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One fun tidbit that you might look at when comparing OSU and Alabama, is the list of schools with members of the USA Today Academic All Americans.

One school had 5 people make the list in the first 4 years it existed. Harvard, Yale, Princeton and other Ivy league schools had 4 people on any given year.

The University of Alabama had 5.


The UofA has a better graduation rate than OSU.

The Univ of Alabama football team has a graduation rate of 75%.

I found one year listed for OSU. The student athlete's had a graduation rate of 59% and the general student body has a graduation rate of 56%.



So I'm pretty sure that the Crimson Tide players have a far better chance of spelling most words than does the student body.
 
The last two times OSU went to the BCSCG inn 96 season we were undefeated in regular season play and We were one of only two 1 loss teams in Div IA last year (the other being Kansas)
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LOL... and you played top powerhouses like Toledo, Ohio U and the Fighting Illini, Kansas played Kansas St., Iowa and Iowa St., and we were playing Tennessee, Georgia, Florida, LSU and Auburn. If we had the conference schedule you have, we'd have a lot more National Championships than we do... which is more than you have, by the way.
 
Yep, its been a rough decade or so for the Tide. No doubt about that and no one is denying it.

You asked the "how many" questions?

How about.....

How many bowl appearances? 55 (the most of any NCAA football program)

How many conference championships? 26

How many QBs that took a team to the Super Bowl? 3 (the most of any NCAA football program)




Yeah, its been a rough decade or so, but I'll still take our record overall.

The SEC is over-rated? lmao No, its the toughest conference in college football.

And the thing about Saban is that he kept working his way up. Since he is now at a top college, he isn't going anywhere. He only left LSU because he thought the pros were a step up. He found out that he can't coach pros worth a damn. He isn't going back to the NFL. And when we are winning, Bama is the best place to be.
 
Have you ever watched a big game and said, "I wonder what that great running backs GPA is" ? NO
That shit is for teams that have nothing else to brag about and nothing else.
 
Dixie said:
LOL... and you played top powerhouses like Toledo, Ohio U and the Fighting Illini, Kansas played Kansas St., Iowa and Iowa St., and we were playing Tennessee, Georgia, Florida, LSU and Auburn. If we had the conference schedule you have, we'd have a lot more National Championships than we do... which is more than you have, by the way.
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Hey we don't make the rules. I'm all for a tournament. Bragging about mythical national championships is like bragging about having a hot date with the tooth fairy.
 
Solitary said:
Yep, its been a rough decade or so for the Tide. No doubt about that and no one is denying it.

You asked the "how many" questions?

How about.....

How many bowl appearances? 55 (the most of any NCAA football program)

How many conference championships? 26

How many QBs that took a team to the Super Bowl? 3 (the most of any NCAA football program)




Yeah, its been a rough decade or so, but I'll still take our record overall.

The SEC is over-rated? lmao No, its the toughest conference in college football.

And the thing about Saban is that he kept working his way up. Since he is now at a top college, he isn't going anywhere. He only left LSU because he thought the pros were a step up. He found out that he can't coach pros worth a damn. He isn't going back to the NFL. And when we are winning, Bama is the best place to be.
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How many NCAA violations?
 
Topspin said:
Have you ever watched a big game and said, "I wonder what that great running backs GPA is" ? NO
That shit is for teams that have nothing else to brag about and nothing else.
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You mean like Princeton and Yale? LOL

I have to admit for the four years I worked at OSU's engineering department, I never once met a student athlete. And OSU's graduation rate is not that hot but good god, OSU is almost 3 times the size of Alabama (Alabama enrollment 23,000 OSU enrollment 60,000), which means OSU graduates almost as many students each year as attend Alabama.
 
Mottleydude said:
You mean like Princeton and Yale? LOL

I have to admit for the four years I worked at OSU's engineering department, I never once met a student athlete. And OSU's graduation rate is not that hot but good god, OSU is almost 3 times the size of Alabama (Alabama enrollment 23,000 OSU enrollment 60,000), which means OSU graduates almost as many students each year as attend Alabama.
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So you think the philosophy should be "let more students in, because we won't graduate but a little over half"?

