The safety nuts are at it again

[WinterBorn]

I'm fine with them taking out their entire family since, like the MAGAt morons on this thread, stupidity is often genetic.

Murder is wrong, but I'm good with suicide, even if it's suicide by stupidity.

And the family in the minivan that they hit? Is the stupidity worth that?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

And the family in the minivan that they hit? Is the stupidity worth that?

Why would they hit another car for not wearing their seatbelt? What such idiots do is drive up insurance rates since they either increase their injuries or fatalities.

As we all should know, insurance companies are all about profit, not assistance. If they have to pay out more money, they will increase rates or, as in this case, push for stronger seatbelt and DUI laws. Not out of public concern or humanitarian reasons, but to protect their bottom line.

I don't want to sound cruel, but for the good of the human race, I'd rather pay the higher insurance rates.

 

[WinterBorn]

Why would they hit another car for not wearing their seatbelt? What such idiots do is drive up insurance rates since they either increase their injuries or fatalities.

As we all should know, insurance companies are all about profit, not assistance. If they have to pay out more money, they will increase rates or, as in this case, push for stronger seatbelt and DUI laws. Not out of public concern or humanitarian reasons, but to protect their bottom line.

I don't want to sound cruel, but for the good of the human race, I'd rather pay the higher insurance rates.

If you are not wearing a seatbelt, and have to make an emergency maneuver, you are using your grip on the steering wheel to hold you in your place. That is not being in control of your vehicle.

 

[Kurmugeon]

Wrong! As Mike Rowe (the Dirty Jobs guy) says, "Safety third." Safety is YOUR responsibility, not some government bureaucrat's in Dirty City. Putting seatbelts in cars is great and a good safety measure, forcing you to wear them isn't. If you are too stupid to recognize the value of seatbelts, then you get what you deserve. Nature has a way of killing of the stupid. Safety nuts try and keep the stupid alive and breeding. It's one of the ways you create an idiocrasy.

Much the same could be said of Vaccinations.

Especially experimental vaccinations, where some people have heavy metal dust inhalation & damaged lungs, or diabetes, or military experience exposure to other vaccinations which has their immune system on a hair-trigger.

Military or National Lab service is not for all people. The people who do such work have additional considerations, and more than enough intelligence to evaluate the potential risk, and benefits, of an experimental mRNA vaccine.

Government is not a GOD.

Especially a government which would give gender change hormones to pre-teens.

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[Dutch Uncle]

If you are not wearing a seatbelt, and have to make an emergency maneuver, you are using your grip on the steering wheel to hold you in your place. That is not being in control of your vehicle.

While true, how many emergency maneuvers have you made in your life that a seatbelt saved you from losing control? In mine, one when I was in my twenties, drunk and sideswiped a parked car and ricocheted towards the opposite row of parked cars. The seatbelt saved me from being thrown out of the driver's seat and I was able to avoid a second, more direct hit. That was over 40 years ago.

I've been in a few accidents since then, all sober BTW, and the seatbelt saved me from serious injury. None involved an idiot who wasn't wearing his/her seatbelt and it wouldn't have mattered if they weren't. The problem is driver competence. Only idiots don't wear their seatbelts and, had they not worn their seatbelt, they would have suffered greater injuries.

 

[WinterBorn]

While true, how many emergency maneuvers have you made in your life that a seatbelt saved you from losing control? In mine, one when I was in my twenties, drunk and sideswiped a parked car and ricocheted towards the opposite row of parked cars. The seatbelt saved me from being thrown out of the driver's seat and I was able to avoid a second, more direct hit. That was over 40 years ago.

I've been in a few accidents since then, all sober BTW, and the seatbelt saved me from serious injury. None involved an idiot who wasn't wearing his/her seatbelt.

Wasn't that one time enough?

 

[Cypress]

What do you mean? He seems very self-involved and, IMO, "self aware". His problem is a complete lack of social awareness and people skills. I doubt he's ever worked a day in his life. Due to his young age, relative to the average JPP demographic of socially awkward geezers, something is physically limiting him from working or venturing outside in real-life social situations.

Watermark is in that smallish demographic of 30-something Incels who are just too weird, obsessive, and bizarre to have relationships, girlfriends, wives, or full time jobs, and frequently have live with their mother and make some money doing Uber eats or selling stuff on the internet.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Much the same could be said of Vaccinations.

