The Safety and Efficacy of Vaccines

domer76 said:
A vaccine, you fucking idiot, is a substance that causes an immune response. No vaccine is 100% effective, Festus, and informed people know that. Some are merely better than others because of the nature of the virus, moron. The flu and COVID vaccines have less efficacy that the polio vaccine because the former two have constantly changing variants.

You sad fucking covid conspiracists have the science background of 6th graders. And that’s an insult to that age group.
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and constant inflammation, part of the immune system, trigger most common morbit diseases these days.

the spike protein was engineer to lodge in the body and cause constant inflammation.

and yes It was made in a chinese lab under fauci's supervision.

RFKj will drink YOUR milkshake, Nazi bitch.
 
Freddy Figbottom said:
and constant inflammation, part of the immune system, trigger most common morbit diseases these days.

the spike protein was engineer to lodge in the body and cause constant inflammation.

and yes It was made in a chinese lab under fauci's supervision.

RFKj will drink YOUR milkshake, Nazi bitch.
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The vaccine saved multiple millions of lives.

The Fauci claim is a lie.

Fucking idiot. How do you even make it through the day with your level of stupidity?
 
domer76 said:
The vaccine saved multiple millions of lives.

The Fauci claim is a lie.

Fucking idiot. How do you even make it through the day with your level of stupidity?
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Its killed more than it helped.

The fauci claim is the truth.

Ramd paul tore up fauci's ass under oath.

Why did biden give fauci a preemptive pardon?

Wake up, Nazi fool.
 
jimmymccready said:
Scott said:
I ask you for your source(s) and you ask me to look for it? You seem rather uninterested in providing evidence for your position.
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You posted a nonsense online source.
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A deflection and an insult, all in one sentence. For the audience, here's the breakdown of jimmy's strategy: first, a deflection- I had asked him for his source in a previous post. His response was for me to look for it myself. When I note that he seems rather uninterested in providing evidence for his position, he deflects by saying that -my- source is nonsense. The ultimate irony here is that he backs up his assertion that my source is nonsense with the very source that he doesn't name, even though I requested him to do so. Now, I've been reading some of his posts, and it -appears- that his source is Microsoft's Copilot AI. Microsoft, in turn, was founded by Bill Gates, who in turn is quite gung ho about the profit potential of vaccines:
childrenshealthdefense.org

Bill Gates: Vaccines Are ‘Phenomenal’ Profit Makers

“Bill Gates — What You Were Not Told,” reviews the personal and professional background of the Microsoft mogul, including a statement revealing his real motive for investing in vaccines — their 20 - 1 return on investment.
childrenshealthdefense.org childrenshealthdefense.org

Let's see what the article has to say on Bill Gates and vaccines:
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Indeed, over the years, Gates has ended up in a position where he monopolizes or wields disproportionate influence over not only the tech industry, but also global health and vaccines, agriculture and food policy (including biopiracy and fake food), weather modification and other climate technologies, surveillance, education and media.

Not surprisingly, he’s tied to online fact checker organizations that strangle free speech, and recently told “60 Minutes” that to combat mistrust in science, we need to find ways to “slow down the crazy stuff.” What’s “crazy” and what’s not, however, is rarely as clear-cut as the mainstream media would like you to believe.

And, like a true philanthrocapitalist, Gates’ generosity ends up benefiting himself most of all. As discussed in “Bill Gates — Most Dangerous Philanthropist in Modern History?” the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation donates billions to the very same companies and industries that the foundation owns stocks and bonds in.

As Gates himself reveals in the featured video, he figured out that vaccines are phenomenal profit makers, saying they’re the best investment he’s ever made, with more than a 20-to-1 return. The one thing that allows for this is the liability shield vaccine makers have been given by the government.
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Now, one can ofcourse say that Bill Gates has left Microsoft, and that's certainly true, but I hardly find it surprising that the former company that owned would say bad things about those who don't agree with Mr. Gates' point of view in regards to vaccines and biological viruses.
 
Scott is a liar, people.

Check #221 yesterday.

The vaccines are overwhelmingly safe and effective, the outcome vastly worth the very rare injury caused by them.

He is not engaged in free speech.

He is willfully, voluntarily, and knowingly trying to hurt citizens.
 
jimmymccready said:
Scott said:
I've seen no solid evidence that a polio virus even exists, let alone that polio "vaccines" had anything to do with it becoming rare. For evidence that the cause of polio may be other than the alleged polio virus, you can take a look at the following articles:
childrenshealthdefense.org

A Story About Polio, Pesticides and the Meaning of Science

We’re told the science on polio is settled — but that may not be the case. There are scientists who believe polio-like symptoms could be caused by toxic substances, including pesticides.
childrenshealthdefense.org childrenshealthdefense.org

viroliegy.com

The Infectious Myth Busted Part 5: Is Polio Contagious?

“In addition to the failure to prove contagiousness of human poliomyelitis, it has likewise been impossible to prove contagiousness of poliomyelitis in experimental animals.” – Ralph Scobey While investigating the horrors of polio, I looked into the lack of evidence for any purified and isolated...
viroliegy.com viroliegy.com
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Hack sources, and you know it.
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I'd ask you what draws you to this conclusion, but I suspect I'll just get another glib one liner.
 
jimmymccready said:
The Copilot AI responds to "are the covid vaccines generally safe."

