JoeFromFargo
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No, I do not. I also do not think it should derail dementia Joe's candidacy.
Which aspects of the story lead you to not believe it? Just curious.
No, I do not. I also do not think it should derail dementia Joe's candidacy.
Which aspects of the story lead you to not believe it? Just curious.
Her hazy recollections and the fact that, again, she waited until now? Why now? It smacks of a political agenda from someone possibly mad that Bernie is out.
I didn't believe Christine Blasey Ford either. You see, unlike the leftist hypocrites on the forum, I am consistent.
It's been my observation that many conservatives do believe Reade's story and gleefully propagate it as though it were established fact. The hypocrisy goes both ways. But, yes, you are among the consistent ones.
Did you believe any of the accusations against Bill Clinton?
This is a money-grab by Reade and probably was from the very beginning in 1995.
The call from her mother probably means she was either in on it with her daughter, or she was a trusting mother who was taken in by the snow job too.
My guess is that Reade wanted to have an affair with a powerful US Senator. She came on to Biden in his office or wherever they were, got him aroused, some face sucking happened, both their hands went to places below the waist but then, after Biden thought better of it and put a stop t it, she got pissed off and wanted revenge and money.
Where was she and her story in 2008 and 2012?
There weren't any accusations; they were all proven facts. Remember, Clinton wasn't impeached for banging an intern in the White House, which in itself is very poor judgement, but for obstructing the investigation and lying under oath which he admitted to.
That brings up more Democrat hypocrisy; assholes Nadler declared the Clinton impeachment was lowering the standard for impeachement. What was Trump's impeachment without a crime? Seeing a pattern here?
There weren't any accusations; they were all proven facts. Remember, Clinton wasn't impeached for banging an intern in the White House, which in itself is very poor judgement, but for obstructing the investigation and lying under oath which he admitted to.
That brings up more Democrat hypocrisy; assholes Nadler declared the Clinton impeachment was lowering the standard for impeachement. What was Trump's impeachment without a crime? Seeing a pattern here?
Well...these are similar to the thoughts that I initially had. When any trumpkin makes an issue of the claim, I simply tell them that Biden has a calendar from that year, and it shows that he was having brewskies with the guys. He couldn't have done it.THE CHARGES:
Former aide, Tara Reade, who briefly worked as a staff assistant in Mr. Biden’s Senate office, told The New York Times that in 1993, Mr. Biden pinned her to a wall in a Senate building, reached under her clothing and penetrated her with his fingers.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/us/politics/joe-biden-tara-reade-sexual-assault-complaint.html
MY THOUGHTS ABOUT MEN WHO MISTREAT WOMEN IN GENERAL:
First of all, I think any man who assaults a woman in any way…is a punk and should be treated as a punk. Having said that, though, it happens! At some point, it makes more sense to put the issue aside if the assaulting individual is not a serial assaulter...and if he stops the behavior and contributes to society. That goes for people like Biden, Thomas, Kavanaugh, Clinton, and Trump.
INITIAL THOUGHTS ON THE SPECIFIC ALLEGATION:
As for the specific allegation…I have no reason to suspect that nothing happened…that the allegation is totally false. Something almost certainly happened to Ms. Reade at the hands of Joe Biden.
But the event as described by Ms. Reade sounds improbable to me. (More about that in a moment.)
MY “QUALIFICATIONS” TO MAKE A JUDGEMENT:
I was a promiscuous guy at a point in my life…a divorce, freedom from responsibility, and the advent of an age of openness all combined to allow a person like me to live a rather indulgent life. I was reasonably attractive to women…did a lot of partying…and got into lots of “interesting” circumstances.
Frankly, I decided early on that I would “do the deed” with almost any woman willing to “give it up”…but ONLY if she truly gave it up. My motto was: Only if she says, “Yes”…and anything less than an enthusiastic “YES!” was considered “No.” I pretty much lived by that motto.
But as I said, I was into many “interesting” (and informative) circumstance, so I do feel qualified to comment on this.
FURTHER THOUGHTS AND JUDGEMENT:
Let me say this without equivocation: “Pinning” a clothed woman to a wall and managing to “penetrate her” with your fingers…EVEN WITH THE WOMAN’S TOTAL COOPERATION…is one hell of a feat. Without her cooperation…I am saying it is next to impossible…unless the woman is a porn star in the “fisting” section of porn sites and had just finished shooting a segment.
At best, one might be able to “cop a feel” of some pussy hair…but penetrate??? A person would need fingers coated in Vaseline to facilitate penetration of an unaroused, standing, clothed woman. Under those circumstances, the woman would have to be panting in arousal to be wet enough for the penetration to occur without further lubricant.
As I said…something gross and unwanted may have (probably) happened. Joe Biden may have made an unwanted move on the woman…and may have gotten way more “handsy” than any man should have. But the story as suggested leaves more questions in my mind than it furnishes answers about what that “something” was.
Either Ms. Reade was a more willing participant in what occurred than she acknowledges…or she has accidentally or purposefully embellished the story considerably.
Comments?
She mentions that he once asked her to be a cocktail waitress at a fundraiser, because she was extremely attractive. That's a textbook definition of sexual harassment. If she got an attitude because of that, it's understandable.This is essentially my position as well. I was initially skeptical of her story (for a variety of reasons that have no doubt been covered ad nauseam), but it has become clear that something happened. At this point, I am open-minded and want to hear more.
I would add that if Biden has nothing to hide, he should call for a complete investigation of the matter, which should include releasing his office records from the University of Delaware.
I have considered this as well. It could be that she's missing some key details due to the trauma she experienced. I will say that if the assault unfolded the way she described, she almost certainly would have been injured. I have no comment beyond that.
Same here...aside from some inappropriate sniffing, there is nothing in his history.You do realize at its best this is a he said/she said, one that was examined nearly two decades ago and found to be unsubstantiated, and not much since then has altered that view
I just find it kinda questionable that Biden has over fifty years in the public spotlight, and if he was the parasite the right is portraying, this is the only incident found during all that time?
She can't actually support the story. She only states that Reade 'mentioned something'.Frank & Archives:
What do you make of Reade's former neighbor supporting her story? This, to me, is one of the more troubling revelations.
Franken overreacted because it was an election year, and he stepped down to protect the party. Fuck Gillibrand. She's a marked politician in NY now.Me, too.
He must see these things and wonder...WTF!
Well...these are similar to the thoughts that I initially had. When any trumpkin makes an issue of the claim, I simply tell them that Biden has a calendar from that year, and it shows that he was having brewskies with the guys. He couldn't have done it.
He loves beer. All of his friends love beer. Always did, always will.
Everyone should love beer.
I think she was an Obama supporterThis is a money-grab by Reade and probably was from the very beginning in 1995.
The call from her mother probably means she was either in on it with her daughter, or she was a trusting mother who was taken in by the snow job too.
My guess is that Reade wanted to have an affair with a powerful US Senator. She came on to Biden in his office or wherever they were, got him aroused, some face sucking happened, both their hands went to places below the waist but then, after Biden thought better of it and put a stop t it, she got pissed off and wanted revenge and money.
Where was she and her story in 2008 and 2012?
What she accused him of is totally in character with creepy, bully Joe. He did it alright.
so after running a 17 year old through the muck - you shit stains are gonna write this off as boys being boys when an adult with tremendous clout and power pulls the same stunt
the best reason to reelect Trump - you fucking assholes won't force the media do actually do their jobs if we elect a democrat
you circle the wagons around the Weinsteins of the world - thanks for proving it time and time again