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[gfm7175]

The vast majority of the hate and violence in America now comes from the Left.

Even throughout all of history, the vast majority of hate and violence has come from the Left. The Demonkkkrat Party has always been the Party of racism, hatred, and division. That has not changed since 1828.

 

[McRocket]

Don't respond to my posts if you have no clue what you are talking about ,The criminals and traitors are Trump and his supporters and the supporters of jan6 . They are this countries biggest threat and enemy. A major majority of the hate party supports Trump and a major majority of the hate party supports Jan 6. So that is who the republican party is. Just about every hate party politicians supports this criminal and that makes the republican party poison and Traitorous and this countries biggest threat and enemy. You join them or you stay in this hate group and you are simply my enemy and the enemy of every patriot in this country. The conservatives that are lost in this hate group should tear down the shit party and start another one based on conservative values and not hate driven like this clown group is now

1) I will respond to your posts ANYTIME I feel like it. So you can forget that order.

2) you have offered ZERO link(s) to back up your ridiculous claims.

3) you do not even know 1% of all conservatives.
To make blanket assumptions about people whom you do not even know is beyond stupidity.
Imo, it is borderline emotional disturbance.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

extreme violence

if there were actual extreme violence, you'd wet your panties

 

[Legion]

You do not move on from the most dangerous attack in the country since the civil war.

I'm pretty sure this happened after 1865.

1954 Shooting in the House Chamber

On March 1, 1954, while Members gathered on the House Floor for an upcoming vote, three men and one woman entered the visitor’s gallery above the chamber and quietly took their seats. All four belonged to the Puerto Rican Nationalist Party and only hours earlier had traveled from New York City to Washington, DC.

The United States had annexed Puerto Rico in 1898, and the island’s relationship with the federal government had long been a point of contention. Some Puerto Ricans sought to maintain their relationship with the mainland, and others, like the four visitors in the House that day, argued for an independent Puerto Rico.

The Capitol had few security protocols at the time, and the four Puerto Rican nationalists entered the gallery armed with handguns. Around 2:30 p.m. they indiscriminately opened fire onto the House Floor and unfurled a Puerto Rican flag in a violent act of protest meant to draw attention to their demand for Puerto Rico’s immediate independence.

Five Congressmen were wounded in the shooting.

Members, House Pages, and police officers quickly helped detain three of the assailants outside the gallery, while the fourth escaped the Capitol and was apprehended later that afternoon.

https://history.house.gov/Oral-History/Events/1954-Shooting/

I believe this did, too.

Bomb explodes in U.S. Capitol, Nov. 7, 1983

After a five-year investigation, in May 1988 FBI agents arrested seven members of the “Resistance Conspiracy”: Marilyn Jean Buck, Linda Sue Evans, Susan Rosenberg, Timothy Blunk, Alan Berkman, Laura Whitehorn and Elizabeth Ann Duke. They were charged with executing the Capitol bombing as well as triggering similar blasts at Fort McNair and the Washington Navy Yard.

On Dec. 7, 1990, U.S. District Court Judge Harold H. Greene sentenced Whitehorn and Evans to lengthy prison terms for conspiracy and malicious destruction of government property. Greene dropped charges against three co-defendants because they were already serving extended prison sentences for related terrorist crimes.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/07/bomb-explodes-in-us-capitol-nov-7-1983-244578

 

[Legion]

Even throughout all of history, the vast majority of hate and violence has come from the Left. The Demonkkkrat Party has always been the Party of racism, hatred, and division. That has not changed since 1828.

Didn't DEMOCRATS stage an armed insurrection because they didn't like the outcome of the 1860 presidential election?

Remind me, how many times did their armed insurrectionists assault the US capital, and how many Americans did they kill in the attempts?

 

[jbander]

1) I will respond to your posts ANYTIME I feel like it. So you can forget that order.

2) you have offered ZERO link(s) to back up your ridiculous claims.

3) you do not even know 1% of all conservatives.
To make blanket assumptions about people whom you do not even know is beyond stupidity.
Imo, it is borderline emotional disturbance.

It is way simpler then that , first if you keep on with the bullshit , I have complete control over Me having to look at your shit.Simple , If you support the attempted destruction of our democracy on Jan 6 or if you support the instigator of this action , You are this countries enemy. Since the mass majority of the right supports both Jan6 and Scum bag ,anyone associating with this treason is this countries enemy. I don't need to know anyone on the right to claim what I'm claiming. If this includes you , you are the enemy and you will get what you deserve ultimately just like the Nazi supporters got after the war. If I had my way you would all be forced to have a tattooed T on your forehead for Traitor , so we can watch you traitors for the rest of your lives , to make sure you don't try to destroy this great Democracy/R in the future again.

 

[jbander]

Even throughout all of history, the vast majority of hate and violence has come from the Left. The Demonkkkrat Party has always been the Party of racism, hatred, and division. That has not changed since 1828.

