upper-middle class, stay at home moms who saw bugs in their pools. Give me a break!
 
If Hitler said something critical of GWB, Black would trip over himself drooling about what a "beautiful" man Hitler was.
 
I didn't see the interview, but now I'll have to, as soon as I have time.

I'll tell you this though, whatever I might think of him, I was embarrassed about what went on here yesterday.

"The evil has landed"? "Go to Hell"?

We look ridiculous. Like a bunch of hysterical, suburban, upper-middle class, stay at home moms who saw bugs in their pools. Give me a break!


I agree. The authoritarian rightwing needs to create monsters to feed their fear and paranoia. And to satiate their lust for war mongering.

The president of Iran is a sexist little theocrat. We look childish and silly, being this petty. He is quite capable of making himself look like a fool, with his own statements about gays, women, and jews. All we have to do is sit back, and let him drive.

Attacking him, only strenghthens his own position in Iran.
 
I didn't see the interview, but now I'll have to, as soon as I have time.

I'll tell you this though, whatever I might think of him, I was embarrassed about what went on here yesterday.

"The evil has landed"? "Go to Hell"?

We look ridiculous. Like a bunch of hysterical, suburban, upper-middle class, stay at home moms who saw bugs in their pools. Give me a break!
Exactly. :)
 
I agree. The authoritarian rightwing needs to create monsters to feed their fear and paranoia. And to satiate their lust for war mongering.

The president of Iran is a sexist little theocrat. We look childish and silly, being this petty. He is quite capable of making himself look like a fool, with his own statements about gays, women, and jews. All we have to do is sit back, and let him drive.

Attacking him, only strenghthens his own position in Iran.
And, as BAC has been pointing out, just because he says one stupid thing -- or three, or ten -- doesn't mean that everything he says is stupid. The cons have been saying this for years about Bush and they've been right. As Sarge used to say, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

In other words, not everything Ahmedinejad says is necessarily false.
 
And, as BAC has been pointing out, just because he says one stupid thing -- or three, or ten -- doesn't mean that everything he says is stupid. The cons have been saying this for years about Bush and they've been right. As Sarge used to say, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

In other words, not everything Ahmedinejad says is necessarily false.


No, I'm not saying everything he said was stupid. He understands the root causes of terrorism far better than our Dear Leader.
 
Yeah like his "We have no homosexuals in Iran." comment.

That was sheer, undisputed brilliance.

What a great guy.

He made Bolinger look like a fool for his attack on him which was designed to play to the audience to make nice for inviting him.

His answer to the Israeli/holocaust question was brilliant and it set Bolinger back on his heels.

Bolinger had no answer for "who are the real terrorists in Iraq?" .. and articulated why there is no real coalition in Iraq

He reminded the world that Saddam was our puppet and we gave him the chemical weapons he used

He reminded all who complianed about capital punishment in Iraq that we have capital punishment and the idiot we call "Mr. President" was the king of capital punishment in Texas

He spoke of the Palestinians and their plight with a more humane and rational argument than you'll get from 90% of American politicians and spoke of Washington being the Israeli occupied territory that the world knows it is

He was brilliant on the question of science and why should a few nations be allowed to determine who gets it and who doesn't .. and why should his nation have to beg for what they can do for themselves

He was absolutely brilliant and right on point on how the west plunders other nations for resources, then keeps those nations from their own resources, ala, Iran and many other quest of piracy .. which is exactly why we invaded Iraq in the first place, mass-murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent people in the process.

You don't like him or what he said .. OK
 
That was LOL funny.
Well, you know it just doesn't happen there... Not at all. That's why they write a law against it. Clearly when you don't have something happening at all in your nation you just make laws for the fun of it in your spare time...

;)

Bollinger's opening statement was an attempt to get some people on his side that otherwise were angry at him. However, I didn't see this great response from Ahmadenijad. He looked like an idiot. "That was rude..." then started speaking on something else. It was pretty much a prepared speech where he totally ignored the question then said what he planned regardless of the subject of the question.

As I said, like the 1996 Presidential Debates....
 