Especially experimental vaccinations, where some people have heavy metal dust inhalation & damaged lungs, or diabetes, or military experience exposure to other vaccinations which has their immune system on a hair-trigger.

Military or National Lab service is not for all people. The people who do such work have additional considerations, and more than enough intelligence to evaluate the potential risk, and benefits, of an experimental mRNA vaccine.

Government is not a GOD.

Especially a government which would give gender change hormones to pre-teens.

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I highly recommend that anyone who doesn't accept modern medical science to NOT see a doctor nor accept any form of injection. Not only to avoid the CIA/FBI/Mossad nanobots government puts in those injections, but due to the "experimental" nature of these injections.

You are safer getting all of your medical advice from your friends on Facebook, Twitter and Reddit.

Seriously, you and your like-minded friends should avoid all doctors, all injections and all medical advice from government sources.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Watermark is in that smallush demographic of 30-something Incels who are just too weird, obsessive, and bizarre to have relationships, girlfriends, wives, or full time jobs, and frequently have live with their mother and make some money doing Uber eats or selling stuff on the internet.

Agreed to all except him having a job or selling stuff on the Internet. For one, he doesn't have the time considering his frequency of posting with a handful of socks plus his scanning across the Internet to steal memes, reading X.com, and finding off-the-wall links to support his posts.

Secondly, as noted before, he lacks the social skills to interact with real people except his parental figures or caretakers. I doubt he knows how to drive. Not for a lack of brains, but for a lack of both mobility and the social skills to pass a driving exam.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Wasn't that one time enough?

Considering the damage to the collective IQ of the human race? Personally, yes. Overall, no when discussing the requirement to wear a seatbelt.

As I stated, smart people wear seatbelts. The warning system the MAGAts are whining about can be easily defeated, but obviously they are too fucking stupid to Google it.

Again, I'm against both governments and religion forcing stupid people to save themselves. Advise? Absolutely. Require? No. Forcing stupid people to wear seatbelts isn't the same as forcing people to not drive impaired since that is clearly a danger to others.

 

[Kurmugeon]

If there is one thing we have learned from Biden, Government on health issues, cannot be trusted.

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[Kurmugeon]

The Lefties still cannot accept the reality of why they lost in 2024.

They lied to U.S. over and over about the state of Biden's mental capacity.

The Democrat / Leftie Brand is dust.

The Trust is gone.

America has moved on.

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[Daylight63]

Coming soon, a new seatbelt safety requirement will have all seats in a vehicle wired to set off the ding-a-ling seatbelt warning when occupied.

Seat belt warnings will soon be required for rear seats: Here's what to know

Implementation of the rule is expected to prevent more than 50 vehicle-related deaths each year, NHTSA says.

www.usatoday.com

Mandatory Rear Seat Belt Alarms Coming To All US Cars In 2027 | Carscoops

A similar rule for rear passenger seat belt reminders has been into effect in the European Union since 2019

www.carscoops.com

U.S. to Mandate Rear Seat Belt Alarms in New Vehicles by 2027 - Motor Illustrated

New U.S. vehicles will require Rear seat belt alarms starting September 2027. NHTSA estimates the rule will save 50 lives annually and prevent 500 injuries. Front-seat alerts will also be enhanced, with rules taking effect in 2026. On Monday, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration...

motorillustrated.com

Now, this might seem like a good idea, but it's not. It will drive you insane if you use your vehicle to do anything other than haul passengers in those seats. Got the dog that likes to bounce from seat to seat sticking his head out the window? Be prepared for perpetual ding-a-linging from the seatbelt warning thing. Carry shopping, tools, supplies, or other non-passenger stuff in the seats regularly? Be prepared to have to seat belt them in.

This was tried back in the early 70's and within just a few years was tossed because it caused so many people problems doing stuff like I gave examples of. This will just add cost and major annoyance to car owners for no good return on anything. You can't fix stupid, and you probably shouldn't. We should let stupid kill itself off like nature intended.

Back in the early 80's I was in uni in a small midwestern town. I would drive back to my folks house also in another small midwestern towns. I used to drive like a mad man down those straight section line road in the midwest. Hellbent for leather. Without my seatbelt on.

Then my state enacted a law fining if you didn't have your seatbelt on. I was PISSED OFF! Really pissed. How unfair.

But it got me to wear my seatbelt.

It actually got me to change my behavior and probably saved my life at least once or twice.

So I approve of this sort of stuff.

