The Woody Allen Allegations: Not So Fast

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Fascinating article in the Daily Beast about Woody Allen, it dispels a hell of a lot of myths about him and Mia Farrow.

Every time I stumble upon this topic on the internet, it seems the people who are most outraged are also the most ignorant of the facts. Following are the top ten misconceptions, followed by my response in italics:

#1: Soon-Yi was Woody’s daughter. False.

#2: Soon-Yi was Woody’s step-daughter. False.

#3: Soon-Yi was Woody and Mia’s adopted daughter. False. Soon-Yi was the adopted daughter of Mia Farrow and André Previn. Her full name was Soon-Yi Farrow Previn.

#4: Woody and Mia were married. False.

#5: Woody and Mia lived together. False. Woody lived in his apartment on Fifth Ave. Mia and her kids lived on Central Park West. In fact, Woody never once stayed over night at Mia’s apartment in 12 years.

#6: Woody and Mia had a common-law marriage. False. New York State does not recognize common law marriage. Even in states that do, a couple has to cohabitate for a certain number of years.

#7: Soon-Yi viewed Woody as a father figure. False. Soon-Yi saw Woody as her mother’s boyfriend. Her father figure was her adoptive father, André Previn.

#8: Soon-Yi was underage when she and Woody started having relations. False. She was either 19 or 21. (Her year of birth in Korea was undocumented, but believed to be either 1970 or ’72.)

#9: Soon-Yi was borderline retarded. Ha! She’s smart as a whip, has a degree from Columbia University and speaks more languages than you.

#10: Woody was grooming Soon-Yi from an early age to be his child bride. Oh, come on! According to court documents and Mia’s own memoir, until 1990 (when Soon-Yi was 18 or 20), Woody “had little to do with any of the Previn children, (but) had the least to do with Soon-Yi” so Mia encouraged him to spend more time with her. Woody started taking her to basketball games, and the rest is tabloid history. So he hardly “had his eye on her” from the time she was a child.

Read more: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/27/the-woody-allen-allegations-not-so-fast.html
 
I did.

What's your opinion?

Even if he wanted to I just don't see how he could have got away with it. Mia Farrow has many questions to answer herself such as why did she lie for so long about the father of Ronan Farrow (née Satchel). She was also instrumental in causing the nervous breakdown of Dory Previn so anything she says I take with a massive pinch of salt.
 
Even if he wanted to I just don't see how he could have got away with it. Mia Farrow has many questions to answer hersonan Farrow (née Satchel)elf, such as why did she lie to Woody for so long about the father of Ronan Farrow (née Satchel). She was also instrumental in causing the nervous breakdown of Dory Previn so anything she says I take with a massive pinch of salt.

Are you saying both women lied?
 
Fascinating article in the Daily Beast about Woody Allen, it dispels a hell of a lot of myths about him and Mia Farrow.



Read more: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/27/the-woody-allen-allegations-not-so-fast.html

This is of course all irrelevant since it is Mia's adopted daughter, Dylan, who is making the allegations of sexual abuse, not Soon-Yi. So once again you are quick to jump to the defense of the accused abuser with an irrelevant and meaningless argument.
 
This is of course all irrelevant since it is Mia's adopted daughter, Dylan, who is making the allegations of sexual abuse, not Soon-Yi. So once again you are quick to jump to the defense of the accused abuser with an irrelevant and meaningless argument.

Read the whole article instead jumping to conclusions, apart from a motive where did he even get the opportunity?
 
Even if he wanted to I just don't see how he could have got away with it. Mia Farrow has many questions to answer herself such as why did she lie for so long about the father of Ronan Farrow (née Satchel). She was also instrumental in causing the nervous breakdown of Dory Previn so anything she says I take with a massive pinch of salt.

Really washer woman, she caused the nervous breakdown of another person, how exactly did she cause that? Please expand on that if you can, because I would think that it would be eaier to show cause and effect in just about any other arena than the psychological. So give it your best shot!

But even if all this cause and effect could be proven how would this absolve Woody Allen from the sexual assaults and abuse claimed by Dylan in her letter. It wouldn't, and it is as irrelevant as your first compilation of facts.
 
Really washer woman, she caused the nervous breakdown of another person, how exactly did she cause that? Please expand on that if you can, because I would think that it would be eaier to show cause and effect in just about any other arena than the psychological. So give it your best shot!

But even if all this cause and effect could be proven how would this absolve Woody Allen from the Sexual abuse claimed by Dylan in her letter. It wouldn't, and it is as irrelevant as your first compilation of facts.

You purport to be intelligent so I am sure that a towering intellect like yours is capable of googling the facts for yourself.
 