In 2018 there was 50 hate crime murders in this country , all 50 done by the right. All of the attempted overthrow of our democracy on jan 6 was hate party members. According to the New America Foundation, since 9/11 some 114 people have been killed by far-right extremists, as compared to 107 by jihadists, and one (1) by a leftist. The Center for Strategic and International Studies has numbers going back to 1994, and finds 335 deaths from right-wing extremists against 22 from left-wing ones. And while 9/11 was the deadliest terrorist attack in American history, before that the record was held by the far right. Timothy McVeigh, the main perpetrator of the Oklahoma City bombing, was an anti-government extremist with ties to the militia movement who used to drive around to gun shows selling copies of The Turner Diaries (an explicitly genocidal white supremacist tract).https://theweek.com/articles/941014/political-violence-coming-from-direction-country-far-right. Nazi's, white supremacist, KKK, Those are the organized groups that exist to kill destroy and Mame. That is their direct philosophy. THERE IS NO COMPARISON < AS FOR VIOLENCE THE RIGHT HATES AND THE LEFT PROTEST INJUSTICES . Every Right wing group is based on bigotry hate a cruelty and are organized to produce that , The left are organized to fight injustices. BIG BIG DIFFERENCE>

 

[AProudLefty]

This is the typical lunacy of the Left. It goes like this in this case:

The Jan 6 riot was an insurrection. (The fallacy here is you have no proof other than your deciding it was)
If you question that, in any way, or simply don't accept that as your position on this--to include not particularly caring about the issue, you are an enemy of the state.

This is just a logical fallacy (In this case an argument from fallacy or a fallacy fallacy.--that is, you start with a fallacious premise and draw conclusions from that) in order to facilitate shutting down all non-conforming positions.

Thus, if you say Jan 6 was just a riot, the Leftist would say You are attacking democracy--whatever that means--and are therefore an enemy of the state because you don't accept that it was an "insurrection." There's no debating this with the Left, and the Left has ZERO probability of changing anyone's mind on it. So, instead they seek to shut down all discussion that doesn't conform to their delusion by using though terminating cliches (You are attacking democracy!), just as they always do.

So what was it? A peaceful tourism?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

So what was it? A peaceful tourism?

It was a riot. A roughly three-hour riot.

 

[AProudLefty]

It was a riot. A roughly three-hour riot.

What was the purpose of this "riot"?

 

[gfm7175]

In 2018 there was 50 hate crime murders in this country , all 50 done by the right. All of the attempted overthrow of our democracy on jan 6 was hate party members. According to the New America Foundation, since 9/11 some 114 people have been killed by far-right extremists, as compared to 107 by jihadists, and one (1) by a leftist. The Center for Strategic and International Studies has numbers going back to 1994, and finds 335 deaths from right-wing extremists against 22 from left-wing ones. And while 9/11 was the deadliest terrorist attack in American history, before that the record was held by the far right. Timothy McVeigh, the main perpetrator of the Oklahoma City bombing, was an anti-government extremist with ties to the militia movement who used to drive around to gun shows selling copies of The Turner Diaries (an explicitly genocidal white supremacist tract).https://theweek.com/articles/941014/political-violence-coming-from-direction-country-far-right. Nazi's, white supremacist, KKK, Those are the organized groups that exist to kill destroy and Mame. That is their direct philosophy. THERE IS NO COMPARISON < AS FOR VIOLENCE THE RIGHT HATES AND THE LEFT PROTEST INJUSTICES . Every Right wing group is based on bigotry hate a cruelty and are organized to produce that , The left are organized to fight injustices. BIG BIG DIFFERENCE>

Lies. Why must you lie?

 

[Into the Night]

If you support the Jan 6 attack

Attacks. I don't.

on our democracy

The United States was never a democracy.

with extreme violence

You mean like Antifa and BLM? No, that didn't happen, except by Antifa and BLM.

and the willingness to kill the police

No police were killed.

protecting our capital to do it,

The police were not protecting any capital. The alphabet is just fine, thanks, and doesn't need protecting by the police.

or if you support the instigator of this ,Trump,

Trump did not and does not instigate or condone entering the Capitol building and vandalizing stuff in it.

which the right does in both cases.

Hallucination.

Then you are a anti American and treasonous slob.

Nah. Taking selfies in famous places like the Capitol building is very American.

You are democracy biggest threat and enemy.

The United States was never a democracy.

It is not a difference of opinion,

Correct. The United States was never a democracy.

nor are you just the noble opposition.

Taking selfies in the Capitol building is noble???

When you attacked the capital

No one has attacked the alphabet.

or supported the attack on the capital

No one supports attacking the alphabet (except possibly Democrats).

or supported the instigator of this treason

There was no treason on Jan 6th. If you want to talk about treason, look to Joe Biden, who GAVE WEAPONS TO THE ENEMY IN TIME OF WAR.

you are a traitor.

You are talking about Joe Biden. You are also talking about Democrats, which conducted a silent coup and overthrew the federal government, discarded the Constitution of the United States, and installing Joe Biden as Chief Puppet. The 'federal' government is an oligarchy now. I call it the SODC.

You are the enemy of every patriot in this country.

You are describing Democrats.

Inversion fallacies. Hallucinations. TDS. Redefinition fallacies (trespass<->treason).

 

[Into the Night]

Agree with everything you said.

Of course you do. The chant comes from CNN.