The graduation rate for the general student population is 56%. That means 44% of the students who enroll at OSU don't graduate. Whether you have 60,000 or 100,000 is not the point. If you can't teach the students you are failing as a school.

And, if I might remind you, you are the one who brought the intellect up.
 
Solitary said:
So you think the philosophy should be "let more students in, because we won't graduate but a little over half"?

The graduation rate for the general student population is 56%. That means 44% of the students who enroll at OSU don't graduate. Whether you have 60,000 or 100,000 is not the point. If you can't teach the students you are failing as a school.

And, if I might remind you, you are the one who brought the intellect up.
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Naaa you're comparing apples to oranges. Alabama can limit enrollment, so can Michigan. By law Ohio State has to take any student from the state that graduates from an accredited Ohio High School and who can pay the tuition. End result is since a massive numbers want to attend there they have a lot of flunk out classed the first two years.

So where it's probably harder to be admitted to Alabama, it's harder to stay in OSU.

So in general, as an undergraduate liberal arts school, Alabama probably does rate a bit higher. But OSU offers a larger variety of programs and some of them, such as IT, Graphic Design and Materials Engineering are either some of the best rated in the country or are not available at schools like Bama.

But the big differance between the two are the graduate programs. OSU's graduate programs blow Bama away. Our Law, Medicine, Dental, Optometry, Engineering and Business graduate schools are some of the best rated in the nation and those are bitches to get into.
 
Mottleydude said:
Naaa you're comparing apples to oranges. Alabama can limit enrollment, so can Michigan. By law Ohio State has to take any student from the state that graduates from an accredited Ohio High School and who can pay the tuition. End result is since a massive numbers want to attend there they have a lot of flunk out classed the first two years.

So where it's probably harder to be admitted to Alabama, it's harder to stay in OSU.

So in general, as an undergraduate liberal arts school, Alabama probably does rate a bit higher. But OSU offers a larger variety of programs and some of them, such as IT, Graphic Design and Materials Engineering are either some of the best rated in the country or are not available at schools like Bama.

But the big differance between the two are the graduate programs. OSU's graduate programs blow Bama away. Our Law, Medicine, Dental, Optometry, Engineering and Business graduate schools are some of the best rated in the nation and those are bitches to get into.
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Ok, so its apples to oranges.

But the football programs are apples to apples. And OSU has a graduation rate of 59% and The Tide has a graduation rate of 75%. Surely you are not saying that the football program has to take anyone who graduates from an accredited high school?
 
Solitary said:
Ok, so its apples to oranges.

But the football programs are apples to apples. And OSU has a graduation rate of 59% and The Tide has a graduation rate of 75%. Surely you are not saying that the football program has to take anyone who graduates from an accredited high school?
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Weeeeell......ya know....it depends on the position......a nose guard that's an academic all american probably won't be all that good. lol
 
Mottleydude said:
Weeeeell......ya know....it depends on the position......a nose guard that's an academic all american probably won't be all that good. lol
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I wasn't talking about academic all americans. I was just talking about graduating. You started all this discussion with your "can't read" comment. I am just exposing the ignorance of stereotypes.
 
Solitary said:
I wasn't talking about academic all americans. I was just talking about graduating. You started all this discussion with your "can't read" comment. I am just exposing the ignorance of stereotypes.
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Ok, Ok...you'll never agree with me about OSU football and I'll never agree with you about Bama......but we do have some common ground and there is at least one thing we can agree upon when it comes to college football...........

........MICHIGAN SUCKS!!!
 
Mottleydude said:
Ok, Ok...you'll never agree with me about OSU football and I'll never agree with you about Bama......but we do have some common ground and there is at least one thing we can agree upon when it comes to college football...........

........MICHIGAN SUCKS!!!
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LOL... I could see you and Solitary sitting on a sofa in front of the White House just then....
 
Ok, we can all hate michigan. How about we all hate auburn too?

And no whitehouse for me. I have a reputation to maintain.
 
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