Seeing as some people are having trouble reading the article, I have decided to help them.

Now, on to the more delicate issue of Mia’s accusations during the custody case that Woody sexually abused Dylan/Malone.

A brief but chilling synopsis of the accusation is as follows: On August 4, 1992, almost four months after the revelation about Woody and Soon-Yi’s relationship understandably ignited a firestorm within the Farrow household, Woody was visiting Frog Hollow, the Farrow country home in Bridgewater, Connecticut, where Mia and several of her kids were staying. During an unsupervised moment, Woody allegedly took Dylan into the attic and, shall we say, “touched her inappropriately.” Later in the day, it was alleged that the child was wearing her sundress, but that her underpants were missing. The following day, Mia’s daughter allegedly told her mother what had happened, and Mia put the child’s recounting of the story on videotape as evidence.

Did this event actually occur? If we’re inclined to give it a second thought, we can each believe what we want, but none of us know. Why does the adult Malone say it happened? Because she obviously believes it did, so good for her for speaking out about it in Vanity Fair. Her brother Ronan believes it happened, so good for him for sticking up for his sister in 140 characters or less. They’ve both grown up in a household where this scenario has been accepted as indisputable fact, so why shouldn’t they believe it?

I know I’m treading a delicate path here, and opening myself up to accusations of “blaming the victim.” However, I’m merely floating scenarios to consider, and you can think what you will. But if Mia’s account is true, it means that in the middle of custody and support negotiations, during which Woody needed to be on his best behavior, in a house belonging to his furious ex-girlfriend, and filled with people seething mad at him, Woody, who is a well-known claustrophobic, decided this would be the ideal time and place to take his daughter into an attic and molest her, quickly, before a house full of children and nannies noticed they were both missing.

Even people who give Woody the benefit of the doubt and defend him on the internet are often confused on a few points. Some mistakenly say that the court found him “not guilty” of the molestation charges. The fact is there was never such a ruling because he was never charged with a crime, since investigative authorities never found credible evidence to support Mia’s (and Dylan’s) claim.

Let’s back up a bit: Mia’s allegations of molestation automatically triggered a criminal investigation by the Connecticut State Police, who brought in an investigative team from the Yale-New Haven Hospital, whose six-month long inquiry (which included medical examinations) concluded that Dylan had not been molested. I’ve since read a recurring canard that Woody “chose” the investigative team. Yet nobody has suggested how or why Mia’s team would ever outsource the investigation to a team “chosen” by Woody. Others have said that the investigators talked to psychiatrists “on Allen’s payroll” before letting him off the hook. The only way I can explain this is that the investigators, naturally, would have spoken with Woody’s shrinks before giving him a clean bill of health. So technically, yeah, Woody’s shrinks would have been paid a lot of money by Woody over the years. (Let’s even call it an annuity.) The same would be true of his dentist, his eye doctor, and his internist.

As for the evidentiary videotape of young Dylan’s claims, it’s been noted that there were several starts and stops in the recording, essentially creating in-camera “edits” to the young girl’s commentary. This raises questions as to what was happening when the tape wasn’t running. Was Mia “coaching” her daughter off-camera, as suggested by the investigators? Mia says no—she merely turned the camera on whenever Dylan starting talking about what Daddy did. Maybe we should take Mia at her word on this. Since I wasn’t there, I think it’s good policy not to presume what took place.

The videotape and the medical exams weren’t the only problems Mia faced in bringing abuse charges against her former lover. There were problems with inconsistencies in her daughter’s off-camera narrative as well. A New York Times article dated March 26, 1993, quotes from Mia’s own testimony, during which she recalled taking the child to a doctor on the same day as the alleged incident. Farrow recalled, “I think (Dylan) said (Allen) touched her, but when asked where, she just looked around and went like this,” at which point Mia patted her shoulders. Farrow recalls she took Dylan to another doctor, four days later. On the stand, Allen’s attorney asked Mia about the second doctor’s findings: “There was no evidence of injury to the anal or vaginal area, is that correct?” Farrow answered, “Yes.”

In the midst of the proceedings, on February 2, 1993, a revealing article appeared in the Los Angeles Times, headlined: “Nanny Casts Doubt on Farrow Charges,” in which former nanny Monica Thompson (whose salary was paid by Allen, since three of the brood were also his) swore in a deposition to Allen’s attorneys that she was pressured by Farrow to support the molestation charges, and the pressure led her to resign her position. Thompson had this to say about the videotape: ““I know that the tape was made over the course of at least two and perhaps three days. I recall Ms. Farrow saying to Dylan at that time, ‘Dylan, what did daddy do… and what did he do next?’ Dylan appeared not to be interested, and Ms. Farrow would stop taping for a while and then continue.”