 

[Into the Night]

[1] The USA was never a democracy (it was a republic).

[2] The USA already died on November 3rd, 2020 (and was buried on January 20th, 2021). All that exists today are 48 individual States of America (and three socialist oligarchies ---> California, New York, and DC) Oregon is closing in on joining the other three in becoming a socialist oligarchy as well.

Concerning Oregon: That it is. The Wet Side is basically oligarchy rule now. The Dry Side is rejecting that government. They've even started pumping their own gas. The Wet Side still hasn't figured out how.

 

[gfm7175]

Concerning Oregon: That it is. The Wet Side is basically oligarchy rule now. The Dry Side is rejecting that government. They've even started pumping their own gas. The Wet Side still hasn't figured out how.

Oh wow... The Dry Side is getting quite serious now...

 

[Hawkeye10]

Even throughout all of history, the vast majority of hate and violence has come from the Left. The Demonkkkrat Party has always been the Party of racism, hatred, and division. That has not changed since 1828.

I dont know about that as I have never launched an investigation into the matter, but I know that here and now it is the left that is most responsible for hate violence and abuse. THis is a real kick in the head, because I am a Progressive-Heterodox

 

[Into the Night]

This is the typical lunacy of the Left. It goes like this in this case:

The Jan 6 riot was an insurrection. (The fallacy here is you have no proof other than your deciding it was)
If you question that, in any way, or simply don't accept that as your position on this--to include not particularly caring about the issue, you are an enemy of the state.

This is just a logical fallacy (In this case an argument from fallacy or a fallacy fallacy.--that is, you start with a fallacious premise and draw conclusions from that) in order to facilitate shutting down all non-conforming positions.

This is not what a fallacy fallacy is. A fallacy fallacy is a false claim of fallacy (in other words, calling a legitimate argument a fallacy). It is most often used as a technique to discard an argument improperly. The fallacy you are looking for here is called an extension fallacy, sometimes called a definitive fallacy or definite fallacy. This fallacy occurs when someone uses a fallacy to define a conclusion, then assumes that conclusion as a proof and used later as a predicate. The initial fallacy of defining 'insurrection' via a redefinition fallacy is being used as a proof (via a circular argument fallacy), and then used as the predicate to following arguments (the definitive fallacy). Yes, it is often used to try to shut down any discussion of the original fallacy or any later fallacies formed from it. There is no valid argument in the chain.

In logic: (?A->A)->B This equation is invalid since ?A->A is used as a proof to try to prove B, otherwise known as a chain anchor violation (the chain has no origin). The chain may be anchored by a leading 'if' forming: ?(?A->A)->B. This form make the equation a legal one.

This form is the type of argument that simply extends an argument of faith as an extension of that argument based on the same faith. Every religion can legitimately use this form. It takes the proof of B away and extends the Argument of Faith to B. In other words, it is also a circular argument which uses another circular argument as the predicate, for you can simplify the equation to ?B->B by the reduction of form. (?A->A) simply can be represented by B. This is again, of course, just the circular argument, or the Argument of Faith.

Thus, if you say Jan 6 was just a riot, the Leftist would say You are attacking democracy--whatever that means--

The word 'democracy' has a definite meaning. It is government by popular vote. There is no constitution, no representatives, nothing. This is an unstable for of government that usually dissolves into an dictatorship or oligarchy (dictatorship by committee). Sooner or later (usually sooner!), one faction or another will gain control and there is no removing it. Since there is no constitution, nothing stops conversion to oligarchy. Oftentimes that oligarchy will fall further into a dictatorship under a single king or emperor.

Democracies are self destructive. Athens dissolved into an oligarchy. The most recent attempt was CHAZ, in Seattle, which dissolved into an oligarchy. The winning faction became quite brutal in putting down opposition. This is what finally caused the Seattle police to step in and close it down. The six block area was filled with enough trash and filth to fill two garbage trucks, and it had to be disposed of as hazardous waste due to the biological waste (shit on sidewalks and in the park) and drug needles everywhere.

So much for the latest experiment in democracy.

The United States was organized as government by constitution. This is called a republic.

There are nations that call themselves democracies, but ain't.
There are nations that call themselves republics, but ain't.

These two terms come from Greek and Latin.

and are therefore an enemy of the state because you don't accept that it was an "insurrection." There's no debating this with the Left, and the Left has ZERO probability of changing anyone's mind on it. So, instead they seek to shut down all discussion that doesn't conform to their delusion by using though terminating cliches (You are attacking democracy!), just as they always do.

This fallacy is a correct call. That is exactly what it is.

You called the fallacies on his argument, but one of them was an incorrect call. It's simply a different type of fallacy. Your basic premise for your call out of fallacies is sound.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Don't care if Schiff was doctoring evidence.

of course you don't.....

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Referring to logical fallacies does not make you look smart.

making them makes you look stupid, stupid.......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

IT would be nice if it all came out right before the 22 election. These people are traitors and they know it. They know if the truth comes out they will be painted as what they are, traitors to this country and There will be a hundred or more people that helped with the attempt to bring down our democracy to force in a piece of shit for a dictator.

your failure to find any evidence will certainly come out during the 22 election.......