The Woody Allen Allegations: Not So Fast

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Aoxomoxoa said:
Mia Farrow has many questions to answer herself such as why did she lie for so long about the father of Ronan Farrow (née Satchel). She was also instrumental in causing the nervous breakdown of Dory Previn so anything she says I take with a massive pinch of salt.
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This is a perfect example and the article Tom quotes if filled with this kind of bullshit. This is how you know someone is intellectually dishonest. they are not trying to make a real argument, they are trying to incite you against, usually the victim, but in this case Tom and the rest of the rape lovers have a problem...the victim was 7. See, even Polanski's victim was 13..most of us would blush with shame, but for the rape lovers, 13 is fair game. She wanted it. You know the little bitch wanted that 50 yo dick. And they throw in a little "and her mother...what a whoremonger, she pimped her own daughter out! what was Polanski supposed to do? refuse to fuck her?"

But a 7 yo...ohhhh, damn, ohh. uh, eh, uh. Yeah. Well, okay she didn't want it..but it never happened. She was brainwashed by this evil woman, now, wait till you hear about her!

And that's the give. That's when you know. You are not dealing with someone who wants the truth, or gives a crap about the truth.

Who gives a fuck who Mia Farrow fucked, or who the father of her son is???

This has literally less than zero to do with this situation.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
So let me get this straight, you don't actually want to read the background preferring instead to trust your instincts. Holy shit, I hope you never go for jury service as you'll have decided the case in the first ten minutes without any need to examine the evidence. I am sorry but any credibility you had, which wasn't much anyway, has just evaporated.
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Oh, excuse me washer woman but being over 70 years old and all or whatever bullshit age you think I , I was around in the 1990s when all these allegations first surfaced and got all the background then, but we never really got Dylan's version because her testimony was unavailable because she was a child and she couldn't be made to testify in open court. So I had a lot of the background and wrote the whole thing off at that time as most misogynists today will as he said she said and a woman trying to get back at the man who wronged her etc. But that is not who I am today and I listened to the letter and it was overwhelming and as I said I already sat through about a year of evidence when it first all came out in the early 90s and gave Allen the benefit of the doubt.

So, I have the other and prior evidence well in hand. So take your bullshit no-knowingism and put it up there beside your head. And today being a different person, I listened to some of Dylan's story, which was convincing in the extreme and hit a nerve, that I have learned to believe because it is coming from a place I trust, which I don't expect you to understand at all, because you're a fake scientist, how could you even have such feelings, let alone learn to trust them? But you continue with your irrelevancies about Mia and Previn and all this other bullshit you've posted here. The question is, did Allen assault and abuse Dylan? And after listening to her voice and her words, it struck me deeply that she was telling the truth, of course there has never been a rapist or child abuser or wife beater that you haven't defended so I would say it is you who probably has a problem with objectivity, not me.
 
Dantès said:
Oh, excuse me washer woman but being over 70 years old and all or whatever bullshit age you think I , I was around in the 1990s when all these allegations first surfaced and got all the background then, but we never really got Dylan's version because her testimony was unavailable because she was a child and she couldn't be made to testify in open court. So I had a lot of the background and wrote the whole thing off at that time as most misogynists today will as he said she said and a woman trying to get back at the man who wronged her etc. But that is not who I am today and I listened to the letter and it was overwhelming and as I said I already sat through about a year of evidence when it first all came out in the early 90s and gave Allen the benefit of the doubt.

So, I have the other and prior evidence well in hand. So take your bullshit no-knowingism and put it up there beside your head. And today being a different person, I listened to some of Dylan's story, which was convincing in the extreme and hit a nerve, that I have learned to believe because it is coming from a place I trust, which I don't expect you to understand at all, because you're a fake scientist, how could you even have such feelings, let alone learn to trust them? But you continue with your irrelevancies about Mia and Previn and all this other bullshit you've posted here. The question is, did Allen assault and abuse Dylan? And after listening to her voice and her words, it struck me deeply that she was telling the truth, of course there has never been a rapist or child abuser or wife beater that you haven't defended so I would say it is you who probably has a problem with objectivity, not me.
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What a load of twaddle, I can't be bothered talking to such an emotionally incontinent idiot like you. Why don't you tell me why Moses Farrow has decided to stop any contact with his mother and calls his sister's testimony brainwashing?
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
What a load of twaddle, I can't be bothered talking to such an emotionally incontinent idiot like you. Why don't you tell me why Moses Farrow has decided to stop any contact with his mother and calls his sister's testimony brainwashing?
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Well we don't know that's what he said. We know that Allen's biographer and number one fan, said he said that. I'd want to hear him say it, and then I'd like to know more about him. What's his financial situation? What was his financial situation previous to this alleged statement to Allen's number one fan? And so on...

I could ask you a million of those questions.

Why don't you tell me why Andre Previn no longer speaks to his adopted daughter Soon Yi?

Why don't you tell me why none of Mia's other many children are on speaking terms with Allen whom they considered to be a father or stepfather (depending)?

Why don't you tell me if you ever heard of a non-Muslim rapist or accused rapist you couldn't defend?
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
So let me get this straight, you don't actually want to read the background preferring instead to trust your instincts. Holy shit, I hope you never go for jury service as you'll have decided the case in the first ten minutes without any need to examine the evidence. I am sorry but any credibility you had, which wasn't much anyway, has just evaporated.
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No. More. USF. No. More.
 
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So, more irrelevancies, Dylan is the one who says she was abused and sexually assaulted. She is the one who is in question not her adopted half brother. What does his behavior have to do with what Allen did with Dylan? Show why any of the claims you have made are relevant or why they should even be considered. When you can do that I will pay one bit of attention to what is mostly misdirection.
 
