The right supports the destruction of our democracy and a willingness to force in a d

[jbander]

History is not "bullshit".


No, they weren't. The Republican Party formed in 1854 in opposition to the slavery that the Democrat Party supported.


Lincoln was a Republican.


Name calling doesn't change the truth.


Inversion Fallacy. Attempt to re-write history.


Continued inversions and attempted revisions of history.

You idiot can't you read , Republicans were democrats at that time. There issues were Democrat aligned, It was a a shift in policy totally. There is no way for you to argue that Lincoln wasn't a classical Liberal. Because that is just a fact.If you even found that out to be a fact you would still deny it . Because it makes a ass out of your Idea of the differences between Dems and the hate party."Abraham Lincoln was the first Republican President. Lincoln, a former Whig (and then “moderate” “anti-slavery” Republican), favored social justice and federal power over states’ rights regarding slavery.[1][2][3]

Lincoln protested the Mexican American War and opposed Free-Trade, and we can thank Lincoln for free public colleges, the income tax, and using federal power to defeat the socially conservative south and ensure the Union (… just like a modern Republican?)"Lincoln was not unlike a modern socially liberal Democrat or more moderate Republican. Essentially everything Lincoln did put him in this camp, he was left on social issues, but moderate right on federal power. Figures like that tend to be Democrats today, but Lincoln wouldn’t be fully out of place in the more moderate wings of the modern Republican Party (or at very least he could be compared to an Eisenhower-like Republican). You are a idiot.

 

[jbander]

History is not "bullshit".


No, they weren't. The Republican Party formed in 1854 in opposition to the slavery that the Democrat Party supported.


Lincoln was a Republican.


Name calling doesn't change the truth.


Inversion Fallacy. Attempt to re-write history.


Continued inversions and attempted revisions of history.

You said Lincoln was a Republican, never said he wasn't, what I said and will repeat because you are clueless in lala land. Lincolns republican party has nothing to do with the Republican hate party that exist now. In fact by his speeches, His votes while in state offices and his policy as president. He Was total democrat. If Lincoln was alive today he would spit on your right wing hate group. He would be a Democrat. YOU NEED A FUCKING HISTORY LESSON SMALL TIME>

 

[jbander]

Love this one , as stupid as they can get and they will never let the truth in any part of their world because their world is made up of lies , 100% lies. That And the commie bullshit lead the way on the rights lies and distortions and their show of their willingness to show how stupid and uneducated they are. . They are a joke . These poor pups believe what they are told to believe.

 

[Nordberg]

the Repub party in 1854 is not this Repub party. this one is the party that does what the wealthy and corporations want. They are the party of voter suppression, particularly minorities. They are the party of cheating in elections.

 

[jbander]

You are so wrong AGAIN. Read up on Dixiecrats. read up on LBJs passing a voter rights act and saying" we have lost the southern vote for a generation." Read anything. You know nothing.
When Lincoln won, it was the first Repubs. They did not know who they were going to be, but we know what they became. They are the party of bigots haters and the people who fight against equal rights. That includes for minorities and women. they were joined by the Southern Dems who jumped to the bigot party, where they have stayed.

Wonder why Trump hating Republicans named their anti Trump group the Lincoln Project. Not only would Lincoln pick the democratic party as his party today but the Hate group the right calls a party now would never let Lincoln in their party today. They would reject everything he stands for. He was a Whig originally , which wanted to take power away from the states and have the federal government control it. HE was the ultimate social liberal. Whigs aligned themselves with Democrats. The Republican party of Lincoln was Whig based Whig aligned and it's origin was Whigs.

 

[jbander]

the Repub party in 1854 is not this Repub party. this one is the party that does what the wealthy and corporations want. They are the party of voter suppression, particularly minorities. They are the party of cheating in elections.

always love the weakest brains on the right with their commie attack and the Lincoln was a republican crap. They have no clue what they are talking about , They are a joke.

 

[Into the Night]

You are so wrong AGAIN.

Inversion fallacy.

Read up on Dixiecrats. read up on LBJs passing a voter rights act and saying" we have lost the southern vote for a generation." Read anything. You know nothing.

Another Democrat lying is not a proof.

When Lincoln won, it was the first Repubs.

Nope. Lincoln founded the Republican party BEFORE the war.

They did not know who they were going to be,

They knew exactly who they were going to be and what they stood for.

but we know what they became.

Apparently YOU don't. You don't get to speak for everybody. Omniscience fallacy.

They are the party of bigots haters and the people who fight against equal rights.

You are describing Democrats.

That includes for minorities and women.

You are describing Democrats.

they were joined by the Southern Dems who jumped to the bigot party, where they have stayed.

The Big Switch never occurred.

Inversion fallacies. Using fiction as history. False authority fallacy. Bigotry. No argument presented.

 

[Into the Night]

You idiot can't you read , Republicans were democrats at that time.

Republicans were never Democrats.

There issues were Democrat aligned,

No they weren't. They were polar opposites.

It was a a shift in policy totally.

There was no magick 'shift'.

There is no way for you to argue that Lincoln wasn't a classical Liberal.

Never was.

Because that is just a fact.

Attempted proof by buzzword. Learn English. Learn what 'fact' means. It does NOT mean 'proof' or 'Universal Truth'.

If you even found that out to be a fact you would still deny it.

