There Is Simply Not Enough Revenue. The Deficit Is Too Large. Debt Is Out Of Control.

Sirthinksalot said:
Then let's cut spending.
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First, stop lying that tax cuts for the rich pay for themselves and trickledown to the working class.

Then, be honest and tell the voting public that your real intention is to gut or eliminate Medicare, Social Security, veterans benefits, food stamps, et al.
 
hvilleherb said:
Wasteful spending like entitlements.
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"Conservatives" have been very successful in branding something working people pay into all their working lives as "entitlements". They they tied "entitlements" to "them darkies are taking all your shit". Rather odd, since the time these MAGA folks want to go back to is the era of affirmative action for whites. GI Bill, FHA loans, tax rates of the mid 1950s; go look at what those were. It was a period of investment into american society that mostly enhanced the economic condition of whites alone.

"Entitlements" were fine with everyone then.

What you argue for is the continued societal wealth extraction, concentration, and redistribution to the Wall Street/donor/"job creator" class.
 
anonymoose said:
Cut out all the dead wood from the Army alone and that would reduce it by at least half.
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The Army is only one branch of the military.
Total military spending for all branches is $590 billion
In 2010 the Army was about 32% of total military budget.

Deficit is $841 billion.

Even if we eliminated the Army completely it wouldn't save half the deficit.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
The Army is only one branch of the military.
Total military spending for all branches is $590 billion
In 2010 the Army was about 32% of total military budget.

Deficit is $841 billion.

Even if we eliminated the Army completely it wouldn't save half the deficit.
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The Pentagon Can't Account for $21 Trillion (That's Not a Typo)
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-pentagon-cant-account-for-21-trillion/

Has Our Government Spent $21 Trillion Of Our Money Without Telling Us?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kotlik...of-our-money-without-telling-us/#7c2e4d8a7aef
 
Over 20% of the national debt is owned by the federal government. Over 10% is owned by the federal reserve that has to pay its profits to the federal government. As a result, a full third of the debt is an accounting allusion. 70% of the debt is held domestically, including that held by the government. It is held by insurance companies, retirement plans, college foundations, etc. We benefit from the debt domestically. The 30% held overseas is largely held by people who do it to generate dollars so they can have a steady supply to buy oil and trade with the US. There is no debt crisis.
 
Republicans always scream that government does not work

and then they get elected and prove it



the internets makes it much harder for their lies to stand
 
the funniest part of the right is the days they LONG for and want to go back too are the FDR days

The 1950s
 
Controlled Opposition said:
Yet you call others "conspiracy theorists."
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your shit ideas don't work and cause failure every time you idiots get control


our ideas have provably worked in the historic record idiot



you just lying about it doesn't work anymore shit bag


we have the internets now where everyone go look at the history
 
evince said:
your shit ideas don't work and cause failure every time you idiots get control


our ideas have provably worked in the historic record idiot



you just lying about it doesn't work anymore shit bag


we have the internets now where everyone go look at the history
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You are crazy, and Jimmy is next in line on the crazy train.
 
Hello Fentoine Lum,

Fentoine Lum said:
Take down the war machine of the empire, there's plenty of money. The Pentagon still cannot account for $21T it spent between 1998-2015, even after an "audit".

We chose this state of affairs by being compliant and quiet.
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Wow. That amount of unaccounted for spending would wipe out the debt, right there!

Imagine how low taxes could be if we didn't have to service the debt.
 
anonymoose said:
Ever work in a VA facility? I don't remember there being any bars in them.
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I had cancer 22 years ago...and no health insurance. The VA treated me...chemo and radiation. I'm still alive. I been treated for other things at the VA also.

Yeah...there are lazy people there...BUT THERE ARE LAZY PEOPLE AT EVERY HOSPITAL.

EVERY!

And there are dedicated nurses and doctors at the VA also.

Fact is, most VA doctors do not have you coming back time after time for no reason...as some non-VA doctors do. And many of the non-VA doctors do it only because it produces revenue...not because it is necessary.

So...I stand by my comment.

You are full of shit on what you said.
 
Anybody who is attacking the VA system as out of control or poor are idiots. They rate right up at the top. I have been going since Iraq I, and I have no grief with VA.
 
No, the Pentagon has not spent $21 Trillion they can't account for.

The military made adjustments to its budgetary reporting system that came to that amount.
https://media.defense.gov/2016/Jul/26/2001714261/-1/-1/1/DODIG-2016-113.pdf
Read page 5.

They made adjustments to journal vouchers. This is nothing more than an double entry accounting trick needed when the books don't balance because you haven't entered everything correctly.

They are guilty of sloppy bookkeeping but not of spending $21 Trillion they can't account for. Errors are sure to happen in a system that large with multiple people entering data.

Hint: Never rely on any news source if you can find the actual documents.
 
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