Trump and other top conservatives rally to Putin's side as he threatens Ukraine

Fine, what about America? Don't forget to factor in the debt. By this point you should be realizing we have parallel economies running and GDP doesn't mean shit.

The discussion was about American satellites in the first place. Walt's just being a twit.
 
America has a per capita GDP of $60,200, that is five times higher. If we factor in the borrowing, we have MORE MONEY. We are able to borrow huge amounts of money to spend on things like satellites, at unbelievably low interest rates. Even before Putin invaded, Ukraine had trouble borrowing money, and now...



I do not think you realize what poverty, or corruption in other countries look like. It is so much worse than you think.

Contextomy fallacy. Pivot fallacy.
 
We have much more money than Ukraine, and by borrowing money, we get even more money. That is what borrowing does, gives you more money to spend. It has a flip side of having to service that debt, but at the time of borrowing, it is more money.

Picture both of us want to buy a car. You make $12k a year, and I make $60k a year. I can borrow another $120k, and you can borrow NOTHING. Which one of us is going to outbid the other?

Money is not wealth, dude.
 
You didn't understand what I was asking did you? The parallel thing should have tipped you off. "We" don't have more money than anyone in fact "we" don't have any money at all.

Money in America exists in the form of the fiat dollar, issued by the Federal Reserve under the authority(?) of Congress.
It also exists in the form of gold, silver, Bitcoin, and a few other currencies.

Money in the Ukraine exists in the form of the fiat hryvnia, issued by the central bank of the Ukraine, under the authority of the Ukrainian government.
It also exists in the form of gold, silver, Bitcoin, and a few other currencies.

Money is not wealth. It is only a means to trade wealth.

Your statement that Ukraine could send up a satellite is true. They have sufficient wealth to do it (at least until the war started). America, of course, also has sufficient wealth to do it (and America still does send up many satellites).
The difference is, of course, that the Ukraine never chose to use it's wealth in this way.

The conversation was about American satellites, not Ukrainian ones.
 
It's common knowledge that trolls linked to the Kremlin committed a mass-scale disinformation campaign during the 2016 US presidential election in order to ensure that Trump won.

And you believed every word from the debunked spy that told you this...didn't you?

Hillary torpedoed herself. The Wicked Witch of the East is done. Now we just have to get rid of the Wicked Witch of the West.
 
The American and Canadian government spend about as much on healthcare per capita as each other. The Americans get less than a third of Americans partially covered. The Canadians get 100% of Canadians 100% covered. Canada is not massively culturally different than America.

We really let ourselves down when it comes to social welfare spending.

Communism doesn't work. Canadians spend all that money on government healthcare and don't get healthcare.
 
Communism doesn't work. Canadians spend all that money on government healthcare and don't get healthcare.

The American government spends as much money as Canadians on health care (per capita), and two thirds of us get nothing. In other words, all Canadians have to get is something, and they get far more than we do. They definitely get something.
 
The American government spends as much money as Canadians on health care (per capita),
It doesn't spend money on health care.
and two thirds of us get nothing.
Health care is available to anyone.
In other words, all Canadians have to get is something, and they get far more than we do. They definitely get something.
The disaster of Canadian healthcare is well known. They DIE waiting in line for healthcare that they never get. There used to be quite a bit of traffic across the border to get healthcare in the States, at least until the borders closed.
 
It doesn't spend money on health care.

Health care is available to anyone.

The disaster of Canadian healthcare is well known. They DIE waiting in line for healthcare that they never get. There used to be quite a bit of traffic across the border to get healthcare in the States, at least until the borders closed.

You cobble your own beliefs together from right-wing lies. Canadians want no part of our medical system. They get serious medicine withjourt\t cost and immediately. They have waiting times for elective surgery. So do we.
Obamacare forced hospitals to take emergency drop-ins and make them stable. Then they could send them away. They did not have to follow up and provide long-term care. There are millions of Americans who live without healthcare. The walking sick are almost all poor people.
Polls in Canada show that Tommy Douglas is the most esteemed politician in Canadian history. He started their healthcare system.
You so assuredly type lies and disinformation.
 
You cobble your own beliefs together from right-wing lies.
You are describing yourself. Inversion fallacy.
Canadians want no part of our medical system.
Then why were they coming across the border to get it??
They get serious medicine withjourtt cost and immediately.
No. That's a lie.
They have waiting times for elective surgery.
No. That's also a lie.
So do we.
No. You can elective surgery pretty quick. You can get needed surgery even quicker.
Obamacare forced hospitals to take emergency drop-ins and make them stable.
No. They've done that for a long time before Obama.
Then they could send them away.
So? They are stable.
They did not have to follow up and provide long-term care.
None needed. They are stable.
There are millions of Americans who live without healthcare.
Healthcare is available to anyone.
The walking sick are almost all poor people.
Buzzword fallacy.
Polls in Canada show that Tommy Douglas is the most esteemed politician in Canadian history.
Polls are completely meaningless. Argument from randU fallacy.
He started their healthcare system.
So?
You so assuredly type lies and disinformation.
Circular argument fallacy. Denial of history. Denial of the costs of the Canadian healthcare system.
 
You cobble your own beliefs together from right-wing lies. Canadians want no part of our medical system. They get serious medicine withjourt\t cost and immediately. They have waiting times for elective surgery. So do we.
Obamacare forced hospitals to take emergency drop-ins and make them stable. Then they could send them away. They did not have to follow up and provide long-term care. There are millions of Americans who live without healthcare. The walking sick are almost all poor people.
Polls in Canada show that Tommy Douglas is the most esteemed politician in Canadian history. He started their healthcare system.
You so assuredly type lies and disinformation.

Around half of Canada gets medical care in the US, fucktard.

It's a little less than half, but right around that, for real.
 
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