Thus, it's not a fact.

Because it makes a ass out of your Idea of the differences between Dems and the hate party.

There are no differences. The Democrats ARE the hate party.

"Abraham Lincoln was the first Republican President.

Correct.

Lincoln, a former Whig (and then “moderate” “anti-slavery” Republican), favored social justice and federal power over states’ rights regarding slavery.[1][2][3]

Slavery isn't a right. It's theft. It's brutal. It's cruel. Make no mistake about that!

Lincoln protested the Mexican American War

Lincoln didn't serve during the Mexican-American war.

and opposed Free-Trade,

You mean the embargoes he placed on the Confederacy because the material was created through slave labor?

and we can thank Lincoln for free public colleges,

Nope. The first public college (actually a university) was commissioned by the Georgia State legislature in 1785. Lincoln hadn't even been born yet!
There is no such thing as a free public college. All colleges and universities cost money to build and maintain.

the income tax,

Nope. The 16th amendment was passed by Congress in 1909 and put to the States for ratification. Lincoln was already dead. The amendment was ratified in 1913, with 37 of the 48 States approving.

and using federal power to defeat the socially conservative south

Slavery isn't conservative. It's a form of socialism. It's theft.

and ensure the Union (… just like a modern Republican?)

The Confederacy was a separate nation at the time.

"Lincoln was not unlike a modern socially liberal Democrat or more moderate Republican.

Fiction.

Essentially everything Lincoln did put him in this camp,

Fiction.

he was left on social issues,

Buzzword fallacy.

but moderate right on federal power.

Buzzword fallacy.

Figures like that tend to be Democrats today,

Republicans were never Democrats.

but Lincoln wouldn’t be fully out of place in the more moderate wings of the modern Republican Party (or at very least he could be compared to an Eisenhower-like Republican).

Buzzword fallacies.

You are a idiot.

Insult fallacy.

Denial of history. Fiction for history. Inversion fallacies. No argument presented.

 

[Into the Night]

Love this one , as stupid as they can get and they will never let the truth in any part of their world because their world is made up of lies , 100% lies. That And the commie bullshit lead the way on the rights lies and distortions and their show of their willingness to show how stupid and uneducated they are. . They are a joke . These poor pups believe what they are told to believe.

Insult fallacies. Bigotry. Bulverism. Trolling. No argument presented.

 

[Lightbringer]

the Repub party in 1854 is not this Repub party. this one is the party that does what the wealthy and corporations want. They are the party of voter suppression, particularly minorities. They are the party of cheating in elections.

Really? Who came up with the Absentee Voter Counting Boards?

And yes, I know the GOP is down with it but who came up with the idea?

 

[Into the Night]

the Repub party in 1854 is not this Repub party. this one is the party that does what the wealthy and corporations want. They are the party of voter suppression, particularly minorities. They are the party of cheating in elections.

Inversion fallacies. You are describing Democrats. No argument presented. You cannot make the evidence disappear by inversion, dude.

 

[Into the Night]

Wonder why Trump hating Republicans named their anti Trump group the Lincoln Project. Not only would Lincoln pick the democratic party as his party today but the Hate group the right calls a party now would never let Lincoln in their party today. They would reject everything he stands for. He was a Whig originally , which wanted to take power away from the states and have the federal government control it. HE was the ultimate social liberal. Whigs aligned themselves with Democrats. The Republican party of Lincoln was Whig based Whig aligned and it's origin was Whigs.

The Lincoln project was founded by RINOs (effectively Democrats) and Democrats and is funded and supported by Democrats.

 

[Into the Night]

always love the weakest brains on the right with their commie attack and the Lincoln was a republican crap. They have no clue what they are talking about , They are a joke.

Lincoln was the founding leader of the Republican party. Communism is a form of socialism...Democrats.

 

[jbander]

MY last 8 comments I received are blank, they are on my ignore list. They are the ones whining to the management here trying to get you in trouble , 90% of that goes away when you put them on ignore.

 

[gfm7175]

MY last 8 comments I received are blank, they are on my ignore list. They are the ones whining to the management here trying to get you in trouble , 90% of that goes away when you put them on ignore.

 

[BidenPresident]

MY last 8 comments I received are blank, they are on my ignore list. They are the ones whining to the management here trying to get you in trouble , 90% of that goes away when you put them on ignore.

Intothenight is a troll. just a nuisance

 

[jbander]

iF YOU DON'T CONTRIBUTE YOU ARE GONE.

 

[Into the Night]

Intothenight is a troll. just a nuisance

Inversion fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

iF YOU DON'T CONTRIBUTE YOU ARE GONE.

You're gone all right!

 

[gemini104104]

If you support the Jan 6 attack on our democracy with extreme violence and the willingness to kill the police protecting our capital to do it, or if you support the instigator of this ,Trump, which the right does in both cases . Then you are a anti American and treasonous slob. You are democracy biggest threat and enemy. It is not a difference of opinion , nor are you just the noble opposition. When you attacked the capital or supported the attack on the capital or supported the instigator of this treason you are a traitor. You are the enemy of every patriot in this country.

Actually, the Reich or wrong way right at casting its soul to the devil and at being incapable of supporting or co-existing in a civilized society as a sewer type cesspool of ghastly tidings, is something that should be eliminated for the sake of current and future generations to come, and in order to co-exist in a civilized environment.