This is your RedNecklican Party. A party of hate, racism and violence

[AProudLefty]

Your grasp of economics is poor. Economics is a set of models, it is not history. You would have done well to take a class or two.

Eh? I specifically said history.

Communism is not economics, but rather is an anti-economics religion that hates the supply-demand curve and that denies human nature. Sure, religions have history.

Socialism is economics.

 

[StoneByStone]

It cannot be prevented.

Sure it can. Simply tax the rich at a much higher rate, like we used to, and use the money to fund social programs like UBI, affordable healthcare, and community gardens. The rich would still be rich, but they wouldn't be nearly as rich and powerful as they are now.

Nope. Society is always bigger and more powerful ... in the United States that is. In fascist countries you support, dictators become virtually omnipotent, and you applaud every step of the way.

#projection

You support Fascist wannabe dictators like Trump. I oppose any form of Authoritarianism.
I wouldn't vote for an Authoritarian like Trump even if he was in favor of free healthcare.

The "they" of whom you speak don't set the regulations. You are confusing people and groups of people egregiously, mostly because you are confused egregiously.

Before the term "Deep State" was used for the Unhinged Right's wacky conspiracy theories, the "Deep State" was used to refer to the 1% using their wealth to bribe.... I'm sorry, "fund" politicians in return for political favors.
The 1% gives politicians money in return for regulations that benefit them. This is why Republicans have always grown government more than Democrats, despite claiming to be the party of small government.

People who claim that fascism is far-right don't understand how much of anything works.

The Right has never been about small government. The Right has always been about having a strict hierarchical society. Knowing this helps to understand why conservative presidents create bigger government and the Right has opposed every movement to help create a level playing field.

 

[AProudLefty]

...

Perhaps this'll help you.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/economics/08/economic-thought.asp

 

[IBDaMann]

Actually, most political violence in America is right-wing.

Nope. Toss me some peanuts while you're over there.

Which makes sense, if you're aware of the origins of the Right.

You are babbling. The Left commits virtually 100% of the violence. Right extremists form TEA parties and discuss lowering taxes.

The Left does all the looting and zero discussing. Leftists on message boards like JPP hold all the intellectual cowards who are absolutely terrified of engaging in any discussion of ideas. As such, the VAST majority of Leftist posts are nothing more than petty personal attacks and flight from any differing viewpoints. The Leftists on this board gravitate to the "Ignore List" specifically because an "Ignore List" is available. Dishonesty and cowardice go hand in hand and the Left owns them both.

If you want to make a Leftist shit in utter panic just say "I disagree with you on one point."

In fact, I'd say the stats on left-wing violence exaggerate how violent the Left is.

... because you are in heavy denial. Your TDS should have made it clear to you that you suffer from extensive delusion disorder, which means that you have fixated on a particular world view and no amount of evidence to the contrary can convince you of the totally illusory nature of your view. Apparently, you can watch all the violence by BLM and ANTIFA and deny it all away from your mind.

That is your problem and no one else's.

Most studies consider Muslim Theocrats and Black Supremacists to be left-wing, which really makes no sense.

All fascists are left-wing, by definition.

 

[IBDaMann]

Sure it can. Simply tax the rich at a much higher rate, like we used to, and use the money to fund social programs like UBI, affordable healthcare, and community gardens.

That's the problem when mindless Leftists chime in without knowing anything about what they are speaking. Your solution is to punish those who add value by confiscating their reward for adding value and to reward those who do not add value by simply giving them the confiscated wealth. The only other thing in nature that operates according to this model is cancer ... and cancer always ends up dying. The only question is whether the host dies as well or whether the host can kill it first.

The rich would still be rich, but they wouldn't be nearly as rich and powerful as they are now.

Nope, for the same reason there are no more rich people in Venezuela who are not in the government or in some international criminal syndicate. Now, the most successful of Venezuelans are those who can extract food from the trash before starving to death. Your solution is bogus. There's a reason Marxist wealth redistribution has never worked. Ever.

You support Fascist wannabe dictators like Trump.

He's not a fascist. Your babbling is dismissed.

I oppose any form of Authoritarianism.

You oppose any authority, period. You oppose the rule of law. You denigrate those who uphold the law and praise those who make a mockery of it. You are prime ANTIFA material.

The 1% gives politicians money in return for regulations that benefit them.

Here you are demonizing an entire class of people and it makes you a bigot. You should not be proud of this.

This is why Republicans have always grown government more than Democrats,

False statement. Dismissed.

The Right has never been about small government.

Incorrect. The Right has always been about smaller/limited government and the Left has always been about bloating the government and getting it so drunk on power that it becomes one big Nancy Pelosi.

The problem is that politicians, both on the Right and on the Left, rarely have any intention to shrink the government and to limit government spending. Republicans/Conservatives have the same problems as Democrats/Leftists holding their elected officials accountable for undelivered promises. In the end, politicians just find it easier to take the country further into debt, give all politicians of the party in power something to give their constituents and let future generations fix any messes they make.