Yes, COVID-19 vaccines are generally considered safe by global health authorities and supported by extensive research:

✅ Global Safety Consensus​

  • World Health Organization (WHO) confirms that COVID-19 vaccines underwent rigorous testing in large Phase III trials before approval. They continue to be monitored for safety through real-world data and expert review panels.
  • Health Canada and other national agencies only approve vaccines that meet strict standards for safety, effectiveness, and quality.

🧪 Largest Safety Study to Date​

  • A 2024 international study involving nearly 100 million vaccinated individuals found that most health risks after vaccination were similar to background rates—meaning they occurred no more often than expected in the general population.
  • The study did identify rare but known risks such as:
    • Myocarditis and pericarditis (inflammation of the heart)
    • Guillain-Barré syndrome (a rare nerve disorder)
    • Cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (a rare type of blood clot)These were statistically elevated but still very rare.

💉 Common Side Effects​

  • Most people experience mild and temporary symptoms, such as:
    • Soreness at the injection site
    • Fatigue, headache, mild fever
    • Muscle or joint aches

⚠️ Rare Reactions​

  • Serious allergic reactions are extremely rare and typically occur shortly after vaccination. Clinics monitor recipients for a short time post-injection to manage any immediate reactions.

🛡️ Benefits vs Risks​

  • The vaccines have been shown to reduce severe illness, hospitalization, death, and long COVID symptoms, which far outweigh the small risks of adverse effects.
sciencealert.com /www.sciencealert.com/largest-covid-vaccine-study-ever-reveals-the-actual-health-risks-you-face

www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/vaccines/safety-side-effects.html

www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/coronavirus-disease-%28covid-19%29-vaccines-safety
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Microsoft's Copilot is hardly a source I'd trust when it comes to talking about vaccines. For anyone who'd like to know why, I made a long explanation on the point in post #250.
 
jimmymccready said:
No, the claim that COVID-19 vaccines killed many multiples of those they saved is not supported by credible evidence
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I've seen no solid evidence that covid vaccines have saved anyone. Here's a line I think is good as to this notion that covid 19 vaccines have saved millions of lives:
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Another aspect that should be considered proven is that the notion that the C19 vaccine “saved lives”, or “millions of lives”, is a ridiculous notion. The untenable nature of that theoretical proposition (advanced in The Lancet) was demonstrated by me and co-author Joseph Hickey here: https://correlation-canada.org/nobel-vaccine-and-all-cause-mortality/. Likewise, the recent estimate of “lives saved” by Ioannidis and co-authors is erroneous and silly.
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Source:
denisrancourt.substack.com

Did the C19 vaccine kill 17 million? Yes, but how? Not what you think!

Clinical data proves lethality but not of this magnitude
denisrancourt.substack.com denisrancourt.substack.com
 
Freddy Figbottom said:
Scott said:
Into the Night said:
Scott said:
It seems clear that you never clicked on the first link from my last response. Here's the start of what said linked article says:

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Many vaccines contain mercury, aluminum and other toxins — should parents be asking questions about autism before allowing their children to receive them? And should senior citizens be concerned about the potential to contribute to Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, ALS, and dementia? In a previous Health Tip I shared what Dr. Russell Blaylock (a board certified neurosurgeon) had to say about the mercury contained in many of these vaccines. According to Dr. Blaylock, if a senior citizen receives an annual flu shot for five consecutive years, they increase their potential for Alzheimer’s by 1,000 percent.

“Aluminum is toxic . . . . compelling research has demonstrated that aluminum is an accumulative neurotoxin, even in small concentrations. It has a tendency to concentrate in the hippocampus, an area of the brain vital to crucial functions including learning, memory, and behavior. “Recent articles on aluminum have shown that aluminum in vaccines is producing severe problems in the brains of developing children. . . . Of the 36 vaccines children get, 18 of them contain aluminum. One article showed that children get doses 46 times higher than those considered safe by government agencies.”

Mainstream medicine promotes vaccines to protect children from being crippled or dying from childhood diseases, says Dr. Blaylock. “But that’s very rare.” He says. "And you’re talking about giving perfectly healthy children a vaccine that will cause their brains to develop abnormally, and they will essentially be neurologically ruined for the rest of their lives.” “How can you justify destroying perfectly normal children when the diseases you are fighting are far less common than the complications from vaccine itself?” he asks.
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Plenty more interesting information from the source here:
Toxins In Vaccines — Is There Cause For Concern? | myhdiet.com
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Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism). Fear mongering.
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Where is my alleged circular argument? As to fear mongering, what in my post do you believe was exaggerated to cause fear?
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into the night is not america first or pro human.

he's and old style big pharma neocon who does a lot of pretending.
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I definitely have my disagreements with @Into the Night, but I think it wouldn't help anyone if I didn't point out that we actually agree on some things when it comes to both the covid vaccines and the alleged Cov 2 virus. Below are quotes from 2 posts he's made in this thread:
Into the Night: "Covid19 does not kill."

Source: Post #31

Seeing as how I don't believe the Cov 2 virus exists, I definitely agree with that statement. I said as much in post #41.

Into the Night:
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The covid19 'vaccine' isn't a vaccine. It's a treatment. mRNA treatments are not a vaccine. It is designed to program cells to manufacture covid19 viruses.

Yes...Ivermectine does seem to be effective against covid19 infection.
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Source: Post #32

I didn't agree with everything he said there, but I did agree with some of it and definitely felt it merited a response, which I did in post #42.

For whatever reason, Into the Night never responded to either of my responses to these posts of his, but due to these posts of his, I believe that he actually does see some of the truth in regards to Covid 19 vaccines and at least doesn't see the alleged Cov 2 virus as deadly.
 
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