THE TARA READE CHARGES AGAINST JOE BIDEN.

Ross Dolan

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THE CHARGES:

Former aide, Tara Reade, who briefly worked as a staff assistant in Mr. Biden’s Senate office, told The New York Times that in 1993, Mr. Biden pinned her to a wall in a Senate building, reached under her clothing and penetrated her with his fingers.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/us/politics/joe-biden-tara-reade-sexual-assault-complaint.html

MY THOUGHTS ABOUT MEN WHO MISTREAT WOMEN IN GENERAL:

First of all, I think any man who assaults a woman in any way…is a punk and should be treated as a punk. Having said that, though, it happens! At some point, it makes more sense to put the issue aside if the assaulting individual is not a serial assaulter...and if he stops the behavior and contributes to society. That goes for people like Biden, Thomas, Kavanaugh, Clinton, and Trump.

INITIAL THOUGHTS ON THE SPECIFIC ALLEGATION:

As for the specific allegation…I have no reason to suspect that nothing happened…that the allegation is totally false. Something almost certainly happened to Ms. Reade at the hands of Joe Biden.

But the event as described by Ms. Reade sounds improbable to me. (More about that in a moment.)

MY “QUALIFICATIONS” TO MAKE A JUDGEMENT:

I was a promiscuous guy at a point in my life…a divorce, freedom from responsibility, and the advent of an age of openness all combined to allow a person like me to live a rather indulgent life. I was reasonably attractive to women…did a lot of partying…and got into lots of “interesting” circumstances.

Frankly, I decided early on that I would “do the deed” with almost any woman willing to “give it up”…but ONLY if she truly gave it up. My motto was: Only if she says, “Yes”…and anything less than an enthusiastic “YES!” was considered “No.” I pretty much lived by that motto.

But as I said, I was into many “interesting” (and informative) circumstance, so I do feel qualified to comment on this.

FURTHER THOUGHTS AND JUDGEMENT:

Let me say this without equivocation: “Pinning” a clothed woman to a wall and managing to “penetrate her” with your fingers…EVEN WITH THE WOMAN’S TOTAL COOPERATION…is one hell of a feat. Without her cooperation…I am saying it is next to impossible…unless the woman is a porn star in the “fisting” section of porn sites and had just finished shooting a segment.

At best, one might be able to “cop a feel” of some pussy hair…but penetrate??? A person would need fingers coated in Vaseline to facilitate penetration of an unaroused, standing, clothed woman. Under those circumstances, the woman would have to be panting in arousal to be wet enough for the penetration to occur without further lubricant.

As I said…something gross and unwanted may have (probably) happened. Joe Biden may have made an unwanted move on the woman…and may have gotten way more “handsy” than any man should have. But the story as suggested leaves more questions in my mind than it furnishes answers about what that “something” was.

Either Ms. Reade was a more willing participant in what occurred than she acknowledges…or she has accidentally or purposefully embellished the story considerably.

Comments?
 
As for the specific allegation…I have no reason to suspect that nothing happened…that the allegation is totally false. Something almost certainly happened to Ms. Reade at the hands of Joe Biden.

This is essentially my position as well. I was initially skeptical of her story (for a variety of reasons that have no doubt been covered ad nauseam), but it has become clear that something happened. At this point, I am open-minded and want to hear more.

I would add that if Biden has nothing to hide, he should call for a complete investigation of the matter, which should include releasing his office records from the University of Delaware.

“Pinning” a clothed woman to a wall and managing to “penetrate her” with your fingers…EVEN WITH THE WOMAN’S TOTAL COOPERATION…is one hell of a feat.

I have considered this as well. It could be that she's missing some key details due to the trauma she experienced. I will say that if the assault unfolded the way she described, she almost certainly would have been injured. I have no comment beyond that.
 
This is essentially my position as well. I was initially skeptical of her story (for a variety of reasons that have no doubt been covered ad nauseam), but it has become clear that something happened. At this point, I am open-minded and want to hear more.

I would add that if Biden has nothing to hide, he should call for a complete investigation of the matter, which should include releasing his office records from the University of Delaware.



I have considered this as well. It could be that she's missing some key details due to the trauma she experienced. I will say that if the assault unfolded the way she described, she almost certainly would have been injured. I have no comment beyond that.

You do realize at its best this is a he said/she said, one that was examined nearly two decades ago and found to be unsubstantiated, and not much since then has altered that view

I just find it kinda questionable that Biden has over fifty years in the public spotlight, and if he was the parasite the right is portraying, this is the only incident found during all that time?
 
You do realize at its best this is a he said/she said, one that was examined nearly two decades ago and found to be unsubstantiated, and not much since then has altered that view

I just find it kinda questionable that Biden has over fifty years in the public spotlight, and if he was the parasite the right is portraying, this is the only incident found during all that time?

I agree that it would be out of character for Biden; I have long supported him specifically because I believe he's a decent man capable of great compassion and empathy. The idea of him being a rapist is inconceivable to me. That being said, the call to Larry King in August 1993 shows that something happened to Reade, and that it was serious enough to consider bringing to the press. We now also have a former neighbor of Reade backing up the story. What am I supposed to make of these facts?
 
so after running a 17 year old through the muck - you shit stains are gonna write this off as boys being boys when an adult with tremendous clout and power pulls the same stunt

:rofl2:

the best reason to reelect Trump - you fucking assholes won't force the media do actually do their jobs if we elect a democrat

you circle the wagons around the Weinsteins of the world - thanks for proving it time and time again
 
I agree that it would be out of character for Biden; I have long supported him specifically because I believe he's a decent man capable of great compassion and empathy. The idea of him being a rapist is inconceivable to me. That being said, the call to Larry King in August 1993 shows that something happened to Reade, and that it was serious enough to consider bringing to the press. We now also have a former neighbor of Reade backing up the story. What am I supposed to make of these facts?