 

[anonymoose]

Why the hell would you need that when all you have to do it fasten the rear seatbelts?

I use that when i make the few minutes drive from my house to the golf course when I’m in Hawaii. It’s not a public road and the speed limit is 10 mph.

 

[Nordberg]

If there is one thing we have learned from Biden, Government on health issues, cannot be trusted.

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That is not what I learned. Biden managed to get an epidemic under control by making vaccinations free and available. The cases of COVID-19 and deaths are more concentrated in Trumpian conspiracy areas. If you hate science and love Fox, don't take the shots.

 

[Althea]

These won't. They'll ding-a-ling forever if you let them. The other problem comes with things like having a pet dog in the car and it moves around. Getting off a seat and then back on will set the alarm off. Even in the 70's the systems were smart enough to ignore a buckled seatbelt when pressure was taken off the seat sensor and reapplied. You had to unbuckle and re-buckle the belt to turn the warning off.

My bet is the new variant will sense that the seats are unoccupied, and the seatbelts are fastened and when someone gets in and sits on the seat the warning will go off. That is, you need a specific sequence of events to make it not go off like weight on the seat followed by the seat belt being buckled.

I seriously doubt that any automaker is going to go through the expense of those high tech parameters. If the dummy clip works, why won't simply keeping the belt clipped?

 

[Althea]

I use that when i make the few minutes drive from my house to the golf course when I’m in Hawaii. It’s not a public road and the speed limit is 10 mph.

I do know that a car must reach a certain speed before the ringer comes on. It might be different on various vehicles.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

I seriously doubt that any automaker is going to go through the expense of those high tech parameters. If the dummy clip works, why won't simply keeping the belt clipped?

Because the last time the safety nuts tried this they included the features I mentioned. They were clever enough to see that someone might do that so they required that the system nullify that being done.

Today, doing that is a matter of programming a chip to recognize that the belt was clipped in place without weight on the seat and set the seatbelt alarm off. Or that the weight on the seat occurred after the seatbelt was clipped into place.

In industrial ladder logic of the sort, this stuff uses, it's just one or two lines of code to add.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Coming soon, a new seatbelt safety requirement will have all seats in a vehicle wired to set off the ding-a-ling seatbelt warning when occupied.

Seat belt warnings will soon be required for rear seats: Here's what to know

Implementation of the rule is expected to prevent more than 50 vehicle-related deaths each year, NHTSA says.

www.usatoday.com

Mandatory Rear Seat Belt Alarms Coming To All US Cars In 2027 | Carscoops

A similar rule for rear passenger seat belt reminders has been into effect in the European Union since 2019

www.carscoops.com

U.S. to Mandate Rear Seat Belt Alarms in New Vehicles by 2027 - Motor Illustrated

New U.S. vehicles will require Rear seat belt alarms starting September 2027. NHTSA estimates the rule will save 50 lives annually and prevent 500 injuries. Front-seat alerts will also be enhanced, with rules taking effect in 2026. On Monday, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration...

motorillustrated.com

Now, this might seem like a good idea, but it's not. It will drive you insane if you use your vehicle to do anything other than haul passengers in those seats. Got the dog that likes to bounce from seat to seat sticking his head out the window? Be prepared for perpetual ding-a-linging from the seatbelt warning thing. Carry shopping, tools, supplies, or other non-passenger stuff in the seats regularly? Be prepared to have to seat belt them in.

This was tried back in the early 70's and within just a few years was tossed because it caused so many people problems doing stuff like I gave examples of. This will just add cost and major annoyance to car owners for no good return on anything. You can't fix stupid, and you probably shouldn't. We should let stupid kill itself off like nature intended.

I agree that seat belt alarms suck,
and I fully admit that I was much more comfortable as a kid, driving without the belts back in the day.

What I hate most, however, are the head restraints that force me to remove my hat.
I don't always wear caps. I'm not Stone.
When I dress up, I like to wear a proper hat, and the head restraints don't allow it.

 

[Althea]

Because the last time the safety nuts tried this they included the features I mentioned. They were clever enough to see that someone might do that so they required that the system nullify that being done.

Today, doing that is a matter of programming a chip to recognize that the belt was clipped in place without weight on the seat and set the seatbelt alarm off. Or that the weight on the seat occurred after the seatbelt was clipped into place.

In industrial ladder logic of the sort, this stuff uses, it's just one or two lines of code to add.

Thus far, I've read nothing to suggest this technology.