Thompson further revealed a conversation she had with Kristie Groteke, another nanny. “She told me that she felt guilty allowing Ms. Farrow to say those things about Mr. Allen. (Groteke) said the day Mr. Allen spent with the kids, she did not have Dylan out of her sight for longer than five minutes. She did not remember Dylan being without her underwear.”
On April 20, 1993, a sworn statement was entered into evidence by Dr. John M. Leventhal, who headed the Yale-New Haven Hospital investigative team looking into the abuse charges. An article from the New York Times dated May 4, 1993, includes some interesting excerpts of their findings. As to why the team felt the charges didn’t hold water, Leventhal states: “We had two hypotheses: one, that these were statements made by an emotionally disturbed child and then became fixed in her mind. And the other hypothesis was that she was coached or influenced by her mother. We did not come to a firm conclusion. We think that it was probably a combination.”

Leventhal further swears Dylan’s statements at the hospital contradicted each other as well as the story she told on the videotape. “Those were not minor inconsistencies. She told us initially that she hadn’t been touched in the vaginal area, and she then told us that she had, then she told us that she hadn’t.” He also said the child’s accounts had “a rehearsed quality.” At one point, she told him, “I like to cheat on my stories.” The sworn statement further concludes: “Even before the claim of abuse was made last August, the view of Mr. Allen as an evil and awful and terrible man permeated the household. The view that he had molested Soon-Yi and was a potential molester of Dylan permeated the household… It’s quite possible —as a matter of fact, we think it’s medically probable—that (Dylan) stuck to that story over time because of the intense relationship she had with her mother.” Leventhal further notes it was “very striking” that each time Dylan spoke of the abuse, she coupled it with “one, her father’s relationship with Soon-Yi, and two, the fact that it was her poor mother, her poor mother,” who had lost a career in Mr. Allen’s films.
 
You purport to be intelligent so I am sure that a towering intellect like yours is capable of googling the facts for yourself.

Darla read me about 10 sentences from the letter this morning and I got a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach that the description of what happened made me so upset I had to tell her to stop reading because it affected me deeply and it did so because it sounded true and accurate and I had a physical response to that which I have come to trust. Of course you being one of the first to always run in with irrelevancies to absolve the accused are in a different place. But I still haven't had the will to go back and finish reading it or to ask Darla to read it to me. We both agreed that there was a strong sense of truth about it. Dispute the allegations and stop trying to create a huge smoke screen of irrelevancies.
 
Darla read me about 10 sentences from the letter this morning and I got a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach that the description of what happened made me so upset I had to tell her to stop reading because it affected me deeply and it did so because it sounded true and accurate and I had a physical response to that which I have come to trust. Of course you being one of the first to always run in with irrelevancies to absolve the accused are in a different place. But I still haven't had the will to go back and finish reading it or to ask Darla to read it to me. We both agreed that there was a strong sense of truth about it. Dispute the allegations and stop trying to create a huge smoke screen of irrelevancies.

So let me get this straight, you don't actually want to read the background preferring instead to trust your instincts. Holy shit, I hope you never go for jury service as you'll have decided the case in the first ten minutes without any need to examine the evidence. I am sorry but any credibility you had, which wasn't much anyway, has just evaporated.
 
I was directed to that article this morning on the NY Times website, in the comments section. I went wanting to be convinced. This isn't Polanski. He was before my time. I don't give a shit about Chinatown and never did. This was Woody Allen. I'm a New York liberal! I love Woody Allen movies. Unfortuntley, I wasn't two paragraphs in when my stomach was sinking. This guy is an apologist who is using diversion. He doesn't refute or dispute anything. He is attacking Mia Farrow, and diverting to excusing Allen and Previn's relationship.

When these accusations first surfaced Allen spent a lot of power and money portraying Farrow as a wronged woman pulling the "he sexually abused our children" card to exact payback and gain custody. Chillingly, it now seems more likely Allen allowed his sexual relationship with Previn to become public in order to divert attention from his molestation of his 7 yo step daughter.

BTW, Allen went on to adopt two daughters with Previn.

Apparently he has no interest in sons.


http://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/archive/1992/11/farrow199211

From 1992. A highly disturbing article.

I think that to me the most harrowing thing about this whole recent debacle is that I asked myself what gain for Allen's son who started this whole thing with a tweet, and his now grown step daughter, to go on the attack like this? What will they gain? They are calling out celebrities for celebrating Allen. What will they gain with this?

Nothing.

This IMO is rage and disgust that can no longer be contained, and they've had it, and they aren't going to be quiet anymore.

This happened.

I wonder what stories his two current adopted daughters would have to tell?
 
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