That it is a he said/she said incident at best, as I said, it was examined at the time, it wasn't swept under any rug, it was shortly after the Clarence Thomas era when such charges were recognized, if nothing else, Larry King gave it attention making it known, unless something really new arose I wouldn't give any more more attention beyond he said/she said

There is a reason it is promoted by the right wing media, they are attempting to create a false parallel to Trump's history inorder to neutralize any such attacks against Trump, attemptimg the same with Biden's kid and Ukraine to keep Trump's kids/businesses out of the spotlight
 
so after running a 17 year old through the muck - you shit stains are gonna write this off as boys being boys when an adult with tremendous clout and power pulls the same stunt

:rofl2:

the best reason to reelect Trump - you fucking assholes won't force the media do actually do their jobs if we elect a democrat

you circle the wagons around the Weinsteins of the world - thanks for proving it time and time again

Thanks Rush
 
it was examined at the time

Really? How so?

There is a reason it is promoted by the right wing media, they are attempting to create a false parallel to Trump's history inorder to neutralize any such attacks against Trump, attemptimg the same with Biden's kid and Ukraine to keep Trump's kids/businesses out of the spotlight

I agree completely. It's disgusting. But that doesn't mean Reade's story is untrue.
 
This is essentially my position as well. I was initially skeptical of her story (for a variety of reasons that have no doubt been covered ad nauseam), but it has become clear that something happened. At this point, I am open-minded and want to hear more.

I would add that if Biden has nothing to hide, he should call for a complete investigation of the matter, which should include releasing his office records from the University of Delaware.



I have considered this as well. It could be that she's missing some key details due to the trauma she experienced. I will say that if the assault unfolded the way she described, she almost certainly would have been injured. I have no comment beyond that.

Thank you, Joe.

Something did happen...but it did not happen the way it was described.

That is my point here.
 
You do realize at its best this is a he said/she said, one that was examined nearly two decades ago and found to be unsubstantiated, and not much since then has altered that view

I just find it kinda questionable that Biden has over fifty years in the public spotlight, and if he was the parasite the right is portraying, this is the only incident found during all that time?

Thank you, Archives.

I think the world of Joe Biden...and this sounds out-of-character. But even the best of people occasionally screw up.

It seems to me that something did happen...just not what was described.
 
so after running a 17 year old through the muck - you shit stains are gonna write this off as boys being boys when an adult with tremendous clout and power pulls the same stunt

:rofl2:

the best reason to reelect Trump - you fucking assholes won't force the media do actually do their jobs if we elect a democrat

you circle the wagons around the Weinsteins of the world - thanks for proving it time and time again

Thank you for your comments...even though I think you are way off base.
 
That it is a he said/she said incident at best, as I said, it was examined at the time, it wasn't swept under any rug, it was shortly after the Clarence Thomas era when such charges were recognized, if nothing else, Larry King gave it attention making it known, unless something really new arose I wouldn't give any more more attention beyond he said/she said

There is a reason it is promoted by the right wing media, they are attempting to create a false parallel to Trump's history inorder to neutralize any such attacks against Trump, attemptimg the same with Biden's kid and Ukraine to keep Trump's kids/businesses out of the spotlight

Yup...that...and the fact that they realize Joe Biden may very well kick Trump's ass all over the place in November.
 
Frank & Archives:

What do you make of Reade's former neighbor supporting her story? This, to me, is one of the more troubling revelations.
 
Reades story is falling apart in many ways. But the Reds know charges stick to Dems. They run off Republicans backs.
However, due to many states not having primaries, what happens if Joe shows up to the convention with under 1991?
 
That it is a he said/she said incident at best, as I said, it was examined at the time, it wasn't swept under any rug, it was shortly after the Clarence Thomas era when such charges were recognized, if nothing else, Larry King gave it attention making it known, unless something really new arose I wouldn't give any more more attention beyond he said/she said

There is a reason it is promoted by the right wing media, they are attempting to create a false parallel to Trump's history inorder to neutralize any such attacks against Trump, attemptimg the same with Biden's kid and Ukraine to keep Trump's kids/businesses out of the spotlight

To quote the late great Tupac Shakur "there's a lot of real g's doing time, 'cause a groupie bit the truth and told a lie". Women have been lying for centuries so you're not wrong to say its he said/she said and to not take her side.

However, you are fond of calling out people on the right for their hypocrisy. And there's nothing wrong with that. But you know the thing about glass houses. Making excuses and blaming right wingers because the election is the most important thing in this case is a mirror.
 
Frank & Archives:

What do you make of Reade's former neighbor supporting her story? This, to me, is one of the more troubling revelations.

None of the "revelations" bother me. I am certain something happened.

I just do not think it was even close to what she alleges.
 
You do realize at its best this is a he said/she said, one that was examined nearly two decades ago and found to be unsubstantiated, and not much since then has altered that view

I just find it kinda questionable that Biden has over fifty years in the public spotlight, and if he was the parasite the right is portraying, this is the only incident found during all that time?
Her first telling of the story mirrored the other accusers, invasion of personal space, then after Biden became the nominee she up to game to sexual assault. I become suspicious of women whose sexual assault stories keep changing. When you are a true victim, you have one story, it doesn’t change.
 
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