Well, you know it just doesn't happen there... Not at all. That's why they write a law against it. Clearly when you don't have something happening at all in your nation you just make laws for the fun of it in your spare time...

;)

Bollinger's opening statement was an attempt to get some people on his side that otherwise were angry at him. However, I didn't see this great response from Ahmadenijad. He looked like an idiot. "That was rude..." then started speaking on something else. It was pretty much a prepared speech where he totally ignored the question then said what he planned regardless of the subject of the question.

As I said, like the 1996 Presidential Debates....

I'll watch it, until then I can't comment on Ahmadenijad's performance. As for Bollinger's statement which was all over the press, I was disgusted. It was clearly pandering to the segements of our society who didn't want Ahmadenijad to speak there.

It's nice to know that our "opposition party," are not the only ones dying to fall to their knees in self-abasement before the American right wing machine. At least when the time comes, they won't have to bother rounding up our intellectual class. They'll already be on their knees waiting to serve.
 
Here is Juan Cole, below. I'm sure he has much of this correct, as to why the right wants war with Iran, and in fact, is already on warfooting. But I have this feeling that it has a lot to do with everything said after the first gulf war. If you remember, we had "put those Vietnam ghosts to rest". Basically, and these are the best terms I can put it in, America lost its hardon in Vietnam and the Gulf War made it a man again.

I think we've lost our hardon again, in Iraq, and the hawks want to make men out of us again a lot quicker this time. And as for the bill in human lives? Well, that's not a number that interests them very much, as Colin Powell himself has said about Iraqi lives before.

Sept. 24, 2007 * Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's visit to New York to address the United Nations General Assembly has become a media circus. But the controversy does not stem from the reasons usually cited.

The media has focused on debating whether he should be allowed to speak at Columbia University on Monday, or whether his request to visit Ground Zero, the site of the Sept. 11 attack in lower Manhattan, should have been honored. His request was rejected, even though Iran expressed sympathy with the United States in the aftermath of those attacks and Iranians held candlelight vigils for the victims. Iran felt that it and other Shiite populations had also suffered at the hands of al-Qaida, and that there might now be an opportunity for a new opening to the United States.

Instead, the U.S. State Department denounced Ahmadinejad as himself little more than a terrorist. Critics have also cited his statements about the Holocaust or his hopes that the Israeli state will collapse. He has been depicted as a Hitler figure intent on killing Israeli Jews, even though he is not commander in chief of the Iranian armed forces, has never invaded any other country, denies he is an anti-Semite, has never called for any Israeli civilians to be killed, and allows Iran's 20,000 Jews to have representation in Parliament.

There is, in fact, remarkably little substance to the debates now raging in the United States about Ahmadinejad. His quirky personality, penchant for outrageous one-liners, and combative populism are hardly serious concerns for foreign policy. Taking potshots at a bantam cock of a populist like Ahmadinejad is actually a way of expressing another, deeper anxiety: fear of Iran's rising position as a regional power and its challenge to the American and Israeli status quo. The real reason his visit is controversial is that the American right has decided the United States needs to go to war against Iran. Ahmadinejad is therefore being configured as an enemy head of state.

The neoconservatives are even claiming that the United States has been at war with Iran since 1979. As Glenn Greenwald points out, this assertion is absurd. In the '80s, the Reagan administration sold substantial numbers of arms to Iran. Some of those beating the war drums most loudly now, like think-tank rat Michael Ledeen, were middlemen in the Reagan administration's unconstitutional weapons sales to Tehran. The sales would have been a form of treason if in fact the United States had been at war with Iran at that time, so Ledeen is apparently accusing himself of treason.

But the right has decided it is at war with Iran, so a routine visit by Iran's ceremonial president to the U.N. General Assembly has generated sparks. The foremost cheerleader for such a view in Congress is Sen. Joseph Lieberman, I-Conn., who recently pressed Gen. David Petraeus on the desirability of bombing Iran in order to forestall weapons smuggling into Iraq from that country (thus cleverly using one war of choice to foment another).
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2007/09/24/ahmadinejad/
 
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