The working class is getting royally screwed.

Mina said:
Don't take this the wrong way, but since I've never seen you post even one intelligent thing here, I hope you'll understand why I'm not interested in a wild goose chase for some random phrase you think is important. If you want to share it, feel free. If not, don't.
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actually, he's repeatedly made you look foolish.
 
AssHatZombie said:
actually, he's repeatedly made you look foolish.
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No. As you're well aware, our "debate" has consisted of me making claims backed by wave after wave of data, while he replies with insults and insistence that his own impressions from personal experience are all that matter. That's why you'd only find the very stupidest of posters here thinking that he's come out ahead at any point.
 
Mina said:
No. As you're well aware, our "debate" has consisted of me making claims backed by wave after wave of data, while he replies with insults and insistence that his own impressions from personal experience are all that matter. That's why you'd only find the very stupidest of posters here thinking that he's come out ahead at any point.
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so you are denying that purchasing power has decreased. stupid.
 
American Man said:
It's no secret that CEOs are wealthier now than at any time in history. What is less known, however, is that the working class is poorer than it has been in generations.

Consider:

In 1974, my grandfather was a 20-something mechanic earning $6.25 per hour. It may not sound like a whole lot of money, but when you account for inflation, $6.25/hr in 1974 is equal to $36.65/hr in 2022.

American Man, regarding trade deficits:
I don't suppose USA's trade balance was negative in your grandfather's time? An annual trade deficit indicates the aggregate net expenditures of its nation's consumers, producers, and governments have exceeded the net value of the nation's entire annual production of goods and services.

Nation's balance of trade increased surplus nations and reduced trade deficit nations annual gross domestic products, (GDPs) more than otherwise. USA producing less goods and services, (i.e. reducing our GDP) is detrimental to our numbers of jobs, workers, their dependents, and to enterprises that are more sensitive to financial conditions of those great portions of our nation's population.

I'm among the proponents of the unilateral trade policy described within Wikipedia's "Import Certificates" article; Refer to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impor... are a proposed,Trade Restoration Act of 2006

Respectfully, Supposn
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Mina said:
About $35k. You?



What makes you think that? Be specific.



Yes, agreed, I do. That's because I don't rely on vague, gut-level impressions taken from the eccentricities of my personal experiences. Instead, I rely on data.



What you need to keep in mind is that I was raised by good and decent people who instilled a sense of honesty and fair-play in me. You were raised by a father who snuck into your bed at night to sodomize you, and a mother who told you to keep quiet about it. Thus, the people we later became.



You bet wrong.
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Reported for 12b

Looks like your goat is got pretty good when you're slinging shit like that around. ;)

I have no doubt your parents could have been decent and good, but they failed to discipline you for lying and slandering. Obviously.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Flash,

People don't always vote on facts or what is best for them. Many vote emotionally.

The less educated tend to fall for the emotional messaging of the Republican party while actually voting against their own better interest.

That is because the Democratic message is not as motivating as Republican dog-whistle messaging.

The reason that some Hispanics are breaking for Republicans is because they do not see themselves as Hispanics. They are rejecting that label and trying to 'fit in' with the rumor-driven poorly-informed hate-motivated Republican crowd.

Democrats have a stiffer challenge in messaging. They are backing promises of government programs that could produce more results if given a chance. Not very alluring.

Republicans have it easier. All they have to do is imagine new ways to spread hatred of government and institutions such as the news media. As soon as you get people to think the mainstream news is fake you can tell them lies and they will believe it.

Democratic messaging vs Republican messaging is a matter of dull boring facts vs imaginative misinformation that appeals to the hard working but poorly informed.

It's kind of hard to spend all day working hard and also put in enough time to become well informed. It's more fun to have a beer with the buds after work than it is to habitually listen to the real news such as PBS Newshour.

That kind of crowd tends to talk with co-workers and get their information from rumors and peer pressure. A good way to become misinformed.
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You have a lot of good points about Republicans but I think you miss the point on Democrats.