The Right has always been about having a strict hierarchical society.

Like everything else, you have this backwards. The Right leans libertarian and values individual freedom. The left wants lockdown and is willing to lie to its gullible base in order to frighten them into compliance. The Right seeks to preserve the 1st and 2nd Amendments whereas the Left would like nothing better than to get rid of them and immediately crush society under their thumb.

Knowing this helps to understand why conservative presidents create bigger government

Like everything else, you have this backwards. The Left is pushing the Green New Deal and other $Bajillion-Trillion programs. You have to add up a decade of Republican spending to match what the Democrats want to spend next week.

...and the Right has opposed every movement to help create a level playing field.

Trump brought record low unemployment to American blacks and hispanics. Nobody has done more to bring about a level playing field than Trump.

 

[StoneByStone]

Nope. Toss me some peanuts while you're over there.

You are babbling. The Left commits virtually 100% of the violence. Right extremists form TEA parties and discuss lowering taxes.

Do you trust studies and statistic or is that all Fake News?

The Left does all the looting and zero discussing. Leftists on message boards like JPP hold all the intellectual cowards who are absolutely terrified of engaging in any discussion of ideas. As such, the VAST majority of Leftist posts are nothing more than petty personal attacks and flight from any differing viewpoints. The Leftists on this board gravitate to the "Ignore List" specifically because an "Ignore List" is available. Dishonesty and cowardice go hand in hand and the Left owns them both.

Do you think you might be lying to yourself here?
The Trumpcucks here try to turn every discussion into a fight. And just look at their ban lists in threads. They refuse to accept dissenting opinions, and when they're hit with one, they just resort to insults.

But look, I don't care about that. If the Fashies want to ban me from a thread, who cares? What concerns me is Fascists banning free speech.

... because you are in heavy denial. Your TDS should have made it clear to you that you suffer from extensive delusion disorder, which means that you have fixated on a particular world view and no amount of evidence to the contrary can convince you of the totally illusory nature of your view. Apparently, you can watch all the violence by BLM and ANTIFA and deny it all away from your mind.

You ignored my point here because you know I'm right.
Extremism committed by Muslim Theocrats and Black Supremacists is erroneously considered left-wing. So really, the Left commits even less violence than the studies show.

 

[Into the Night]

The big difference is that the Extremists on the Right have become the norm. The leader of the Republicans is a literal Fascist who refuses to condemn his openly far-right supporters. The leader of the Democrats is a Moderate who has condemned Antifa.

Buzzword fallacies. Inversion fallacy. You are supporting the Democrat's attempt to implement fascism by oligarchy. Joe Biden has never condemned Antifa. He supports Antifa. He is bailing them out and giving them money.

 

[Into the Night]

I actually agree here. Crony Capitalism is simply Capitalism. When wealth is allowed to pool among a tiny minority of people, that minority gets too powerful and can then set the regulations. And of course, they don't set regulations to help their working-class competition, rather they create regulations that help themselves.

So yes, anyone who says things like "Capitalism isn't working because it's not real Capitalism, it's Crony Capitalism," just doesn't understand how Capitalism works.

Wealth is not closed. Capitalism creates wealth. Anyone can get rich if they are willing to provide something that people want. It is YOU that does not understand capitalism.

 

[Into the Night]

Actually, most political violence in America is right-wing. Which makes sense, if you're aware of the origins of the Right.
In fact, I'd say the stats on left-wing violence exaggerate how violent the Left is. Most studies consider Muslim Theocrats and Black Supremacists to be left-wing, which really makes no sense.



#projection

Inversion fallacy. It is the Democrats that are funding and supporting Antifa and BLM rioting. It is the Democrats that created the KKK. It is the Democrats that want to implement fascism by oligarchy.

 

[Into the Night]

Sure it can. Simply tax the rich at a much higher rate, like we used to, and use the money to fund social programs like UBI, affordable healthcare, and community gardens.

That is theft. Socialism is theft of wealth.

The rich would still be rich, but they wouldn't be nearly as rich and powerful as they are now.

You are condoning theft.

#projection

Inversion fallacy.

You support Fascist wannabe dictators like Trump.

Trump is not a dictator nor a fascist. Biden would like to be though.

I oppose any form of Authoritarianism.

No such thing. You are supporting fascism.

I wouldn't vote for an Authoritarian like Trump even if he was in favor of free healthcare.

Trump is not an authoritarian. There is no such thing. Buzzword fallacy.

Before the term "Deep State" was used for the Unhinged Right's wacky conspiracy theories, the "Deep State" was used to refer to the 1% using their wealth to bribe....I'm sorry, "fund" politicians in return for political favors.
The 1% gives politicians money in return for regulations that benefit them.

Never was.

