The Tangerine Turnip causes beef prices to skyrocket

FastLane said:
If we buy to much imported need it hurts the rancher in America get back on their feet because they can't afford to increase herd size. Do you want to be dependent on other countries to raise our food or do you want America to be able to raise the food we eat? It is a matter of national security.
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If Crazy Trump can just snap his fingers and make great things happen, like you believe, than what is he waiting for????????????
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Wow. Just wow...
Ranchers ranch. They raise cattle on grass. Grass is not fertilized. (Many ranchers lease federal grassland.)
Feed lots feed cattle to prepare them for slaughter. They feed them silage and hay which does require fertilizer.

When did this price drop in beef occur under Biden? When did this drastic decrease in herd sizes occur under Biden? It seems you are just making things up to try to justify your beliefs. Under Biden, the US was drilling more than it could use so was exporting oil. More drilling won't result in more fertilizer. More drilling is unlikely to happen since it is oil prices that dictate it being economically feasible to drill..
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You really are clueless :laugh: Herd size has been decreasing since the 1970s it trended back up from 2016-2020 and then took another dive during the Biden administration. And now our herd size is less than half what the herd size was back in the 1970s. It comes down to this who do you want raising our food. Do you want another country controlling if you eat or not?
 
Tbird19482 said:
Oil companies are NOT going to " drill baby drill " now with the price of oil being so low right now because of OPEC flooding the market.
If they can't make money they aren't going to " drill baby drill"
And Trump hasn't done a thing to bring the price of oil down the Saudis did.
It is just like back in his first term when they did this and drove over 106 US oil drillers and producers out of business,
The US oil drillers and producers went to Trump when this first started last time and asked for help Trump didn't do anything until it was too late for those 106 companies , then he finally went to the Saudis and told them to cut their production and raise prices or he was going to stop all military aid to them and they did.
And now they are doing it again and we will have to see how many US oil drillers and producers get hurt this time.
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US oil producers want their piece of the pie too. The US oil production is INCREASING because Trump has decreased costly and burdensome regulation which act to slow and decrease oil production.

An interesting side note. Black Rock is one of the world's largest investment companies used to not invest in new oil exploration that made other companies avoid new oil exploration too. That made financing new oil projects very hard. Which makes sense because Biden said he was going to eliminate oil and gas so why invest in a dying industry. Now I see TV advertising almost everyday about how they are investing in Texas Energy.
 
FastLane said:
You really are clueless :laugh: Herd size has been decreasing since the 1970s it trended back up from 2016-2020 and then took another dive during the Biden administration. And now our herd size is less than half what the herd size was back in the 1970s. It comes down to this who do you want raising our food. Do you want another country controlling if you eat or not?
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ROFLMAO...
I am looking at the USDA herd size numbers and your claim is laughable.

Cattle & Beef - Sector at a Glance | Economic Research Service

www.ers.usda.gov www.ers.usda.gov

US beef cows - highest was 1975 at 45.7 million head
US beef cows - 2025 - 27.9 million head.

Total US cattle - 1975 - 132 million
Total US cattle - 2025 - 86.7 million.

In the last 55 years, the US beef inventory has only been above 40 million head for 5 years in the 1970s. They are an aberration since the average herd size in that 55 years is 34.1 million head. In the last 40 years, there are only 2 years where the number of head topped 34 million, 1985 and 1994.
 
FastLane said:
US oil producers want their piece of the pie too. The US oil production is INCREASING because Trump has decreased costly and burdensome regulation which act to slow and decrease oil production.

An interesting side note. Black Rock is one of the world's largest investment companies used to not invest in new oil exploration that made other companies avoid new oil exploration too. That made financing new oil projects very hard. Which makes sense because Biden said he was going to eliminate oil and gas so why invest in a dying industry. Now I see TV advertising almost everyday about how they are investing in Texas Energy.
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They chose not to invest because there isn't a lot of profit in drilling right now.
And US oil production went down in Jan and Feb and that is expected and has been at record levels for over a year.
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But it is not increasing as much as it would if the price was higher.
Ceo's of large oil producers have even come out and said they won't " drill baby drill " if there isn't a decent profit in it.
 
Tbird19482 said:
NO I won't feel better about having to pay more for just about everything we have to buy .
The tariffs Trump says he is going to put on will NOT be paid by the exporting countries they are just going to pass them on to the US consumer and we ALL will be paying more for what we buy.
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Price fluctuate all the time... Relax...
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
ROFLMAO...
I am looking at the USDA herd size numbers and your claim is laughable.

Cattle & Beef - Sector at a Glance | Economic Research Service

www.ers.usda.gov www.ers.usda.gov

US beef cows - highest was 1975 at 45.7 million head
US beef cows - 2025 - 27.9 million head.

Total US cattle - 1975 - 132 million
Total US cattle - 2025 - 86.7 million.

In the last 55 years, the US beef inventory has only been above 40 million head for 5 years in the 1970s. They are an aberration since the average herd size in that 55 years is 34.1 million head. In the last 40 years, there are only 2 years where the number of head topped 34 million, 1985 and 1994.
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Population has increased. How many more illegals
must we feed since Biden opened the borders?
Farms are being sold to developers. That also factors in rising prices.
Slow growing seasons and rising feed prices also raise prices.
 
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TOP said:
Price fluctuate all the time... Relax...
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And it is going to be okay with you when Trump's tariffs kick in and prices " fluctuate " 30/40 /50% or more? ( increase the percent of his tariffs )
Driving up prices on goods Americans buy everyday on purpose is Not good for the economy and as the top world economists have been saying could drive us into a deep recession / depression that is just stupid and a lot of Americans are going to be hurt by it.
And stupid MAGAS like you just don't get it.
 
Tbird19482 said:
And it is going to be okay with you when Trump's tariffs kick in and prices " fluctuate " 30/40 /50% or more? ( increase the percent of his tariffs )
Driving up prices on goods Americans buy everyday on purpose is Not good for the economy and as the top world economists have been saying could drive us into a deep recession / depression that is just stupid and a lot of Americans are going to be hurt by it.
And stupid MAGAS like you just don't get it.
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I don't see that happening... And you've been saying this is going to happen for months... We'll chat and develop a strategy when and if it does...
 
FastLane said:
You really are clueless :laugh: Herd size has been decreasing since the 1970s it trended back up from 2016-2020 and then took another dive during the Biden administration. And now our herd size is less than half what the herd size was back in the 1970s. It comes down to this who do you want raising our food. Do you want another country controlling if you eat or not?
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Tariffs are causing prices to elevate. That is what they do. The auto industries are losing billions, and they say it is due to tariffs.
 
Nordberg said:
Tariffs are causing prices to elevate. That is what they do. The auto industries are losing billions, and they say it is due to tariffs.
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If beef prices rise the herd sizes will increase. That is what ranchers do. Auto industry and cattle industry are totally different. Just so you know. Cars go honk and cows go moo.
 
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