The Russia Hoax could have been to Trump's advantage but IMO he completely effed it up. Of course hindsight is 20/20 so it's not all his fault.
This thread is open to most on the left even though they believe the Russia Hoax was legit. To me it's black and white. Nothing came of it other than process crimes except for Manafort.
So I'll start the discussion.
Trump should never have fired Comey to let him investigate. Not only was he a complete bumbling incompetent but as he continued his "investigation" would have committed further crimes and he would have simply dug a deeper legal hole for himself. Sessions then could have prosecuted Comey
while he was still the FBI director. Perhaps then we could have gotten to the bottom of the illegal spying on trump by those in the Obama admin.
This thread probably should be in the Conservatives Only forum except that I am a
liberal.
For the dems and leftists this thread is open to, just saying there was no Russia hoax really doesn't add anything to this (hopeful) discussion (
but I know you will).
there was no hoax, so your thread is goofy as hell. here read this-
U.S. intelligence agencies
A report issued by high-ranking American intelligence officials in January of 2017 concluded that Russian operatives reporting to Putin interfered in the 2016 presidential election in favor of Trump. It was drafted and compiled by the CIA, the FBI and the National Security Agency.
He was also disagreeing with U.S. intelligence agencies; two congressional committees that investigated the issue; his own Defense secretary, director of national intelligence and national security adviser; and private cybersecurity experts.
At a joint press conference Monday in Helsinki, Trump declined to criticize Putin for meddling in the election, called his denial “powerful” and criticized the special counsel’s investigation as a “total witch hunt.”
The document stated that Putin “ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the U.S. presidential election” aiming to “denigrate Secretary Clinton” and showing a “clear preference for President-elect Trump.”
The Senate intelligence committee
On July 3, 2018, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence issued a bipartisan report which asserted that the intelligence community’s findings on Russian meddling were fairly and professionally done and that more evidence had since come forward.
“As the inquiry has progressed since January 2017, the Committee has seen additional examples of Russia’s attempts to sow discord, undermine democratic institutions, and interfere in U.S. elections and those of our allies,” the report noted.
The House intelligence committee
On April 27, 2018, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence released a report written by the committee’s Republicans which found no evidence that the Trump campaign worked with Russia to interfere with the election.
But that report did find that Russia had tried to meddle.
“In 2015, Russia began engaging in a covert influence campaign aimed at the U.S. presidential election,” it said. “The Russian government, at the direction of President Vladimir Putin, sought to sow discord in American society and undermine our faith in the democratic process.”
The Justice Department
In May of 2017, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein appointed Special Counsel Robert Mueller to investigate possible collusion between Trump’s campaign team and Russian officials.
In February, the Justice Department indicted 13 Russian operatives and three companies on charges related to waging “information warfare against the United States of America” and interfering with the election to help the Trump campaign.
On Friday, the department announced further charges against 12 Russian nationals on counts of hacking the Democratic National Committee, Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign and state election systems. Several of those indicted worked for the G.R.U, Russia’s military intelligence agency.
https://time.com/5340060/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-summit-russia-meddling/
