The shame and disgrace of Election Deniers

Nordberg said:
The AG has nothing to do with the certifying if the 50 individual states. It is not his purview.
Is that the craziness you are clinging to? You are even farther out than I believed.
Some states have certified the vote already,. They did not give it to Barr to approve. They have their own procedures,https://www.cbsnews.com/news/when-do-states-certify-election-results/
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Typically, SecStates certify election results. YakudaMutt would love it if Billy Barr had to certify the results.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Spoken from the perspective of an unrealistic optimist, I fear.

Their behavior is as American as it gets.
America as presently configured is a morally deficient nation.

You could make a weak argument that some of the 63,000,000 people who voted for Trump the first time were duped.
I don't buy it. The diseased orangutan made no effort to disguise who he was in 2016.

The 70,000,000 maggots who voted for him in 2020 are beyond having weak excuses made for them.
They saw his act.
They liked it.
They voted for more.
They are lower than the parasites who eat the whale shit at the bottom of the Mariana Trench.
No present language used on the planet has words to describe just how perverted those seventy million trumpanzees are--without a single exception.

An America which includes them as citizens is not anything approaching a decent and moral nation.
The behavior of those vermin to which you allude is as American as American gets right now.
The rest of us join them in depravity by tolerating them.
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Well Nifty, what do you propose? Cattle cars and camps? Or shall we go with a good old fashioned pogrom?
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Blue State America after partition would be a truly great nation.
50-state America as presently configured is a morally as well as physically diseased nation.
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How exactly would that work? Blue areas are urban, and red areas are rural. Nearly every blue state has red areas, while nearly every red state has blue ones.
 
AssHatZombie said:
so go.

our bill of rights is the greatest document in human history.

if you disagree gtfo.
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The Bill of Rights was a political tool. An afterthought. Nothing more. Nothing less. Needed to get the anti-Federalists on board.

Madison needed the promise of it to his constituents in order to win a seat in Virginia, then controlled by a powerful anti-Federalist, Patrick Henry.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
You're a big enough "true believer," ie., idiot, to think that socially regressive America is right while not China but Scandinavia and similar civilized cultures are wrong.

Perhaps you were poorly bred and poorly educated. I don't know. But if you've ever been anywhere, you realize the areas in which America is shamefully lacking.
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Socially regressive would be a good description of the direction much of the West is headed in, and I would include America in that, but it would be the areas you have an affinity for.

Thankfully, there are parts of both America and Europe that don't follow the social left's agenda. Poland is a good example of a country that has rejected much of the economic and social left, because they have firsthand experience with being dominated by Communists while also having a great amount of cultural pride.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
You stupid fuck.
Ever hear of immigrations laws?
Americans aren't welcome to emigrate to any civilized nation.
We're unwelcome, and we've more than earned it.
When we travel abroad, the first thing that customs asks to see is our return tickets home.
Haven't you been anywhere?
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Not true at all, actually. If anything, our government is more restrictive towards Europeans than they are towards letting us in, but that's because of legislation passed here in 1965.

Immigrating to the EU, in most of its countries, isn't really that hard at all. It's only slightly more bureaucratic than immigrating to Canada.
 
Saudade said:
Well Nifty, what do you propose? Cattle cars and camps? Or shall we go with a good old fashioned pogrom?
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Nothing that dramatic.
I propose a civilly negotiated divorce.
The 50-state model is a laughable albeit tragic failure.

Draconian measure are what will come if we don't peacefully partition.
I have no doubt about that.
 
Saudade said:
How exactly would that work? Blue areas are urban, and red areas are rural. Nearly every blue state has red areas, while nearly every red state has blue ones.
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Tha majority in each state will approve of the government with which that state aligned.
Those who don't like it will have the choice to relocate or live with it.

Right now everybody is living with something that's unlivable.
We can all move to New York or California and still have assholes from Bald Knob, Oklahoma having a vote in our government.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Tha majority in each state will approve of the government with which that state aligned.
Those who don't like it will have the choice to relocate or live with it.

Right now everybody is living with something that's unlivable.
We can all move to New York or California and still have assholes from Bald Knob, Oklahoma having a vote in our government.
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so "trail of tears" then?
 
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