Both Democrats and Republicans tend to vote emotionally and messages are aimed at those emotions. One example of a Democratic message in your post is that the less educated do not vote in their own interests; yet, many of those people do not determine their own interest by government spending programs.

Many do not see themselves as Hispanics because they are not immigrants but have ancestors who were born in South Texas generations ago. And, they are relatively conservative on cultural issues. They think they can better determine what is in their own interests better than Democratic politicians.
 
Hello Flash,

Flash said:
You have a lot of good points about Republicans but I think you miss the point on Democrats.

Both Democrats and Republicans tend to vote emotionally and messages are aimed at those emotions. One example of a Democratic message in your post is that the less educated do not vote in their own interests; yet, many of those people do not determine their own interest by government spending programs.

Many do not see themselves as Hispanics because they are not immigrants but have ancestors who were born in South Texas generations ago. And, they are relatively conservative on cultural issues. They think they can better determine what is in their own interests better than Democratic politicians.
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And so they end up voting for the party of no gun restrictions at all, which ends up with a mass shooting of school children, not in their best interest.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Flash,



And so they end up voting for the party of no gun restrictions at all, which ends up with a mass shooting of school children, not in their best interest.
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1 idiot did bad with a gun so a tard like you says millions of people should be denied guns? No.

Fix the way leftist fucks are warping kids minds. That's a large part of the problem.

The other part is a worse Mental Health system than 100 years ago.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Flash,

And so they end up voting for the party of no gun restrictions at all, which ends up with a mass shooting of school children, not in their best interest.
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Gun restrictions is only one issue which is not the determining factor for their vote. Some states have a lot more gun restrictions and their votes are no different. It is often more of a rural-urban difference.
 
Hello Flash,

Flash said:
Gun restrictions is only one issue which is not the determining factor for their vote. Some states have a lot more gun restrictions and their votes are no different. It is often more of a rural-urban difference.
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National polling indicates a majority of Americans favor stronger background checks. A bill has passed the House but can't pass the Senate because Republicans are blocking it. If we simply vote the Republicans out then something can be done about these mass shootings.

Working people with children in school have an interest in reducing mass shootings to keep their children safe. Voting for Republicans is against that interest. The more of these shootings that occur, the more people make up their minds to stop supporting the Republicans who keep America violent.

The working class is getting royally screwed by the big money of the NRA and the Republican Party. Their children are in greater danger of being shot to death in their schools. It's stressful wondering if your kids are coming home after you send them off to school.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Flash,

National polling indicates a majority of Americans favor stronger background checks. A bill has passed the House but can't pass the Senate because Republicans are blocking it. If we simply vote the Republicans out then something can be done about these mass shootings.

Working people with children in school have an interest in reducing mass shootings to keep their children safe. Voting for Republicans is against that interest. The more of these shootings that occur, the more people make up their minds to stop supporting the Republicans who keep America violent.

The working class is getting royally screwed by the big money of the NRA and the Republican Party. Their children are in greater danger of being shot to death in their schools. It's stressful wondering if your kids are coming home after you send them off to school.
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Obviously the voters in many states do not agree with you and they are intelligent enough to decide what is in their own interest. U. S. Reps and Senators do not represent a majority of Americans or national polls but those in their own states and districts. You have to have faith in democracy even when it goes against what you think is right.
 
Hello Flash,

Flash said:
Obviously the voters in many states do not agree with you and they are intelligent enough to decide what is in their own interest. U. S. Reps and Senators do not represent a majority of Americans or national polls but those in their own states and districts. You have to have faith in democracy even when it goes against what you think is right.
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Faith in democracy is one thing. Faith in legalized corruption is another. The NRA owns the Republican party. It runs contrary to caring for the safety of children to vote for Republicans. That is a growing problem for the Republican party, which grows more relevant with every mass shooting.
 
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