The tipping state was Pennsylvania

the election was only close because of the Putin like advantages of the Democrats


without the propaganda the democrats are done

And it was propaganda. For instance, crime was not down. fact checking with this lie is exactly how the left is doing it
 
Walt said:
There cannot be three tipping point states. By definition a tipping point state is the state that as the votes shift, the election outcome completely changes at that point.
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Yes, but there was some Nate Silver article talking about three potential tipping states (or something to that effect). Other than an academic exercise it doesn't mean much.
 
cawacko said:
Yes, but there was some Nate Silver article talking about three potential tipping states (or something to that effect). Other than an academic exercise it doesn't mean much.
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Yes, there were three POTENTIAL tipping point states before the election, but now that we know the results, we know that Pennsylvania was the tipping point states.

The tipping point state defines who wins the election, so as such means a lot.
 
Walt said:
Yes, there were three POTENTIAL tipping point states before the election, but now that we know the results, we know that Pennsylvania was the tipping point states.

The tipping point state defines who wins the election, so as such means a lot.
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Ok? PA was the tipping point state in 2016 as was Wisconsin in 2020. Are we acting any differently today than if a different state were a tipping point? Is legislation going to change as a result?
 
Daylight63 said:
No real argument. It presupposes that MAGA doesn't morph into what it gave hints it was capable of back in 2020, but I think that's a fair assumption.

The GOP is tipping over into the MAGA party now as more GOP legislators disavow their rational responses to Trump so that they may kiss the ring in hopes of currying favor. That's what politicians do.

If the GOP goes TOO FAR MAGA then their options will be limited in the future. MAGA has already shown them a POTENTIAL play book but the MAGA movement itself lacks "strategy". Which is why the Project 2025 stuff is kind of unsettling. It shows that the bottom feeders who usually stay buried in the mud have started rising up hoping to exploit Trump's "levers". And some of them are smart enough to know how to construct strategy and implement plans (something Trump, himself, lacks).

If these two things get together MAGA will do enough damage that the GOP will probably be toast unless they take a page out of the MAGA playbook and do what is "necessary" to maintain their power.
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It is the party of trump now. The question is when inflation goes to double digits, and there is a recession, whether it will still be the party of trump or not.
 
cawacko said:
Ok? PA was the tipping point state in 2016 as was Wisconsin in 2020. Are we acting any differently today than if a different state were a tipping point? Is legislation going to change as a result?
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No, we are using the tipping point state to figure out how much the popular vote would have to shift to change the election results. That allows us to understand how close the election was.
 
Walt said:
You do not know what a tipping point state is?

OK, you look at the states in order of how close the election is, and figure out which states would have to flip to change the result. So a margin of 0.9% would have gotten Wisconsin(10 Electors), a margin of 1.4% would have gotten Michigan(15 Electors), and a margin of 1.7 would have gotten Pennsylvania (19 Electors). That makes 270 Electors. Pennsylvania is the tipping point state.


If you do not understand something, just ask.
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There was no "tipping point state".

The margins in all three of those rust belt states were severely narrowed from where they actually are in reality due to (thankfully failed) election fraud efforts.
 
Walt said:
The tipping state was Pennsylvania, and a 0.86% in the PA vote would have meant the President would be Harris. While not the closest election we have ever seen, a 0.005% shift in the 2000 election would have changed the results, 2024 is still very close.

If trump delivers his promised success, then he will widen the tiny margin in future elections. If not, the Republicans are looking at some future lean years. Any normal person realizes this, and I do not see why anyone would argue with it.

Does anyone have an argument with that simple assertion?
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So you made it to the "bargaining" stage of your grief!
 
Walt said:
It is the party of trump now. The question is when inflation goes to double digits, and there is a recession, whether it will still be the party of trump or not.
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Trump will do nothing wrong. By definition. Anything Trump does will immediately be declared "good" and everything will go on. When we DO hit depression level economy here it will mysteriously be Biden's fault. Or HIllary's or someone's.

Not Trump.

Trump is incapable of doing anything badly. Even his 6 bankruptcies were perfect.
 
cawacko said:
Yes, but there was some Nate Silver article talking about three potential tipping states (or something to that effect). Other than an academic exercise it doesn't mean much.
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:rofl2: :rofl2:

Sorry, I just have to laugh any time that I see Nate Silver's name mentioned anywhere. That guy is the biggest fraud of all fraudsters.
 
Diogenes said:
No?

Mid-Michigan clerks find out-of-town ballots in drop boxes​



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Fucking NO. You should volunteer for elections. The system is terrific. Trump proved how well it works. You should have paid attention. He was given every thing he asked for and came up empty so he mounted an insurrection.
 
Walt said:
The tipping state was Pennsylvania, and a 0.86% in the PA vote would have meant the President would be Harris. While not the closest election we have ever seen, a 0.005% shift in the 2000 election would have changed the results, 2024 is still very close.

If trump delivers his promised success, then he will widen the tiny margin in future elections. If not, the Republicans are looking at some future lean years. Any normal person realizes this, and I do not see why anyone would argue with it.

Does anyone have an argument with that simple assertion?
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As Carvelle said, Pennsylvania is Philly in the East, Pittsburgh in the West, and a whole lot of Alabama inbetween, and if you’ve ever driven across it, you’d agree
 
archives said:
As Carvelle said, Pennsylvania is Philly in the East, Pittsburgh in the West, and a whole lot of Alabama inbetween, and if you’ve ever driven across it, you’d agree
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It often seems like Pennsylbama, or Pennsyltucky. It is a lot of different states in one, making it the ultimate battleground state.

It did not go our way this time around. Many previous times it did go our way, and I have high hopes for the future.
 
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