The Skill Collapse"If Only You Knew How Bad Things Really Are"

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Actually, I knew that, but it doesn't require you be a coding genius to do it. Rather, you'd be better off being a mathematician and coming up with something like a new and more effective algorithm to sort data or the like. Writing the program is the easy part.

you apparently don't know shit.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Those companies want code monkeys because it's another job Americans are unwilling to do. Well, these days the under 30 crowd are damn near unwilling to work at all...

bullshit.

they want slaves with no options.

you're human shit, a liar, and a traitor.

now go eat your bag of dicks, asshole.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

bullshit.

they want slaves with no options.

you're human shit, a liar, and a traitor.

now go eat your bag of dicks, asshole.

Is that you evince? It sure sounds like you.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Is that you evince? It sure sounds like you.

fuck off fascist globalist traitor to humanity.

you're trash.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

It is you! Hey everyone, I found evince!

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

It is you! Hey everyone, I found evince!

eat an ass neocon shit eater.

 

[ULTRA MAGA]

eat an ass neocon shit eater.

You have certainly devolved into an irrational ass wipe lately.

Maybe a break from politics before it breaks your brain?

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

It is you! Hey everyone, I found evince!

but why do we need h1bs if coding is so easy?

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

You have certainly devolved into an irrational ass wipe lately.

Maybe a break from politics before it breaks your brain?

fuck you globalist fake maga traitor.

now it's your turn to eat your bag of dicks.

go feel special doing it.

 

[Into the Night]

Coding is the equivalent of this today:

It's semi-skilled, low-pay, repetitive grunt work.

Did you know people still type? You have to type to code? We still use the QWERTY keyboard and everything? Did you know that people can get paid a LOT OF MONEY to write code?

The only thing that has changed from this photo is the machine you are typing on.

 

[Into the Night]

AI will replace most, but not all, of them.

AI is written and maintained by programmers, Sybil.

 

[Into the Night]

I'd like to add that code editing by itself is an invaluable skill that should be taught in high school but isn't. "Typing" (or "Keyboarding") should be expanded to include proficiency in editors like vi(m).

Also, basic modeling, for communication purposes.

Imagine if high school students could code, edit and model, and then add onto that basic database experience and familiarity with SQL, JSON, APIs and object oriented design, and we would have massive value emerging from our high schools.

The schools can't teach what they do not know.
BTW, New Jersey teachers no longer have to be able to read and write to teach.

 

[Into the Night]

With a degree in programming, among other things. I figured I needed to know the enemy.

Why do you figure a computer programmer is your enemy??? Computer programming is not a degree, license, certification, college, university, book, or website.

 

[Into the Night]

I coded a lot of controller boards using microprocessors, mostly using assembly and machine language. It was indeed tedious and boring. That was one of the reasons it paid well; nobody wanted to do it. With electronic devices, a lot of it was merely calculating dozens of timing loops across gates, capacitors, resistors, etc. so that data reached inputs and outputs at the correct times together across multiple electronic components on the same digital clock cycles. Karnaugh mapping was kind of challenging, but after that it was all pure tedium. Higher level languages were even more boring.

Heh. To each their own. There are people that are just as happy writing stuff for the cloud in Python, and it can also pay pretty well.

 

[Into the Night]

It really is not. A lot of the stuff that would be repetitive grunt work has been replaced by nocoding methods.

Programmers WRITE and maintain that stuff, Wally.

 

[Into the Night]

Maybe back in the 1970's, but today there is a fair amount of school learning that you have to do to become a really hardcore software engineer.

Nope. Programming is not a school. Programming is something anyone can learn, if only they have the wit and the will, Wally.

Do you think an iPhone is soldered by people?

Partially. It is largely soldered by a machine that is built and programmed by people, then people solder key components by hand.

If you have a masters degree in computer science, computer engineering, or something serious like that, you can pickup any new techniques in a few hours. If not, you might be able to learn them sooner or later on the job, but it will be difficult.

Computer programming is not a degree, license, certification, or school.

You are having trouble understanding the difference between education and training.

Inversion fallacy. You are describing yourself, Wally.

 

[Into the Night]

yes.

we know you're an h1b traitor who lies about Americans.

Buzzword fallacies. Go learn English.

 

[Into the Night]

so why should all the jobs be given to immigrants?

They aren't.

because globalists hate Americans and Indians are racist against white people?

Inversion fallacy. Go stuff your racism up your butt.

 

[Into the Night]

there is no justification for h1b visas except short term corporate greed.

fuck Elon musk.

fuck Vivek and whoever else too.

Corporations are not evil. Neither is Elon Musk.

 

[Into the Night]

Those companies want code monkeys because it's another job Americans are unwilling to do. Well, these days the under 30 crowd are damn near unwilling to work at all...

There is poor work ethic for a lot of younger people, that's true. Has nothing to do with programming in particular. Non-sequitur fallacy.