Dantès said:
So, more irrelevancies, Dylan is the one who says she was abused and sexually assaulted. She is the one who is in question not her adopted half brother. What does his behavior have to do with what Allen did with Dylan? Show why any of the claims you have made are relevant or why they should even be considered. When you can do that I will pay one bit of attention to what is mostly misdirection.
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This sounds very similar to a recent case in England where a famous soap star was accused of child sex offences and acquitted. As regards Woody Allen, Dylan Farrow was examined at the time for evidence of sexual offences but the doctors found none, care to explain that?

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/sep/10/michael-le-vell-acquitted-child-abuse
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
This sounds very similar to a recent case in England where a famous soap star was accused of child sex offences and acquitted. As regards Woody Allen, Dylan Farrow was examined at the time for evidence of sexual offences but the doctors found none, care to explain that?

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/sep/10/michael-le-vell-acquitted-child-abuse
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Here you like links; try these:

http://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/01/an-open-letter-from-dylan-farrow/

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/02/o...dylan-farrows-story.html?hp&rref=opinion&_r=0

How would there be medical evidence of molestation, do you even know what molestation is?
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
What a load of twaddle, I can't be bothered talking to such an emotionally incontinent idiot like you. Why don't you tell me why Moses Farrow has decided to stop any contact with his mother and calls his sister's testimony brainwashing?
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It appears as if you were bothered into saying you couldn't be bothered. I guess that just represents more of your continuing confusion doesn't it?
 
This sickens me. I hate to think that Woody did it, because I love his neurosis, love his movies; but I couldn't read the letters, I usually side with the children.

I stopped watching his movies when this first came out. He has not been convicted of a crime, but I am sorry, he is tainted to me.
 
Celticguy said:
I thought what goes on in bedrooms was nobodys business ?
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Yes, the fondling and molestation of a seven year old by a 50 year old man is just another expression of freedom and "what goes on in bedrooms" and should be "nobody's business" because...freedom!
 
Woody Allen cannot be prosecuted on child molestation charges as the statute of limitations on accusations by Dylan Farrow has passed. The Connecticut prosecutor who investigated Allen more than 20 years ago in the case but did not file charges says it's now too late. The news comes as critics accuse Dylan Farrow of cynically timing her accusations to thwart her former adoptive father's chances of winning an Oscar for his critically acclaimed film Blue Jasmine.

Former Litchfield County state attorney Frank Maco said in a phone interview Sunday with The Associated Press that the statute of limitations on adopted daughter Dylan Farrow's accusations ran out at least 15 years ago.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-abuse-ruin-chances-Oscars.html#ixzz2sFmqeP8I
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
Woody Allen cannot be prosecuted on child molestation charges as the statute of limitations on accusations by Dylan Farrow has passed. The Connecticut prosecutor who investigated Allen more than 20 years ago in the case but did not file charges says it's now too late. The news comes as critics accuse Dylan Farrow of cynically timing her accusations to thwart her former adoptive father's chances of winning an Oscar for his critically acclaimed film Blue Jasmine.

Former Litchfield County state attorney Frank Maco said in a phone interview Sunday with The Associated Press that the statute of limitations on adopted daughter Dylan Farrow's accusations ran out at least 15 years ago.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-abuse-ruin-chances-Oscars.html#ixzz2sFmqeP8I
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More evidence that the woman who was molested as a child still harbors a great deal of hatred toward her molester. This activity has nothing to do with the law or the statute of limitations you gossip mongering washer woman and everything to do with the abuse of children something you will never know anything about but will defend to your dying day, because men should just be allowed to do what they want.
 
Dantès said:
More evidence that the woman who was molested as a child still harbors a great deal of hatred toward her molester. This activity has nothing to do with the law or the statute of limitations you gossip mongering washer woman and everything to do with the abuse of children something you will never know anything about but will defend to your dying day, because men should just be allowed to do what they want.
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I just the way that people like you love to defame and misrepresent what anyone you disagree with actually says. I, unlike you, believe in the rule of law, proper evidence and a fair trial. I especially do not believe in trial by media and baying mobs out for blood.
 
Like Celticguy now, a lot of people back then couldn't understand the distinction between sexual freedom and child abuse, and, as always, nothing can be more difficult than to decide between totally different accounts given by opposing people. Since most people can't recall the simplest incident this morning correctly, let alone emotionally charged stuff from way back, this is going to tend to be decided by existing attitudes rather than fact, but child abuse is so nasty that we have to be very, very careful about brushing aside such accusations. At the time there often ARE medical factors to examine, but as time goes by, as with mass murder in wars, memories get muddled. On the whole, I think, the person with the most money and power is likely to be most guilty, but how can outsiders begin to know?
 
iolo said:
Like Celticguy now, a lot of people back then couldn't understand the distinction between sexual freedom and child abuse, and, as always, nothing can be more difficult than to decide between totally different accounts given by opposing people. Since most people can't recall the simplest incident this morning correctly, let alone emotionally charged stuff from way back, this is going to tend to be decided by existing attitudes rather than fact, but child abuse is so nasty that we have to be very, very careful about brushing aside such accusations. At the time there often ARE medical factors to examine, but as time goes by, as with mass murder in wars, memories get muddled. On the whole, I think, the person with the most money and power is likely to be most guilty, but how can outsiders begin to know?
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You don't often make a lot of sense but I am inclined to agree with you here. As to who has the most money, I think you'll find that neither are exactly paupers. Mia Farrow and Woody Allen are both estimated to be worth around $60 million.
 
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