The Sacrifice

Hummm....

Darla said:
Gee thanks, but I don't really see what a repressed homosexual with a mancrush on Damo and a need for viagra is going to do for me.
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Oh shit...must be that I missed my alzheimers meds..I was not too clear on this....toppy is mo betta for your needs...I concede...***sigh***Being that toppy is the one who is repressed and all!
 
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No. It's actually stupid. According to nihilism a SOURCE of meaning should carry no inherent value either.

You are really really slow...

Does it matter if it has no innate value, when value is dictated by the person involved?

No, because the value is still there...

This isn't rocket science, and is far more reasonable that meaning is derived from humans than the notion that meaning and value is derived from some mythical bloke in the sky....
 
Why do you think being an internationalist fascist is cool?

Do you know what an oxymoron is?

I'll give you a clue, internationalist fascism is one.

Fascism is a nationalist political ideology.
 
AnyOldIron II said:
No. It's actually stupid. According to nihilism a SOURCE of meaning should carry no inherent value either.

You are really really slow...

Does it matter if it has no innate value, when value is dictated by the person involved?

No, because the value is still there...

This isn't rocket science, and is far more reasonable that meaning is derived from humans than the notion that meaning and value is derived from some mythical bloke in the sky....
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He's not saying their lives have value, he's saying their meaning giving faculty is inherently valuable. But he doesn't respect the values of ALL individuals, only those elitist individuals who propose nihilism. He believes atomists should be destroyed, for instance.

But you don't respect ALL values of ALL individual. You only respect nihilism.
 
AnyOldIron II said:
Why do you think being an internationalist fascist is cool?

Do you know what an oxymoron is?

I'll give you a clue, internationalist fascism is one.

Fascism is a nationalist political ideology.
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But a new model has emerged which is an international hegemony of multinational corporations, national governments and international governmental structures colluding to create total power for themselves. I call it internationalist fascism. It's also called the new world order. descriptively, it's like fascism, but on an international level. I'm open to new terms. What do you want to call it?
 
But a new model has emerged which is an international hegemony of multinational corporations, national governments and international governmental structures colluding to create total power for themselves. I call it internationalist fascism. It's also called the new world order. descriptively, it's like fascism, but on an international level. I'm open to new terms. What do you want to call it?

Not fascism...

You are using the term 'fascist' to give your argument pathos, because the connotations of the word.

I don't believe that there is a hegemony between business and government, I think business has superceded government.

We now live in an era of Corporatism...
 
AnyOldIron II said:
But a new model has emerged which is an international hegemony of multinational corporations, national governments and international governmental structures colluding to create total power for themselves. I call it internationalist fascism. It's also called the new world order. descriptively, it's like fascism, but on an international level. I'm open to new terms. What do you want to call it?

Not fascism...

You are using the term 'fascist' to give your argument pathos, because the connotations of the word.

I don't believe that there is a hegemony between business and government, I think business has superceded government.

We now live in an era of Corporatism...
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Ever read "Roller Ball Murder"? I mean, read the actual story, not watch the crappy movies that miss the point of the story...

Anyway, I think you may like it.
 
AnyOldIron II said:
But a new model has emerged which is an international hegemony of multinational corporations, national governments and international governmental structures colluding to create total power for themselves. I call it internationalist fascism. It's also called the new world order. descriptively, it's like fascism, but on an international level. I'm open to new terms. What do you want to call it?

Not fascism...

You are using the term 'fascist' to give your argument pathos, because the connotations of the word.

I don't believe that there is a hegemony between business and government, I think business has superceded government.

We now live in an era of Corporatism...
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It's fascism but on an international level. Internationalist fascism is the best term we have now to accurately describe it. oligarchical collectivism is another good term for it.

You're a fucking idiot if you don't think there's hegemony between business and government. Sorry. You just are.
 
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uscitizen said:
ahh AHZ realized he had screwed up and agreed with Ornot :)
Pretty funny.
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Ornot only sees half the picture, he doesn't believe the government and corporations are one hand washing the other. He actually sells the lie of the infallibility of government. Very dangerous indeed, his form of theism.
 
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uscitizen said:
Ornot thinks that govt is infallable ? I never got that impression from any of his posts.
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He seems to believe government oversight is the key to everything. That's too simplistic and also implies an assumption that government is not swayed by the same corruptions that plague business. The truth is it's all the same fuckers.
 
I think Ornot realizes that.
You are being to binary in your thought processes.

All answers are not just this or that, but a blend of many shades of this or that.
 
uscitizen said:
I think Ornot realizes that.
You are being to binary in your thought processes.

All answers are not just this or that, but a blend of many shades of this or that.
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His comments do not reflect a comprehension of said matter. The rest of your post sounded like the recipe for Mrs. Dash.
 
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His comments do not reflect a comprehension of said matter. The rest of your post sounded like the recipe for Mrs. Dash.
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In a complex world many soloutions sound like a gourmet recipe.
And most soloutions are not perfect, but we are dealing with the failings of humans so perfection is extremely elusive.
 
uscitizen said:
In a complex world many soloutions sound like a gourmet recipe.
And most soloutions are not perfect, but we are dealing with the failings of humans so perfection is extremely elusive.
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Which is a why a one size fits all new world order monoculture is a bad idea. Don't you see the centralization and authoritarianism the internationalist fascists prefer is actually anathema to the complex reality you say you understand?
 
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