This is why Republicans have always grown government more than Democrats,

They haven't.

despite claiming to be the party of small government.

They are.

The Right has never been about small government. The Right has always been about having a strict hierarchical society. Knowing this helps to understand why conservative presidents create bigger government and the Right has opposed every movement to help create a level playing field.

Lie. 'Leveling the playing field' is socialism. It is theft.

 

[Into the Night]

Do you trust studies and statistic or is that all Fake News?

You deny mathematics, including statistics.

Do you think you might be lying to yourself here?

Inversion fallacy. You are describing yourself.

The Trumpcucks here try to turn every discussion into a fight.

You again.

And just look at their ban lists in threads.

You again.

They refuse to accept dissenting opinions, and when they're hit with one, they just resort to insults.

You again.

But look, I don't care about that. If the Fashies want to ban me from a thread, who cares? What concerns me is Fascists banning free speech.

There is no such thing as free speech.

You ignored my point here because you know I'm right.

Assumption of victory fallacy.

Extremism committed by Muslim Theocrats and Black Supremacists is erroneously considered left-wing.

It is.

So really, the Left commits even less violence than the studies show.

Manufactured data. Argument from randU fallacy. Void reference fallacy.

 

[IBDaMann]

Do you trust studies and statistic or is that all Fake News?

Any yahoo can make a "study." The DNC pays $Millions to people to generate "studies" that reach their predetermined conclusions. Did you ever hear about Hillary's "opposition research" that involved a "pee tape" at the Moscow Ritz Carlton?

I dismiss "studies" pretty much on sight. I am happy to discuss tangible observations. I am happy to discuss statistical findings provided they follow all the standard rules ... which they never do when it comes to politics.

Do you think you might be lying to yourself here?

I'm Mr. Scientific Method. I question, I doubt and I don't accept anything at face value. What falsehood do you believe that I simply accepting?

The Trumpcucks here try to turn every discussion into a fight.

Instead of deflecting and changing the topic, accept some personal responsibility and discuss how you allow your TDS to avoid reality and to attempt to drag all discussions into your bizarre safe space where socialism is capitalism, fascism is somehow a Right thing, and Trump's mile-long list of accomplishments specifically making America great somehow doesn't exist. At present, it is not possible to hold a rational conversation with you about Donald Trump. It is not possible to hold a rational discussion with you about politics. It is not possible to hold a rational discussion with you about any form of Marxism. There is so much reality that you deny that no reality-based discussion is possible.

And just look at their ban lists in threads.

Ban lists are irrelevant. Any thread with a ban list should be created by someone else with the same title and the words "Open Thread" appended. Then everyone can participate in the same thread. gfm7175 is famous for doing this and ensuring everyone can participate.

They refuse to accept dissenting opinions,

Are you suggesting that it is the conservatives who rush to put people on "Ignore" at the very first hint of a differing viewpoint? I have BAD news for you. The Leftists are the absolute cowards. You aren't particularly brave yourself. When you are given a tough question you often resort to #CrypticAnswer.

What concerns me is Fascists banning free speech.

All of those are on the Left.

You ignored my point here because you know I'm right.

I don't recall ignoring any point and I don't recall you being correct on anything aside from there being no such thing as "Crony Capitalism."

Extremism committed by Muslim Theocrats and Black Supremacists is erroneously considered left-wing.

Nope. You ignored my explanation because it doesn't jive with that delusion you've got going. All fascism is Left-wing by definition.

So really, the Left commits even less violence than the studies show.

The Left commits ALL the Leftist violence broadcasted on TV and media channels, REGARDLESS of whatever might be claimed in any study.

 

[CFM]

If you're talking about the claims about the modern day capitalism, then yes I agree with you.

In your own words, describe "modern day capitalism".

 

[AProudLefty]

In your own words, describe "modern day capitalism".

Trumpism

 

[CFM]

Trumpism

That's not in your words.

What's wrong with modern day capitalism? I find that those having a problem with capitalism are the ones that realize they can't succeed within in.

 

[AProudLefty]

That's not in your words.

What's wrong with modern day capitalism? I find that those having a problem with capitalism are the ones that realize they can't succeed within in.

The problem is with corruption.

 

[CFM]

The problem is with corruption.

Detail what you consider corrupt.

Again, that sounds like the excuses often made from those that failed under capitalism. Always blaming someone else.

 

[AProudLefty]

Detail what you consider corrupt.

Trumpism

Again, that sounds like the excuses often made from those that failed under capitalism. Always blaming someone else.

I never failed.

And who are those people?

 

[Matt Dillon]

A guno sock thread. Tell us how you really feel, guno! Kill Whitey, amirite?

 

[Matt Dillon]

Trumpism



I never failed.

And who are those people?

Damn, I never realized you had teh TDS. It's a sad and debilitating disease.
Apparently it creeps throughout the brain, eventually turning the victim into a drooling moron.